Nissan execs diss FRS/BRZ

ElVee · 10-29-2013, 08:54 AM

Z is the car for a dad who's still single and avoiding finding out about his kids until they're well past 18.

(It's a common joke I make, so it kinda falls flat when you don't know me in person, but just go with it!)

Justice97 · 10-29-2013, 08:59 AM

going with it

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Originally Posted by ElVee

Z is the car for a dad who's still single and avoiding finding out about his kids until they're well past 18.

(It's a common joke I make, so it kinda falls flat when you don't know me in person, but just go with it!)

kenchan · 10-29-2013, 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by theDreamer

I would agree with this, but remember what generation is getting older now.
A lot of these people grew up with AE86 or Datsun 240z so for them a RWD Toyota 4 banger might be the "best" they can go for with midlife, because they never learned to save or generate any net worth to play with.

this is very true i thinks. a member from another forum found these stats and it was pretty interesting.

out of this bunch our 370z is the hardest car to keep for a dad with family cause he would need at least
another car to do daily tasks...given he is a responsible dad.

at least for me, it's not easy owning a Z and having 3 other cars to take care... while raising 2 kids. not enough time.

wackjum · 10-29-2013, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by kenchan

this is very true i thinks. a member from another forum found these stats and it was pretty interesting.

out of this bunch our 370z is the hardest car to keep for a dad with family cause he would need at least
another car to do daily tasks...given he is a responsible dad.

at least for me, it's not easy owning a Z and having 3 other cars to take care... while raising 2 kids. not enough time.

I wonder how much these stats are skewed by parents buying these cars for their kids. Especially the Mustang and Camaro. A survey of registrations wouldn't reveal who is actually driving these cars.

Chuck33079 · 10-29-2013, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by wackjum

I wonder how much these stats are skewed by parents buying these cars for their kids. Especially the Mustang and Camaro. A survey of registrations wouldn't reveal who is actually driving these cars.

That's a really good point.

Mt Tam I am · 10-29-2013, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by kenchan

this is very true i thinks. a member from another forum found these stats and it was pretty interesting.

out of this bunch our 370z is the hardest car to keep for a dad with family cause he would need at least
another car to do daily tasks...given he is a responsible dad.

at least for me, it's not easy owning a Z and having 3 other cars to take care... while raising 2 kids. not enough time.

RE: demographics:
Does this seem correct?

Our own site poll does not resemble a median age of 51 for the Z.

This implies 55% are baby boomers or older?

I'm not convinced.

Chuck33079 · 10-29-2013, 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Mt Tam I am

RE: demographics:
Does this seem correct?

Our own site poll does not resemble a median age of 51 for the Z.

This implies 55% are baby boomers or older?

I'm not convinced.

It's probably fairly accurate. Forums tend to skew toward the younger people.

Chuck33079 · 10-28-2013, 08:02 PM

The FRS/BRZ is either a slow car that's fun to drive fast, or an entry-level rwd for kids graduating from their Tcs. It's a rwd civic Si, not a midlife crisis car. I like them, I'm just not caught up in the hype. My GF is buying one early next year. It's the perfect "starter sports car".

kenchan · 10-28-2013, 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079

The FRS/BRZ is either a slow car that's fun to drive fast, or an entry-level rwd for kids graduating from their Tcs. It's a rwd civic Si, not a midlife crisis car. I like them, I'm just not caught up in the hype. My GF is buying one early next year. It's the perfect "starter sports car".

Yah like a glorified miata kinda?

Chuck33079 · 10-28-2013, 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by kenchan

Yah like a glorified miata kinda?

Kinda. It's the hypothetical middle ground between a Miata and S2000, except it's not a convertible.

damian_mb · 10-29-2013, 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079

The FRS/BRZ is either a slow car that's fun to drive fast, or an entry-level rwd for kids graduating from their Tcs. It's a rwd civic Si, not a midlife crisis car. I like them, I'm just not caught up in the hype. My GF is buying one early next year. It's the perfect "starter sports car".

My EXACT thoughts! Before I commited to my WRX, I test drove the BRZ. It was like getting back into my 4 door 2007 Si again, but without the "vtec" cross over, it's actually a 2 seater, RWD, handles a lot better, and is as torqueless as the Si.

Toyobaru

Chuck33079 · 10-29-2013, 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by damian_mb

My EXACT thoughts! Before I commited to my WRX, I test drove the BRZ. It was like getting back into my 4 door 2007 Si again, but without the "vtec" cross over, it's actually a 2 seater, RWD, handles a lot better, and is as torqueless as the Si.

Toyobaru

I look forward to buying my GF's after a few years when she wants more power. It's fun to drive and gets good gas mileage. It'll be a fantastic little daily driver. I'll happily buy one for $15k.

When you can get a thrashed one for $10k it'll be a fantastic track car.

Troyz · 10-29-2013, 12:13 PM

When Toyotabu comes out with the BRZ STI, it would be a game changer.

Subaru teases the future classic BRZ STI; what about the Scion FR-S? | Digital Trends

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079

The FRS/BRZ is either a slow car that's fun to drive fast, or an entry-level rwd for kids graduating from their Tcs. It's a rwd civic Si, not a midlife crisis car. I like them, I'm just not caught up in the hype. My GF is buying one early next year. It's the perfect "starter sports car".

MMC Racing · 10-29-2013, 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Troyz

When Toyotabu comes out with the BRZ STI, it would be a game changer.

Subaru teases the future classic BRZ STI; what about the Scion FR-S? | Digital Trends

They could sell the crap out of an STI in the mid-$30's will upper 200 horsepower and mid 200 torque.

Chuck33079 · 10-29-2013, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by MMC Racing

They could sell the crap out of an STI in the mid-$30's will upper 200 horsepower and mid 200 torque.

To enthusiasts for sure, but it's a bit of a harder sell to the general public who will look at the hp numbers and the price, and compare it to the pony cars.

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ElVee Track Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Iowa Posts: 750 Drives: 13 370z 7at t+s grey Rep Power: 17	Z is the car for a dad who's still single and avoiding finding out about his kids until they're well past 18. (It's a common joke I make, so it kinda falls flat when you don't know me in person, but just go with it!)