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Modshack 08-11-2009 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by FuszNissan (Post 146688)
??? At this point who knows, just wired that the computer didn't catch it in time. Oh well, time to start really messing with it.

Yeah...Unless there's a particular sensor to pick up on an impending failure, this would be completely invisible to the computer. This is often the case with purely mechanical failures, which this would seem to be..

Modshack 08-11-2009 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by zZSportZz (Post 146692)
Looks normal right?

You're fine. No worries..

FuszNissan 08-11-2009 11:38 AM

Chicken Little!!!!....just kidding

chris410 08-11-2009 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by kannibul (Post 146632)
Rear main seal would dump oil on the ground, not out the exhaust.

Gotcha...I thought it was "ON" vs "OUT" the exhaust. Hopefully, you'll find an answer to what caused this. Not only is this a major issue but a potentially dangerous one.

Hope all works out for you in the end!

kannibul 08-11-2009 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by zZSportZz (Post 146692)
Ok...so took the advice in this thread and check my oil lol....and this is what I found...

I did an oil change at 3700 miles to synthetic Redline.

Dipstick after change read as...

L o--------|------o H


Now at 6500 Miiles it reads...

L o--|------------o H



Seems normal to me....not sure how much the change in oil level (the two slashes) relates to in quarts but it doesn't seem like much. Looks normal right?

Edit: Fixed the spacing...had to add dashes...forum doesnt input spaces

Still indicates some burning of oil. More than I'd like, IMO.

zZSportZz 08-11-2009 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by kannibul (Post 146729)
Still indicates some burning of oil. More than I'd like, IMO.

Doesn't seem toooo bad for 3000k miles or so....could be worse I guess.

tstrick9 08-11-2009 11:58 AM

The posts about oil consumption sound high, do these motors use that much oil? I am used to seeing almost no oil loss in my vehicles.
On the bright side, at least the z isnt burning thru pistons like the 2008 WRX Sti did!
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Caravanshaka 08-11-2009 11:59 AM

well I might be using my lunch break to go check my oil level now, lol.

semtex 08-11-2009 12:04 PM

It just so happens that I checked my oil this morning (not as a result of this thread -- just decided to check it). 2000 miles since my last oil change, and I was able to top it off with just a third of a quart. No biggie, IMO. The oil level was about 3/5 to H. I almost just left it without topping it off. My '06 350Z went through 1 quart every 600 miles. Now THAT stupid thing had issues! (And yes, I am aware of the recall on that POS RevUp engine.)

Zeto 08-11-2009 12:11 PM

Man I hope this isn't a recurring problem.

kannibul 08-11-2009 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by zZSportZz (Post 146733)
Doesn't seem toooo bad for 3000k miles or so....could be worse I guess.

That's great for 3,000,000 miles! :happydance:

GMZ 08-11-2009 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Zeto (Post 146760)
Man I hope this isn't a recurring problem.

I bet thats what the Rev-Up guys thought :wtf2:

o0javi0o 08-11-2009 12:16 PM

All of this is happening to some of our members during the break in period? wow, this most be a sticky thread just for tutorial or reference purposes.
Also, if Fusz could provide a well chronological thread showing what happened instead of reading and looking allover this thread, it would be great. Also, the other member having this problems please write more because this could avoid some issues with other members.

Endgame 08-11-2009 12:18 PM

Time to have some fun with your engine Lou!!! Sorry it had to come about this way however.

I am used to checking oil, I DRIVE A ROTARY!! That will not be a big change for me.

Red370 08-11-2009 01:23 PM

So 3k seems to be the breaking point, I just hit 2, so basically I need to monitor my oil levels consistently until I change it out... gotcha!

Rick_370Z 08-11-2009 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by FuszNissan (Post 146573)
Winner Winner, Chicken Dinner!

Yep we pulled 1 quart. So we put in 5 /18 quart, let it idle for an 1 hour, and it burned 1/2 quart. So we drained the other 4 quarts and put a flashlight on it and it lit up like a christmas tree. So I may be getting new engine here. Might have to make some upgrades while the engine is out.

Still waiting to hear back from Nissan what the offical word is.... so till then

I was told the block holds 6 qts, mine was down 4, so 2 left. Nissan told me that after the cam sensor was replaced the engine testing shown no harm to the motor, but they could be telling stories here.

GL dealing with Nissan Consumer Affairs, most of em aren't to bright and it takes them 3 days to get back to you. Worst customer service in my opinion, but they did make a car payment while my car was in the shop for those 4 weeks.

My car seems to be running fine now, I did drop another 2 qts in last week, and I am up to 5k miles now. I'd like to get it on a dyno just to see where the power is at.......

Sorry about your issues, standby for some pain buddy......

RB

FuszNissan 08-11-2009 02:15 PM

Really nothing lead up to it. I was driving when I heard a noise like a tree branch being dragged under the engine bay and then the car slowed in speed and then the engine died. That's aobut it.

Rick_370Z 08-11-2009 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by FuszNissan (Post 146906)
Really nothing lead up to it. I was driving when I heard a noise like a tree branch being dragged under the engine bay and then the car slowed in speed and then the engine died. That's aobut it.


Yup, yup same with me. Turned down the stereo and opened the window to get a better listen, about 2 blocks later...RIP.


One of the reasons it took so long to get parts, coming from Japan and they won't put inifinity parts in the Z. You will basically need all the gasket and seals, cause they will have to pull the cam cover and such.

GL with the repairs.

semtex 08-11-2009 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Rick_370Z (Post 146884)
I was told the block holds 6 qts, mine was down 4, so 2 left. Nissan told me that after the cam sensor was replaced the engine testing shown no harm to the motor, but they could be telling stories here.

GL dealing with Nissan Consumer Affairs, most of em aren't to bright and it takes them 3 days to get back to you. Worst customer service in my opinion, but they did make a car payment while my car was in the shop for those 4 weeks.

My car seems to be running fine now, I did drop another 2 qts in last week, and I am up to 5k miles now. I'd like to get it on a dyno just to see where the power is at.......

Sorry about your issues, standby for some pain buddy......

RB

A dry engine holds 6 qts., but don't dump in 6 qts. for oil changes or you'll overfill it.

http://i618.photobucket.com/albums/t...09-41348PM.jpg

Diversion 08-11-2009 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Division (Post 146597)
I'd be really interested in knowing how intake/exhaust can account for 1/2 a quart of oil/hour burnt... That and the lack of a low oil light make me quite suspicious.

I'll be going back to checking my oil regularly now...

Ugh, I don't like your name. People think you're me, and i'm you now. Like earlier, I read something you said and I said to myself "What? I never said that crap!" Lol.

FuszNissan 08-11-2009 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Rick_370Z (Post 146884)
I was told the block holds 6 qts, mine was down 4, so 2 left. Nissan told me that after the cam sensor was replaced the engine testing shown no harm to the motor, but they could be telling stories here.

GL dealing with Nissan Consumer Affairs, most of em aren't to bright and it takes them 3 days to get back to you. Worst customer service in my opinion, but they did make a car payment while my car was in the shop for those 4 weeks.

My car seems to be running fine now, I did drop another 2 qts in last week, and I am up to 5k miles now. I'd like to get it on a dyno just to see where the power is at.......

Sorry about your issues, standby for some pain buddy......

RB

Well sadly it's a double edge sword for me. I have the engine approved already, which is great. But being a dealer they will put me last on the list due to not being looked at like a customer being out an engine. So who knows how long I will have to wait.

WShade 08-11-2009 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by FuszNissan (Post 147161)
Well sadly it's a double edge sword for me. I have the engine approved already, which is great. But being a dealer they will put me last on the list due to not being looked at like a customer being out an engine. So who knows how long I will have to wait.

That gives you the time to get your TT kit ordered and shipped.

alvinmathew88 08-11-2009 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by zZSportZz (Post 146733)
Doesn't seem toooo bad for 3000k miles or so....could be worse I guess.


lol. 3000k miles = 3,000,000 miles.

Daishi 08-11-2009 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Hi-TecDesigns (Post 145487)
And how! They're great cars riiiiight up to the breaking point... once the rear breaks, though, you may as well fold your hands behind your head and enjoy the ride. Years later I'm still picking dried grass out of hidden spots from a joyride I took down an flood embankment after a light rain. Counter-steered multiple times to keep it from going totally ***-round, but it pretty much goes where it wants to.

buddy of mine has an s2000 puts the thing sideways all the time countersteers and puts it right back where he wants it.. ive been in the car when hes done it. sooo yea. lol.

zZSportZz 08-11-2009 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by alvinmathew88 (Post 147230)
lol. 3000k miles = 3,000,000 miles.

I travel a lot.

FuszNissan 08-11-2009 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by WShade (Post 147173)
That gives you the time to get your TT kit ordered and shipped.

Got one in the works.

nicknick 08-11-2009 08:51 PM

This car should not use anywhere near that much oil. I love the Z but what the heck is going on? My car does not burn oil it just uses it to lubricate.

WooZ 08-12-2009 12:02 AM

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Originally Posted by nicknick (Post 147454)
This car should not use anywhere near that much oil. I love the Z but what the heck is going on? My car does not burn oil it just uses it to lubricate.

I agree, is this common in the 350Z/370Z? If so when I get my 370 I will definitely check the oil level. I currently drive a slow mo Toyota, but have never burned any oil in 4 years+.

Valentino 08-12-2009 12:51 AM

Sorry to hear what happened to you Lou(I just found this thread). From reading all the posts. do you and Rick have oil coolers?, do you think the cause of oil burning, is the high temp oil reaches in the engine? causes to damage oil seal's and other internal parts?

people who are having this issue. how often do you hit the rev limiter or close to the limit? hitting the rev or high revving causes oil to burn.

Do any of the forum member that have oil cooler have the same issue?

I'm going to keep my eye on my oil level from now on. and an oil cooler is on top of my list for this car. weather its the problem or not. seeing this high oil temp doesn't make me conformable.

P.S. if the solution was keeping the oil temp low by adding an oil cooler. and you already burring oil. adding an oil cooler won't help it to stop. coz the damage already happened.

Red370 08-12-2009 01:08 AM

I just checked the dipstick today, 2k miles, oil shows just under halfway between high and low, jesus christo these things burn oil!

nicknick 08-12-2009 01:23 AM

Bloody hell. high oil temps and now the car uses oil like no tomorrow, makes me start thinking towards spending my money elsewhere in the future. Love the car but if it has a blatant problem like this well......

OMGWTFBBQ 08-12-2009 01:53 AM

I just hit 3400 miles. I'm going to check my oil first thing tomorrow morning. :eek:

ZiGMoN 08-12-2009 02:05 AM

My first oil change was at 1500 miles, and I'm currently at about 4500 miles. Just checked the oil, and it took 2 quarts to bring the oil level back to within L and H on the dipstick. =(

DJcuetip 08-12-2009 03:12 AM

will nissan ever do some kind of recall on this issue? Or if it proves to be the oil temp issue, will they install oil coolers in the future? =(

Zeto 08-12-2009 06:26 AM

Dammit! I just checked my oil level and I'm also below the low mark. First thing thing I'm doing is getting a quart of Redline. I guess they 370 does burn oil as expected. I'm constantly at redline or close to it so that might have attributed to it.

kannibul 08-12-2009 08:01 AM

Are G37 owners having the same problem? If not, hmmm.....!

m4a1mustang 08-12-2009 08:02 AM

Well I just went and added about 3/8ths of a quart. This is about 1200 miles since my oil change. Will check later to see if it needs any more.

kannibul 08-12-2009 08:03 AM

I imagine all this oil getting burned will end up clogging the cats - especially the OEM cats =/

I can't believe that Nissan (or Infiniti) would consider this normal. Just think of it from the emissions point of view...

DIGItonium 08-12-2009 08:05 AM

You would think Nissan would've remedied this issue by now. What signs of oil consumption do you notice? How much residue do you see on the exhaust tips? Any blue smoke?

During break-in I saw some sticky residue on the exhaust, and it appeared to be normal since everyone else noticed the same.

m4a1mustang 08-12-2009 08:06 AM

I am going to keep an eye on my oil levels, checking at least once a week, to see if I have any significant oil burn issues. I have almost 8500 miles on mine now... I wonder if oil burn is no longer a serious concern after the engine has broken in fully?

Still interesting, though. My other cars never burned a drop of oil.


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