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mag_black 08-14-2013 09:22 PM

I'm a nice driver; I only get aggressive when there is some ******* driving around and cutting people off, then I hit A-Mode and give them a taste of their on medicine.

critical 08-15-2013 02:49 AM

every time I'm nice and let a car in they're the worst driver ever. i drive like 2mph in parking lots, but on the street i like to be first

Haboob 08-15-2013 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by NismoZ70 (Post 2446099)
I've been in LA area for the last few days for work and I seriously don't understand bikers here in being able to drive between cars wherever they go. That's not the case in IL. I've seen plenty of crazed bikers driving around, cutting people off, weaving in and out of traffic and narrowly getting between cars while going well above the speed limit on the highway. I know its legal here in CA to drive between cars like that and apparently its even a question on the written exam but it just seems crazy. It was a madhouse yesterday on the 10 heading into LA with these idiots. Is there a high rate of biker accidents in CA? I don't see how there wouldn't be with people like this and people changing lanes without seeing a biker. It's definitely a different aspect in driving then what we have in the Chicago area.

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Originally Posted by luigi90210 (Post 2446145)
Bike accidents are definitely lower in Cali when compared to the rest of the US but I guess because its legal here, bikers don't feel the need to be asshats about lane splitting as opposed to other bikers in other states.

We do have our fair share of squids though who weave in and out of traffic.
EDIT: looks like you're talking about the squids XD

Most of the bikers I know don't do that since its legal.

Also its legal because it makes sense, bikes are at a higher risk when sitting in traffic as opposed to cars and it helps with traffic decongestion. Just think about it, that's one less vehicle in front of you.

I don't really think it helps with congestion. They already get free passes in the HOV lane. Lane splitting does nothing but startle drivers and cause potentially more accidents, or damage to cars.

I almost ran one over, because I was startled by this loud bike flying between cars.

Usually I'll hug the line on the drivers side to prevent any of that when I'm in Cali.

It's the most retarded "legal" thing there.

Mt Tam I am 08-15-2013 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by NismoZ70 (Post 2446099)
I've been in LA area for the last few days for work and I seriously don't understand bikers here in being able to drive between cars wherever they go. That's not the case in IL. I've seen plenty of crazed bikers driving around, cutting people off, weaving in and out of traffic and narrowly getting between cars while going well above the speed limit on the highway. I know its legal here in CA to drive between cars like that and apparently its even a question on the written exam but it just seems crazy. It was a madhouse yesterday on the 10 heading into LA with these idiots. Is there a high rate of biker accidents in CA? I don't see how there wouldn't be with people like this and people changing lanes without seeing a biker. It's definitely a different aspect in driving then what we have in the Chicago area.

I do not know statistics. In the summer time I hear the fire engine 2-3 times each Saturday and Sunday, usually from bikes. Anybody riding a bike, on a tight mountain road (with cars) for longevity, may need to rethink their exercise area.

I was once a volunteer fire fighter here, and I speak from experience, it is usually a bike falling down hard or tangling with a car.

ElVee 08-15-2013 10:27 AM

I will say, I give extra leeway to motorcyclists. I respect their choice to get out of the cage. And yes, some people think motorcyclists are asshats with how they ride (and some are!), but quite often they ride like they do for their own protection. I.e. lane splitting in Cali, faster accel off lights when they're in front, etc. Too many idiot car drivers out there. I'd rather not be one of them, and I give motorcycles plenty of space and courtesy. It's somewhat empathetic, as I'd appreciate the same being given to me when I ride.

Pedestrians and bicyclists I also don't mess with.

For the latter two, I don't want to make a mistake or mistake in judgement or even give the chance of a vehicular manslaughter/assault being slapped on my record. As the driver of the larger, more dangerous vehicle, I do have extra responsibility to not wield it as a weapon, either as a feigned or actual threat. If pedestrians or bicyclists are doing something bad, I'll honk at them, maybe yell out my window what the problem is, and move on.

Lord knows, bicyclists are at least more active and healthier than I. Who am I to criticize? :)

Oh, and I flash and allow 18-wheelers into lanes on the freeway when they want to, because, well, they're friggin' bigger than me and can kill me if they make a mistake. And it's satisfying to get a thank you flash of the running lights. :)

kenchan 08-15-2013 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by ElVee (Post 2447135)
I will say, I give extra leeway to motorcyclists. I respect their choice to get out of the cage. And yes, some people think motorcyclists are asshats with how they ride (and some are!), but quite often they ride like they do for their own protection. I.e. lane splitting in Cali, faster accel off lights when they're in front, etc. Too many idiot car drivers out there. I'd rather not be one of them, and I give motorcycles plenty of space and courtesy. It's somewhat empathetic, as I'd appreciate the same being given to me when I ride.

Pedestrians and bicyclists I also don't mess with.

For the latter two, I don't want to make a mistake or mistake in judgement or even give the chance of a vehicular manslaughter/assault being slapped on my record. As the driver of the larger, more dangerous vehicle, I do have extra responsibility to not wield it as a weapon, either as a feigned or actual threat. If pedestrians or bicyclists are doing something bad, I'll honk at them, maybe yell out my window what the problem is, and move on.

Lord knows, bicyclists are at least more active and healthier than I. Who am I to criticize? :)

Oh, and I flash and allow 18-wheelers into lanes on the freeway when they want to, because, well, they're friggin' bigger than me and can kill me if they make a mistake. And it's satisfying to get a thank you flash of the running lights. :)

youareaverypassivetype...

DarkJak 08-15-2013 10:35 AM

I don't think I've ever let an 18-wheeler make the lane change on the highway without first zipping by. From my experience they always overtake each other at what feels like a 1 mph speed differential.

I do however always let someone merge if they have their blinkers on. There aren't too many 370Z's around Knoxville and I'm the only blue one, so I try to be as polite as I can when I'm driving around. Of course, there's always gonna be some pedestrian who tries to wave me down for speeding from the other side of the road even though I'm usually within 5 mph of the limit.

ElVee 08-15-2013 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 2447143)
youareaverypassivetype...

LOL! That and I drive in the midwest. There are aggressive drivers here, but it's nothing like a real urban tangle.

But yes, I am pretty passive, but only because I see little reason to be a **** on the road. I have a sporty car that is rare, usually have my windows open, a vanity plate, etc. I'd hate to piss off the wrong person who has less to lose than I who ends up seeing my car elsewhere and getting revenge. I don't want to be one of those keyed car threads on here. :)

I pretty much just give the **** treatment to those who do it first.

ElVee 08-15-2013 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by DarkJak (Post 2447159)
I do however always let someone merge if they have their blinkers on.

The usage or lack thereof is a huge pet peeve of mine. You want to merge without signaling? Damn straight I'm going to make it as close a shave as possible, if not even just ignore you. Have your light on and look like you want in but are hesitant or not trying to get as far up as you can before bullying into the lane? I'll let you in/through.

I also try not to judge people on their cars as much as I can. Not everyone has the luxury to have a decent car that is in great shape. I don't want to enburden their life or rub their nose in my car more than I passively do. :(

kenchan 08-15-2013 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by ElVee (Post 2447169)
LOL! That and I drive in the midwest. There are aggressive drivers here, but it's nothing like a real urban tangle.

But yes, I am pretty passive, but only because I see little reason to be a **** on the road. I have a sporty car that is rare, usually have my windows open, a vanity plate, etc. I'd hate to piss off the wrong person who has less to lose than I who ends up seeing my car elsewhere and getting revenge. I don't want to be one of those keyed car threads on here. :)

I pretty much just give the **** treatment to those who do it first.



aka...morematuretype... :tup:

critical 08-15-2013 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by NissanGuy23 (Post 2445883)
This weekend the bikers (pedal bikes) were really pissing me off. I was driving on some backroads for fun on Sunday, and the roads arnt that wide, without bikers, it can be tight getting the Z through when there is an SUV coming the other way. When you ad bikers, its flat out dangerous. You need to pass them quick before you get into a head on, and you cant see who's coming because of all the turns. And many times, the bikers are in the middle of the lane (not off to the right) and don't get over to the right when i come up on them, like they own the road. It was really starting to irritate me. They act like they own the road and I'm in their way.

I can't stand bicyclists! Always breaking the law and riding side by side, or running lights, and just being reckless with their lives and my car's well being.

Magic Bus 08-15-2013 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by NissanGuy23 (Post 2445883)
This weekend the bikers (pedal bikes) were really pissing me off. I was driving on some backroads for fun on Sunday, and the roads arnt that wide, without bikers, it can be tight getting the Z through when there is an SUV coming the other way. When you ad bikers, its flat out dangerous. You need to pass them quick before you get into a head on, and you cant see who's coming because of all the turns. And many times, the bikers are in the middle of the lane (not off to the right) and don't get over to the right when i come up on them, like they own the road. It was really starting to irritate me. They act like they own the road and I'm in their way.

I'm not a cyclist and I don't know about PA (I'm going to venture it's the same), but in Hawaii the cyclist has the right to ride in the middle of the lane in the right lane and if making a left turn can ride in the middle of the left lane to make the left turn.

Most people including cyclist, don't realize that this is the law here. Thus I see a lot of cyclist almost get killed for riding far on the right and the car squeezing past them in the same lane pushing them even further to the curb. If the cyclist falls and gets hurt because of this, the driver of the automobile is at fault and can be convicted for manslaughter or worse yet murder 2 if the driver was witnessed harassing the cyclist.

Be patient, use your blinker and wait for a good opportunity to pass. Think of it like following a slow truck, everyone is entitled to the road, not just cars. :tiphat:

kenchan 08-15-2013 04:03 PM

does hawaii not like the usa any more? dont want to be part of america?

Zteve 08-15-2013 04:06 PM

only bicyclists i have respect for are the Soldier Ride group. would gladly make room for them anytime

Soldier Ride - Wounded Warrior Project

Magic Bus 08-15-2013 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 2447618)
does hawaii not like the usa any more? dont want to be part of america?

:icon17: Guess that's why we're known as the Aloha State. But in Hawaii, majority of motorist don't respect bicycle riders. Exactly why I don't ride a bike.


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