Fusz- very strange on what happened to you. Hopefully it's not major mechanically. The sound you heard doesn't sound good though.

Brazilbro- that comment was pretty messed up. I get my Z sideways once in a while too. It's fun to have a little fun sometimes.

I am curious as well - subscribed to thread. Hopefully nothing serious!

Sorry if it offended, but the street is really no place to be getting sideways. It puts you and others at risk and is hardly an indication of your manhood. When I was on the corvette forum, guys were always doing this, always blaming the car, and sometimes causing sgnificant damage to their cars and innocent bystanders cars. I'm all about car control and smoothness.. If you're not, and the "nannies" are turned on, unexpected things can happen. Usually to save your butt but sometimes surprising enough to get you into more trouble by over-reacting to their attemps to get you back in control. Guys who see their VDC kicking in all the time are not really very good drivers. Too many drift videos out there I guess..and too many stunt drivers on this forum...Sorry I took i out on you.

Hopefully Lou will know what's going on in the morning..

Hope the car is ok.

Is it Monday in the US yet? It's been Monday for hours here! ;)

hope u have a quick fix.no one likes breakdowns:shakes head:

Hopefully it's nothing serious.

Yeah, I hope so too, but it was a wierd noise.

Not to go off-track too badly, but, part of having a car like this one is pushing your limits, and until you find and/or break a limit, you'll never know what those limits are in case you have to rely on them.

That said, the times I get "stupid" with mine, are country roads in areas I travel a lot and have visibility and clear traffic - ie, the only person in "danger' is myself.

And, I've discovered this car acts like the rear end is a giant ball bearing ONCE it breaks loose - it REALLY breaks loose. Going straight is all good, but doing it while turning this car (for a powerslide, for example) it will zip the ***-end around faster than anything I've ever owned.

sounds like something that happened to me with a brand new eagle talon awd. timing belt skipped a few teeth after a few hundred miles. i drove it slowly to the dealer and right when i got to the entrance, the engine seized.

looks like I have someone to commiserate with! i've already replaced an engine on my car, solved repeated oil temp limp modes with dual-core oil coolers, and now am dealing with engine cut offs that result from fuel starvation... luckily for me, mine always starts back up after limp or fuel starv

lou, hope it is okay and look fwd to the diagnosis!

as for the other debate, not going to touch it other than to say if people want to drive aggressively on the street, not our job to police that... that's what police are for

Of course - that's what the ;P was for. ;P

Just giving him the "gears"....

Poor guy :( i hope the car doctors fix her up soon

Sorry, never saw the emoticon when replying... I'm so used to the smileys on forums these days the original emoticons kind of slip my view.


Lou, A virtual beer for you, my good man... sounds like you may need it.

Nothing a new engine and Twin Turbos can't fix...lol. It does suck though, love that car.

What time zone you in?

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You've never driven an S2000 before :icon18:

Nope, or anything that had more than 200HP, or something with a "locking" rear-end...

Either way, I think I'm done jacking with that. 2 times is enough.

And how! They're great cars riiiiight up to the breaking point... once the rear breaks, though, you may as well fold your hands behind your head and enjoy the ride. Years later I'm still picking dried grass out of hidden spots from a joyride I took down an flood embankment after a light rain. Counter-steered multiple times to keep it from going totally ***-round, but it pretty much goes where it wants to.

Lol - I'm old school. I turn off the slick smilies on the forums that let you do that or use ones that don't translate to an icon....

As for the rear end on this car being a ball bearing I figured it was the opposite. Of course if you keep the wheels spining its gonna keep coming around - don't know of any car that doesn't. I found the car really hooks up quickly when you get off the throttle.... kinds the opposite of a ball bearing....

Yeah...My experience is you really have to work hard to get this car to break loose. What with the 140 treadwear tires, LSD etc it sticks very well...
The only car to really lose it in our Aqua-X last weekend was an AWD Audi....;) (and NO, I didn't knock down all those cones..:-))

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Maybe I'm just too hard on the throttle w/ cornering trying to get it to get loose. It takes a lot to get it loose IMO, and once it gets loose, it's "very" loose - I mean, it doesn't re-grab as well as I expect.

Either way, I'm not going to bother trying to figure it out...

Lou, any updates?

+1, sorry to get thread off track...:icon14:

Ditto!

Well, threw a bunch of codes, haven't figured out why it won't start yet. Probably won't find anything out until tomorrow.
First codes was a crank sensor, we replaced it with a new one and it still won't start. They have been online and on the phone with Nissan all day, so I don't think we will know until tomorrow. I am afraid it may be the timing chain

Dang. Was looking forward to an update today!! I'm curious as HECK...as to what happened....


Hope its something simple.

Timing chain? I've thrown one of those before, caused air to pump *out* the intake.

Very easy test...

Also, Aren't these destructive engines?

Hmmmm...... I want to know too. 8+ years ago, the only non-destructive engine was the Toyota. I should probably Google the Z.:icon14:

Ouch. I was just thinking (reading the first post) that it was timing chain. If nothing internal is messed up and no valves are bent, they should be able to bring her to top dead center, put on the new chain and you should be good to go. But they may pull the motor all together and put in a new one just because it'd be a pain to pull the motor apart to check the internals.

When a chain or belt breaks at speed on an interference engine it's usually sayonara.

Heads and valves at a minimum, often pistons needed too..In a warranty scenario I'd guess they'd just replace the engine..

Let's hope it's not that dramatic!

I have not heard of any other engine failures with the 370, has anybody lost one?

damn so sorry to hear, hope its not serious... but hearing this is scary!

I think TravisB lost one but it was an installer (oil cooler) issue I believe..

Yikes. Let's hope it's an easy fix but sounds like it that isn't the case. :(

That's the term I was wanting...

I imagine at any RPM an interference engine won't be salvagable...at best like you said, a piston or two and a couple valves. At worst, new pistons and new heads.

Man that sucks! I have an ECU tune with a higher rev limit. I hope the chain can handle the high revs.
Have you tried a compression test? No compression usually indicates valves not opening or blows pistons. It's a simple check.
Hope everything works out for you.

I'd be very concerned if the timing chain broke on a new car even if they replace the engine under warranty. Chains are put in so that there is never any need for servicing (as with a belt).

Also, the only non-interference Toyota engines are the ones without Variable Valve Timing (which come on most older Toyota's and the newer non-performance engines).

correct... bad connections on oil cooler... $9K later, all is good

Check the oil level. My car with only 3k miles ate 4 qts of oil and the cam position sensor failed from lack of oil. If the sensor fails the ECU thinks the cams are out of phase. Took Nissan 4 weeks to figure this out and get replacement parts for my car.....


just my story, hope its not the same problem to yours

RB

interesting rick... what were the symptoms ? check engine light ? any performance related symptoms once the ecu figured out not enough oil ?