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Originally Posted by JoeD I don't understand why the Z is compared to the Cayman S. The Cayman S's base-price is exactly double that of the Z's. Why stop there?

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Old 08-18-2009, 08:52 AM   #16 (permalink)
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I don't understand why the Z is compared to the Cayman S. The Cayman S's base-price is exactly double that of the Z's. Why stop there? Why not just compare the 370Z to the GT3? At least their shape is somewhat similar.

I think a comparison to the base Cayman is more fitting, even though it starts out $20K more than the Z does. On top of that, we all know how fast a Porsche's MSRP will balloon once you start adding options. Check enough boxes, and a base Cayman can easily run north of $90k.

A comparison-test is only useful if both cars will be cross-shopped in the market. This is certainly not the case.
It's not that they are comparing the 370 to a Cayman S because it's similarly priced and both sports cars. It's that a HALF PRICE vehicle can perform NEARLY THE SAME as a double the price car. That's the grand feat. And bravo to Nissan for bringing such performance at a steal of a price.

Of course on the other hand, you could also pick up a 30k Evo9 (or 10) and with 2 grand into it, be competing against cars triple the price, right?
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Old 08-18-2009, 09:05 AM   #17 (permalink)
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IF.. they were sitting side by side and the price of each was the same... almost everyone here would buy the cayman S. wouldn't you?

so in the end it just comes down to money..

once upon a time someone who was into extremely high end hi-fidelity sound systems said something like.. 'you pay your last 50k to get that .5 percent (thats 1/2 of one percent) sound perfection'

and so it is with the porsche.. and for those that are a tier or two above porsche.. a ferrari..

its all about the benjamins in the end...
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Old 08-18-2009, 09:51 AM   #18 (permalink)
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Maybe true, but is "finesse" and "finishing touches" really worth the price of a SECOND 370z?????????!?!?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I've always thought german cars, especially porsche are insanely overpriced for what you get. I mean, performance wise, the cayman s even fully equipped is only marginally faster than the Z. If I had the money to buy a cayman s, I'd rather buy a 370 z as a summer/weekend car, AND a lancer evolution as a wintery/daily driver car, both of which are barely any slower than the cayman.

Well, yes. It is worth the price, if that is what you value. Obviously, since you value performance the most, you made a good buying decision if you bought a 370Z. It is a hugely good value for the performance it delivers. But, frankly, the 370Z driving experience is a bit brutish and heavy-handed compared to driving a Cayman/Boxster. I love it myself, but many people find that in day-to-day use, it wears them out to constantly have that level of intensity. One of the reasons the Porsche's succeed so well as high-end vehicles is their broad acceptability not only as performance vehicles but as all-around refined daily drivers.

When I bought my Z, I set out to buy a Cayman. Driving them back-to-back, I found the Z to be more fun. Not better, not faster, but more visceral. That's what floats my boat. I could (barely) afford the Cayman, but I chose the Z because it better fits what I want out a sports car. My wife, on the other hand, strongly preferred the Cayman.

In fact, many of the folks in the upscale area where I live buy Porsche's not to show off their wealth, but b/c they value that specific driving experience. Is it worth twice the price? Yes. For people who value that experience more than the daily intensity of a Z, it is a bargain at the price.
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drove both liked both,but nissan dealer is local,porsche is 150 miles away.
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Just go to www.planetporsche.net or any cayman forum search 370z and you will see that majority of what they all say is that the Z is a bargain for the performance and that they rather like nissan shooting at porsche cause it benefits them (benefits us also). They prefer there caymans of course but most dont bad mouth nissan or the Z at all.
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