The Z Traction

kidkotic2001 · 09-20-2013, 03:45 PM

I know exactly what you are talking about OP, I had that happen to me to, now everytime it rains I do not go over 55. The stock tires are not good in Rain.

Felix 808 · 09-20-2013, 03:55 PM

Not sure what this stuff you call rain is or why you'd want to drive in it, but those are pretty wide tires up front & can trap a lot of water. As Andrew said, got to slow it down. They are summer tires you know

RonRizz · 09-20-2013, 03:57 PM

Funny how people blame the tires / the weight of the car, ect.... If your tires break loose in the rain/on the gravel, ect You're driving too fast for the conditions, simple as that..
80 -85 mph after a rain on a wet road is too fast, I don't care what you're driving, or how much you paid for your tires. My $ .02

kenchan · 09-20-2013, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Bidness91

Well I have had my car for 4 months now and had 2 scary moments with it. I was wondering if I am the only person that experiences these issues. Or maybe they arent issues; i dont know.

Both times it had rained and its not like I was driving like a maniac or real aggressive. First time was on 45mph road going around 50-55mph and all the sudden my tires lose traction and i hydroplane two lanes to the right and then I catch traction and all is well. I chalk that up to maybe something in the road.

Next time I am on crosstown (basically toll road) and going 80-85mph tops when it had barely rained. The road was only two lanes wide with walls on both sides and my car decides to freak out. Driving in left lane and my back wheels hydroplane hard to the right, then hard to the left, right, left....till i skid to a stop inches from the wall. I don't even know if I counter steered it while it was happening because it all happened so quickly. All I remember is the steering wheel jerking each time it switched sides... I definitely counted my blessings because 99 times out of 100, I should have totaled it into that wall.

I did not have traction control off nor was I trying to change lanes or anything stupid. My previous car was 10' camaro so it weighed a lot more....so maybe the weight makes a huge difference??

nope, in my area never happened to me. i even tested the Z in a serious down pour to see its limits. no issues.

you do have to have some level of caution to drive a rwd car.

check tires. psi, tread wear, etc.

122554 · 09-20-2013, 04:09 PM

Love my Nitto Invo's in the rain!

mhcoss · 09-20-2013, 05:31 PM

stop using cruise control on inundated roads

Tigger · 09-20-2013, 07:19 PM

^^^ Yeah, never use cruise during a downpour. You need to be able to ease the throttle when needed.

Also, for the record, I drive a base/non-sport with stock 18" wheels and tires. I've hauled *** in the rain before and I thought this car drove better in the rain than any of my previous vehicles. Ever. Handled wonderfully and took the puddles with ease. I even had someone pull out in front of me during a heavy rain and the Z swerved right on around with ease. It did exactly what I wanted it to.

Point is, if you have a rwd car, learn to handle it in the rain. But if the computer/VDC starts doing funny things then there is no amount of driving skill that will save you.

cossie1600 · 09-21-2013, 01:05 AM

You can get more grip by driving faster, more downforce you know.....................just kidding

If you are dumb and stupid, you can always do this in an inch of rain

cossie1600 · 09-21-2013, 05:49 PM

I was wait listed for that event, can't go

Nismodean · 09-22-2013, 05:43 AM

Screw the stock tires, those things are death traps in the rain. I was merging onto a highway with traction control on, normal acceleration in rainy conditions and I just turned the wheel a bit to merge onto the highway and I hit a small puddle at the point of merging and did a 720. Thank God no one else was on the road that night.

These tires safely got me through Wyoming, Colorado, and the mountain range of New Mexico during a snow storm that was bad enough to shut I-70 down. I never once lost traction! They're great in the rain and have MUCH better dry handling/traction than the stock tires. Bad mounting or something else from other people I suspect as I have half the road noise or less than I did with the stock tires. CLICK HERE!

scope22 · 09-22-2013, 07:08 AM

off subject but why did you decide to go from 10 camaro to 370?

Nismodean · 09-22-2013, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by scope22

off subject but why did you decide to go from 10 camaro to 370?

Vehicle
Model year 2010
Make Chevrolet
Model Camaro
Style 2SS 2dr Coupe (6.2L 8cyl 6M)
Redline (rpm) 6,600
Horsepower (hp @ rpm) 426 @ 5,900 (REMEMBER @ FLYWHEEL, approx. 374 @ the wheel)
Torque (lb-ft @ rpm) 420 @ 4,600 (REMEMBER @ FLYWHEEL, approx 369 @ the wheel)
Transmission type Six-speed manual
Tire type Summer
Tire size, front P245/45ZR20 103Y
Tire size, rear P275/40ZR20 106Y

Dimensions & Capacities
Curb weight, mfr. claim (lbs.) 3,860
Curb weight, as tested (lbs.) 3,894 (vs ours @ 3245, they're 649 lbs heavier)

Track Test Results
0-45 mph (sec.) 3.4
0-60 mph (sec.) 5.1
0-75 mph (sec.) 6.8
1/4-mile (sec. @ mph) 13.1 @ 109.4
0-60 with 1 foot of rollout (sec.) 4.7
Braking, 30-0 mph (ft.) 27
60-0 mph (ft.) 111

SEARCH, AND THOU SHALL RECEIVE!

For non personal reasons the search provided above makes it obvious. With a driver that actually has something rattling in his/her nugget you shouldn't have a problem keep pace with the 2010/11/12/13 2SS Camaro. You can drive a heavy, boat sized dime a dozen car. Or you can drive a 370Z!

scope22 · 09-22-2013, 04:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nismodean

Vehicle
Model year 2010
Make Chevrolet
Model Camaro
Style 2SS 2dr Coupe (6.2L 8cyl 6M)
Redline (rpm) 6,600
Horsepower (hp @ rpm) 426 @ 5,900 (REMEMBER @ FLYWHEEL, approx. 374 @ the wheel)
Torque (lb-ft @ rpm) 420 @ 4,600 (REMEMBER @ FLYWHEEL, approx 369 @ the wheel)
Transmission type Six-speed manual
Tire type Summer
Tire size, front P245/45ZR20 103Y
Tire size, rear P275/40ZR20 106Y

Dimensions & Capacities
Curb weight, mfr. claim (lbs.) 3,860
Curb weight, as tested (lbs.) 3,894 (vs ours @ 3245, they're 649 lbs heavier)

Track Test Results
0-45 mph (sec.) 3.4
0-60 mph (sec.) 5.1
0-75 mph (sec.) 6.8
1/4-mile (sec. @ mph) 13.1 @ 109.4
0-60 with 1 foot of rollout (sec.) 4.7
Braking, 30-0 mph (ft.) 27
60-0 mph (ft.) 111

SEARCH, AN THOU SHALL RECEIVE!

For non personal reasons the search provided above makes it obvious. With a driver that actually has something rattling in his/her nugget you shouldn't have a problem keep pace with the 2010/11/12/13 2SS Camaro. You can drive a heavy, boat sized dime a dozen car. Or you can drive a 370Z!

ok, i hear you... i test drove 2010 camaro and decided to get a 370 in the end as well for similar reasons, i liked the extra hp but didn't like the boat feel and interrior sucks.

Bidness91 · 09-23-2013, 08:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scope22

off subject but why did you decide to go from 10 camaro to 370?

I had the v6 verision, it was a great car and had zero problems with it. but it needed new tires and i wanted import so instead of dropping $1400 i put it towards the Z.

The tires are the stock Potenza RE050A and they only have 16,000 on them. It is rainy part of the year, so I basically drive in rain every day here in florida. Havent had a scare but have drove like a 90yr old lady since the scare. Maybe I will put some new tires on it.

TreeSemdyZee · 09-23-2013, 06:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bidness91

I had the v6 verision, it was a great car and had zero problems with it. but it needed new tires and i wanted import so instead of dropping $1400 i put it towards the Z.

The tires are the stock Potenza RE050A and they only have 16,000 on them. It is rainy part of the year, so I basically drive in rain every day here in florida. Havent had a scare but have drove like a 90yr old lady since the scare. Maybe I will put some new tires on it.

With 16,000 on them, you've probably got about 10k more left. These tires don't last long at all. I always recommend buying a tire depth gauge.

09-20-2013, 03:45 PM	#1 (permalink)
kidkotic2001 Track Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: El Paso, TX Posts: 541 Drives: Like Crazy Rep Power: 17	I know exactly what you are talking about OP, I had that happen to me to, now everytime it rains I do not go over 55. The stock tires are not good in Rain. __________________ ThAt WaS a CrAzY nIgHt

09-20-2013, 03:55 PM	#2 (permalink)
Felix 808 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Camarillo, CA Posts: 1,063 Drives: 2011 PW/Grey T/S 7AT Rep Power: 2808	Not sure what this stuff you call rain is or why you'd want to drive in it, but those are pretty wide tires up front & can trap a lot of water. As Andrew said, got to slow it down. They are summer tires you know 03g35coupe6mt and DEpointfive0 like this. __________________ Semper Fi Μολὼν λαβέ

09-20-2013, 03:57 PM	#3 (permalink)
RonRizz A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Pine grove, Pa Posts: 2,136 Drives: 2 feet, 3 pedals Rep Power: 6776	Funny how people blame the tires / the weight of the car, ect.... If your tires break loose in the rain/on the gravel, ect You're driving too fast for the conditions, simple as that.. 80 -85 mph after a rain on a wet road is too fast, I don't care what you're driving, or how much you paid for your tires. My $ .02 SouthArk370Z and Felix 808 like this. __________________ P99rs Head Unit--- Amps- 2 Pioneer Prs800d --- Zapco ST1000MX---Zapco ST-4XSQ---- SI BM mk5 Subs---SI TM65v2 Midbass--- SI M3 mids--- SI M25 xbl2 tweeters ----- 2016 MECA street class 3rd place at world finals

09-20-2013, 04:09 PM	#5 (permalink)
122554 Track Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: My own world Posts: 506 Drives: 2010 Nismo Rep Power: 15	Love my Nitto Invo's in the rain! __________________ I don't normally drink beer, but when I do....i drink a lot!

09-20-2013, 05:31 PM	#6 (permalink)
mhcoss Track Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Edmonton Posts: 520 Drives: 2012 370Z SPORT M/T Rep Power: 16	stop using cruise control on inundated roads dts3 likes this.

09-20-2013, 07:19 PM	#7 (permalink)
Tigger A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: NM Posts: 8,063 Drives: Awedeeeeee Rep Power: 604	^^^ Yeah, never use cruise during a downpour. You need to be able to ease the throttle when needed. Also, for the record, I drive a base/non-sport with stock 18" wheels and tires. I've hauled *** in the rain before and I thought this car drove better in the rain than any of my previous vehicles. Ever. Handled wonderfully and took the puddles with ease. I even had someone pull out in front of me during a heavy rain and the Z swerved right on around with ease. It did exactly what I wanted it to. Point is, if you have a rwd car, learn to handle it in the rain. But if the computer/VDC starts doing funny things then there is no amount of driving skill that will save you. UNKNOWN_370 likes this.

09-21-2013, 01:05 AM	#8 (permalink)
cossie1600 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: californee way Posts: 5,380 Drives: 370, Leaf Rep Power: 31	You can get more grip by driving faster, more downforce you know.....................just kidding If you are dumb and stupid, you can always do this in an inch of rain

09-21-2013, 05:49 PM	#9 (permalink)
cossie1600 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: californee way Posts: 5,380 Drives: 370, Leaf Rep Power: 31	I was wait listed for that event, can't go

09-22-2013, 05:43 AM	#10 (permalink)
Nismodean Enthusiast Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Washington Posts: 313 Drives: 2009 RIP Now 2012 Rep Power: 16	Screw the stock tires, those things are death traps in the rain. I was merging onto a highway with traction control on, normal acceleration in rainy conditions and I just turned the wheel a bit to merge onto the highway and I hit a small puddle at the point of merging and did a 720. Thank God no one else was on the road that night. These tires safely got me through Wyoming, Colorado, and the mountain range of New Mexico during a snow storm that was bad enough to shut I-70 down. I never once lost traction! They're great in the rain and have MUCH better dry handling/traction than the stock tires. Bad mounting or something else from other people I suspect as I have half the road noise or less than I did with the stock tires. CLICK HERE! __________________ The Truth, it hurts sometimes. FI LTH & FI CF CBE. This is a 370Z forum, if I want to fling poo at another brand of car and your feelings get hurt, then you're hanging out in the wrong forum (cry elsewhere).

09-22-2013, 07:08 AM	#11 (permalink)
scope22 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Roswell, GA Posts: 1,179 Drives: wife crazy Rep Power: 57	off subject but why did you decide to go from 10 camaro to 370?

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