shop tells me i have frame damage!!

forza370z · 10-17-2013, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by kenchan

in fact, some shop that people recommended in my area did my alignment on my dd. i asked the tech (who also rang me up to pay which i though was odd) wat torque he used on the camber bolts. he said 'i gave a few zips, that's all that's needed.'

zips as in impact gun zip noise. i was like WTF

... so when i got home, i torqued the camber bolts. sure enough, not enough torque.

i never go to that place any more.

Coz he thought your alignment would be off in two weeks and you'd be back to pay him to give a few zips again.

But he didn't know he was dealing with Mr kenchan.

batboyvaj · 10-17-2013, 01:47 PM

why don't you try taking off your spacer while you are getting the alignment done. That way you can rule it out if the numbers come out the same.

kenchan · 10-17-2013, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by ZMan8

I haven't encountered any mechanics or alignment techc that use torque wrenches. All of them "give it a few zips"

that's wat the guy at the shop said to me as well. and my reply was, that's why i dont take my car to the dealer for service.

Quote:

Originally Posted by forza370z

Coz he thought your alignment would be off in two weeks and you'd be back to pay him to give a few zips again.

But he didn't know he was dealing with Mr kenchan.

i hate paying $ for a few zips. i can zip my own zip if i just needed a zip.

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Originally Posted by batboyvaj

why don't you try taking off your spacer while you are getting the alignment done. That way you can rule it out if the numbers come out the same.

that would make it too easy.

PersianLegacy · 10-17-2013, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by batboyvaj

why don't you try taking off your spacer while you are getting the alignment done. That way you can rule it out if the numbers come out the same.

i am ruling it out cause the right side is to spec. if the spacer would have caused the alignment issue it should be both side. but it was only my left rear that was out of wack.

kidkotic2001 · 10-17-2013, 02:18 PM

Just get a new car and try again.

seriously, go to a different Firestone or any other place and have them do the alignment again without the spacer on that side. I know that your other side is to spec but what if the spacer on the side that you are having issues is bent or has some type of defect.

That is what I would try if I was having this issue.

kenchan · 10-17-2013, 02:22 PM

here's wat i would do.

put car on ramps and take a flash light and inspect the rear for any damage.

if everything checks out, order up some camber bolts, install them (will need to boar out some metal, but you can find the DIY in the DIY section) and take it back for realignment.

if the car runs fine afterwards, just leave it.

Ghostvette · 10-17-2013, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by ZMan8

I haven't encountered any mechanics or alignment techc that use torque wrenches. All of them "give it a few zips"

Any 'mechanic' or 'alignment tech' that doesn't own and use a torque wrench is an f$%*#' douche. I've made tire techs loosen the lug nuts and hand torque them to the proper torque with a calibrated torque wrench. The tire shop I go to hates to see me coming because I'm anal about the torque on my wheels. I watched one 'mech' throw the torque wrench across the floor when he was done, I made him go get another wrench and retorque the lugs.

Troyz · 10-17-2013, 02:32 PM

I never had any issues with dealerships other than spending more and having to schedule things done way in advance. I had my previous sports cars lifted wrong few X's by the Tire shops. imho leave Tire shops are good for only 1 thing for 370z's:
Installing Tires and Rims

Nothing else...

I only go to Discount Tire too..

PersianLegacy · 10-17-2013, 03:19 PM

i really made a big mistake trying to save a few bucks by taking the car to firestone..

lesson learned. i will take the car to a performance shop and hope for best..

10-17-2013, 02:18 PM	#35 (permalink)
kidkotic2001 Track Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: El Paso, TX Posts: 541 Drives: Like Crazy Rep Power: 15	Just get a new car and try again. seriously, go to a different Firestone or any other place and have them do the alignment again without the spacer on that side. I know that your other side is to spec but what if the spacer on the side that you are having issues is bent or has some type of defect. That is what I would try if I was having this issue. __________________ ThAt WaS a CrAzY nIgHt Last edited by kidkotic2001; 10-17-2013 at 02:19 PM. Reason: incorrect spelling

10-17-2013, 02:32 PM	#38 (permalink)
Troyz Base Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Austin Posts: 154 Drives: 370Z Touring M6 Rep Power: 12	Dealership I never had any issues with dealerships other than spending more and having to schedule things done way in advance. I had my previous sports cars lifted wrong few X's by the Tire shops. imho leave Tire shops are good for only 1 thing for 370z's: Installing Tires and Rims Nothing else... I only go to Discount Tire too..

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10-17-2013, 01:47 PM	#32 (permalink)
batboyvaj Base Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: mn Posts: 111 Drives: 2011 370z Rep Power: 13	why don't you try taking off your spacer while you are getting the alignment done. That way you can rule it out if the numbers come out the same.

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kenchan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: N/A Posts: 76,801 Drives: N/A Rep Power: 141520	here's wat i would do. put car on ramps and take a flash light and inspect the rear for any damage. if everything checks out, order up some camber bolts, install them (will need to boar out some metal, but you can find the DIY in the DIY section) and take it back for realignment. if the car runs fine afterwards, just leave it.

10-17-2013, 03:19 PM	#39 (permalink)
PersianLegacy Base Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: NJ Posts: 121 Drives: 2010 370Z M6 Rep Power: 13	i really made a big mistake trying to save a few bucks by taking the car to firestone.. lesson learned. i will take the car to a performance shop and hope for best..