Z Broke Down :(

kannibul · 08-12-2009, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by FricFrac

Seriously isn't this the next thing you learn after you figure out how the gas cap comes off? I thought this was just automotive common sense to check your oil at least every other fill up. Why are people checking their oil for the first time after 2K?

That was common sense 30 years ago, when tolerances were measured in fractions of an inch, not fractions of a millimeter!

FricFrac · 08-12-2009, 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by kannibul

That was common sense 30 years ago, when tolerances were measured in fractions of an inch, not fractions of a millimeter!

Right because fractions of an inch are smaller/different than fractions of a milimeter? So a tolerance of 1/10th of a mm is better than 1/10000 of an inch? I know what you are trying to say but it didn't quite come out right....

Does it seriously hurt to check your oil frequently? You do realize this is a mechanical device that can from time to time fail. If you observe normal and not normal behaviour you can prevent sometimes catastrophic failure. A little time invested is worth the grief it can prevent you.

semtex · 08-13-2009, 07:26 AM

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Originally Posted by FricFrac

A little time invested is worth the grief it can prevent you.

Plus you can lick the oil off of the dipstick. The Omega-3's are good for you.

kannibul · 08-13-2009, 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by FricFrac

Does it seriously hurt to check your oil frequently?

Honestly, no, it doesn't - just it is a major disappointment if this is common to the VQ37VHR engine, and it's just now being made aware.

A lot of people (including myself), would have looked at a number of other vehicles had they known this one has these kinds of issues.

Some people on here say it's not a big deal - maybe it isn't to THEM...and I think those people are very, very few...

And to those who say "just sell it" - sure, and take what, a $10,000 loss - are you serious?

wstar · 08-13-2009, 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by kannibul

Honestly, no, it doesn't - just it is a major disappointment if this is common to the VQ37VHR engine, and it's just now being made aware.

A lot of people (including myself), would have looked at a number of other vehicles had they known this one has these kinds of issues.

Some people on here say it's not a big deal - maybe it isn't to THEM...and I think those people are very, very few...

And to those who say "just sell it" - sure, and take what, a $10,000 loss - are you serious?

I don't believe this engine has any issue with regard to oil consumption. All cars will consume oil at some rate, and high compression engines that are driven hard have a good chance of doing it more than others. I haven't seen any real evidence that our car has any abnormal problem with it though. On all cars, checking the oil level on a regular basis is just part and parcel of normal preventative maintenance. There's nothing wrong with the car in this respect.

FricFrac · 08-13-2009, 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by kannibul

Honestly, no, it doesn't - just it is a major disappointment if this is common to the VQ37VHR engine, and it's just now being made aware.

A lot of people (including myself), would have looked at a number of other vehicles had they known this one has these kinds of issues.

Some people on here say it's not a big deal - maybe it isn't to THEM...and I think those people are very, very few...

And to those who say "just sell it" - sure, and take what, a $10,000 loss - are you serious?

OK I'm trying to say this in a non-offensive way.... this is a high performance engine with a high compression ratio. All high compression engines are prone to burning some oil. A liter of oil every two tanks of gas is excessive but myself I've burnt a single liter in 6000KM and that is including break in. Someone mentioned the Corvette with a more than 500 miles/liter of oil being within the normal range. We are no where near that.

I just don't understand how a liter of oil every couple of months is an issue. Its super cheap to add a liter. Checking your oil every fill up is so minor as well - its not like we are saying check it every time you start the car. Its the most basic car maintainance. Checking your rear view mirrors isn't required either but I check mine all the time just so I know what's going on and what's changing then there are no surprises.

Oil consumption on the VQ engines would be very easy to inform yourself about before buying this vehicle - its not the Universe's fault that you didn't do your homework before you bought the vehicle. Its not new info and neither is the VQ37HR - its been out for years. Again no offense but the info is readily available....

kannibul · 08-13-2009, 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by FricFrac

OK I'm trying to say this in a non-offensive way.... this is a high performance engine with a high compression ratio. All high compression engines are prone to burning some oil. A liter of oil every two tanks of gas is excessive but myself I've burnt a single liter in 6000KM and that is including break in. Someone mentioned the Corvette with a more than 500 miles/liter of oil being within the normal range. We are no where near that.

I just don't understand how a liter of oil every couple of months is an issue. Its super cheap to add a liter. Checking your oil every fill up is so minor as well - its not like we are saying check it every time you start the car. Its the most basic car maintainance. Checking your rear view mirrors isn't required either but I check mine all the time just so I know what's going on and what's changing then there are no surprises.

Oil consumption on the VQ engines would be very easy to inform yourself about before buying this vehicle - its not the Universe's fault that you didn't do your homework before you bought the vehicle. Its not new info and neither is the VQ37HR - its been out for years. Again no offense but the info is readily available....

Readily available? Where?

FricFrac · 08-13-2009, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by kannibul

Readily available? Where?

Well for starters here is a five page thread on the topic.

If you need any help using the search function let me know....

earwicker7 · 08-13-2009, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by FricFrac

Checking your oil every fill up is so minor as well - its not like we are saying check it every time you start the car. Its the most basic car maintainance. Checking your rear view mirrors isn't required either but I check mine all the time just so I know what's going on and what's changing then there are no surprises.

And it's going, going, going... look, folks, he's hit it all the way out of the park!

After all, this is an auto enthusiast website, correct? As in enthusiastic about taking care of your car? Are there actually people out there who will spend hours adding bolt-on parts to get a few extra horses but can't be bothered to spend a few extra minutes a month to keep the engine running? What else are you guys not checking? Are you the people I see here in Los Angeles driving a Ferrari with half-inflated tires?

All I can say is that I don't want to see any of you who complain about checking your fluids later complaining that Nissan wouldn't fix your engine under warranty.

kannibul · 08-13-2009, 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by earwicker7

And it's going, going, going... look, folks, he's hit it all the way out of the park!

After all, this is an auto enthusiast website, correct? As in enthusiastic about taking care of your car? Are there actually people out there who will spend hours adding bolt-on parts to get a few extra horses but can't be bothered to spend a few extra minutes a month to keep the engine running? What else are you guys not checking? Are you the people I see here in Los Angeles driving a Ferrari with half-inflated tires?

All I can say is that I don't want to see any of you who complain about checking your fluids later complaining that Nissan wouldn't fix your engine under warranty.

I'm enthusiastic about driving and owning my car. Maintenance is just another hassle. I do however, look forward to getting my G3 intakes and putting those in, as well as when I ge the money rounded up for the HFC's and cat-back.

Until then, my car better not burn no oil!

6MT · 08-13-2009, 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by kannibul

I'm enthusiastic about driving and owning my car. Maintenance is just another hassle. I do however, look forward to getting my G3 intakes and putting those in, as well as when I ge the money rounded up for the HFC's and cat-back.

Until then, my car better not burn no oil!

I guess you almost need a chauffer (?)

(or someone to wipe your a$$)

semtex · 08-13-2009, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by kannibul

I'm enthusiastic about driving and owning my car. Maintenance is just another hassle.

Well, to be fair, maintenance is a hassle, sorta. But the way I look at it, it's a hassle in the same way that exercising is a hassle. I get up at 4am at least 4 days a week to go work out. Is it a hassle getting up that early? Yep, absolutely. But I do it anyway because I want to take care of my body, keep the blood pressure low, the muscularity high, etc. The same thing applies to car maintenance -- it may be a hassle, but I do it willingly because I want to keep my car running in peak condition. To me, that's part of what it means to be enthusiastic about owning my car, just like working out is part of what it means to be enthusiastic about being alive.

The thing is, after you get used to doing it, you actually start to enjoy it. Well, I do at least. I actually enjoy lifting weights early in the morning now, I look forward to it. Likewise, I actually enjoy doing regular car maintenance.

Just my

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