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FPenvy 07-23-2013 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by cossie1600 (Post 2414564)
I don't want to say too much except I had to be towed to the gas station again. This is my third tow related to fuel starvation. I had about 6 or 7 dots on my gauge, but apparently that isn't enough for street driving. So do yourself a favor, keep the tank fill or prepare to get stranded or run over by trucks at the on ramp.

i dont understand these complaints. i've got 26k miles on my Z and i drive hard. not once have i ever had a fuel starvation problem. pretty sure you just got a defective fuel pump or something. dont blame the car.

Mitco39 07-23-2013 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by synolimit (Post 2415187)
Well there you go! How many primes? And with time the tube probable let fuel drip back over, fill up the right side, you did enough primes, and bingo.

Still a major design flaw and will be no fun racing.


I sat there for a couple minutes with the pump on. Turned it on and off probably 3 or 4 times. The only thing that you got to be careful of is that you dont overheat the pump running it to long without fuel.

USMCASA 07-23-2013 12:20 PM

i've taken this curve at damn near 50 with 1-3 dots no issues... sounds like something is failing on your car...
https://maps.google.com/maps?q=garne...olina&t=m&z=17

Mitco39 07-23-2013 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by USMCASA (Post 2415223)
i've taken this curve at damn near 50 with 1-3 dots no issues... sounds like something is failing on your car...


The curve I did was pretty much the same, only at about 80mph. :) Its the only time its happened to me.

ElVee 07-23-2013 12:52 PM

It's never happened to me, so I deny there is any issue! *stern flat hand swiping motion*

DEpointfive0 07-23-2013 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by MB_Z (Post 2414897)
With out looking i thinks it's just above a quarter tank there's 19 -20 dots I believe got bored in traffic and counted one day

16, 16 dots

synolimit 07-23-2013 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by USMCASA (Post 2415223)
i've taken this curve at damn near 50 with 1-3 dots no issues... sounds like something is failing on your car...
https://maps.google.com/maps?q=garne...olina&t=m&z=17

Looking at that though doesn't seem as big as what some tracks have though. Plus the track has better cars, faster speeds, and pulling more G's.

DEpointfive0 07-23-2013 01:34 PM

I still think OPs fuel pump is dying as well

USMCASA 07-23-2013 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by synolimit (Post 2415351)
Looking at that though doesn't seem as big as what some tracks have though. Plus the track has better cars, faster speeds, and pulling more G's.

its pretty tight, decreasing radius and decreasing in elevation. fun as hell in the Z and on my bike scraping knee :driving:

FPenvy 07-23-2013 01:41 PM

all this talk of track turns and whatnot......when a group of guys and i did the dragon and those backroads at speeds most likely unsafe ones and never had one fuel issue. those tight turns and small roads are probably just as hard if not worse on the car than the track lol

Haboob 07-23-2013 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 2415367)
all this talk of track turns and whatnot......when a group of guys and i did the dragon and those backroads at speeds most likely unsafe ones and never had one fuel issue. those tight turns and small roads are probably just as hard if not worse on the car than the track lol

What are you talking about?


You don't do turns. You just drag race 1/4mi at a time. :gtfo2:






:icon17:

synolimit 07-23-2013 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by USMCASA (Post 2415361)
its pretty tight, decreasing radius and decreasing in elevation. fun as hell in the Z and on my bike scraping knee :driving:

I think a longer radius still. I mean the carousel at my track I hold 110 on my bike for a minute. Big deference here.

USMCASA 07-23-2013 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 2415367)
all this talk of track turns and whatnot......when a group of guys and i did the dragon and those backroads at speeds most likely unsafe ones and never had one fuel issue. those tight turns and small roads are probably just as hard if not worse on the car than the track lol

+1 for dragon. good times. check out the snake as well 421 The Snake - 33 Miles, 489 Curves, 3 Mountains, and 1 Valley

synolimit 07-23-2013 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 2415367)
all this talk of track turns and whatnot......when a group of guys and i did the dragon and those backroads at speeds most likely unsafe ones and never had one fuel issue. those tight turns and small roads are probably just as hard if not worse on the car than the track lol

I disagree! I don't think any of you really no what a carousel or key hole feels like and how long, hard and what G's you pull. The dragon is a joke to what I'm talking about. No S you didn't have problems on them.

FPenvy 07-23-2013 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Haboob (Post 2415375)
What are you talking about?


You don't do turns. You just drag race 1/4mi at a time. :gtfo2:


:icon17:

come to the dragon next year for zdayz and you'll learn what turnS are lol :stirthepot:

Haboob 07-23-2013 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 2415383)
come to the dragon next year for zdayz and you'll learn what turnS are lol :stirthepot:

If I do, I'll have to drive your car, I'm not driving mine that far (too expensive).

FPenvy 07-23-2013 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by USMCASA (Post 2415378)
+1 for dragon. good times. check out the snake as well 421 The Snake - 33 Miles, 489 Curves, 3 Mountains, and 1 Valley

very nice. that looks like a good drive too

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Originally Posted by synolimit (Post 2415382)
I disagree! I don't think any of you really no what a carousel or key hole feels like and how long, hard and what G's you pull. The dragon is a joke to what I'm talking about. No S you didn't have problems on them.

i dont think anyone who enjoys driving could really say the dragon is a joke? thats a great road and awesome to drive. yea it's no track but ask any real racer and they'll tell you.....wait sorry my inner vin took over :ugh2: :bowrofl:

anyways sooooo you wanna show me this key hole of yours :yum:

FPenvy 07-23-2013 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Haboob (Post 2415389)
If I do, I'll have to drive your car, I'm not driving mine that far (too expensive).

you can ride in my car lol thats about it :bowrofl:

synolimit 07-23-2013 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 2415391)
i dont think anyone who enjoys driving could really say the dragon is a joke? thats a great road and awesome to drive. yea it's no track but ask any real racer and they'll tell you.....wait sorry my inner vin took over :ugh2: :bowrofl:

anyways sooooo you wanna show me this key hole of yours :yum:

Omg dude I'm talking about the turns, not your happy factor in your pants. You need G's plan and simple to fuel starve. The dragon has no turns like a track, period.

Here I can hold about 80-85 top right, not that much G's, no idea of fuel starve.

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e1...psd858fa9f.jpg

Here I can hold 110-115, much more G's, much easier time to starve.

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FPenvy 07-23-2013 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by synolimit (Post 2415404)
Omg dude I'm talking about the turns, not your happy factor in your pants. You need G's plan and simple to fuel starve. The dragon has no turns like a track, period.

Here I can hold about 80-85, not that much G's, no idea of fuel starve.
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Here I can hold 110-115, much more G's, much easier time to starve.
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haha geez someone doesnt like jokes. i set that all up for a fast and furious joke. dont pop a blood vessel :tiphat:

you may just have a bad fuel pump or something if you had fuel starve at low G's. i'd say look into it.

as for the dragon if you take it on at speed then i think it becomes quite like a track but probably harder than most. might not be as fast but the turns come much faster and some are really tight. plus you only have 1 lane to use not a whole width of a track......oh yea and cops. difficulty seems to fall in favor of the dragon here lol :tiphat: 11 miles - 318 turns. how many does your track have :bowrofl:

carlitos_370z 07-23-2013 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 2415383)
come to the dragon next year for zdayz and you'll learn what turnS are lol :stirthepot:

I want to go!!!!:tup: mmmmmm Im in Puerto Rico :shakes head:

FPenvy 07-23-2013 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by carlitos_370z (Post 2415452)
I want to go!!!!:tup: mmmmmm Im in Puerto Rico :shakes head:

go for it man. :tup:

carlitos_370z 07-23-2013 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 2415468)
go for it man. :tup:

here are some great turns... I have to pass every day to go home lol!!!:tup:

but the dragon thing sounds awesome!

synolimit 07-23-2013 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 2415430)
haha geez someone doesnt like jokes. i set that all up for a fast and furious joke. dont pop a blood vessel :tiphat:

you may just have a bad fuel pump or something if you had fuel starve at low G's. i'd say look into it.

as for the dragon if you take it on at speed then i think it becomes quite like a track but probably harder than most. might not be as fast but the turns come much faster and some are really tight. plus you only have 1 lane to use not a whole width of a track......oh yea and cops. difficulty seems to fall in favor of the dragon here lol :tiphat: 11 miles - 318 turns. how many does your track have :bowrofl:

I give up. You just don't understand the difference of a turn, the G's you pull, the duration needed in that turn etc to empty and dry out the purge container.

FPenvy 07-23-2013 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by synolimit (Post 2415536)
I give up. You just don't understand the difference of a turn, the G's you pull, the duration needed in that turn etc to empty and dry out the purge container.

oh no i do just enjoying your angry for a moment. now i'm done lol i couldnt resist.

:tiphat:

kenchan 07-23-2013 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 2415367)
all this talk of track turns and whatnot......when a group of guys and i did the dragon and those backroads at speeds most likely unsafe ones and never had one fuel issue. those tight turns and small roads are probably just as hard if not worse on the car than the track lol

but you're going right and left quickly so fuel just splashes over the hump to the right saddle while making a quick left, probably. :confused:

how about slowing down on public roads? no need to be going 85mph on an entrance ramp. if you're having issues on a road course, wasn't there some vendor here that has a cure for this issue?

Drex 07-23-2013 07:09 PM

i wonder if getting stickier tires contributes to this? how many that have had this problem are still on the stock re050s vs better tires?

Mike 07-23-2013 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 2415367)
all this talk of track turns and whatnot......when a group of guys and i did the dragon and those backroads at speeds most likely unsafe ones and never had one fuel issue. those tight turns and small roads are probably just as hard if not worse on the car than the track lol

and you won't get it on the dragon. Coming out of a turn there, you can't be on the throttle long enough to get it. Its definitely real and his fuel pump isn't failing.

I got it at 15/16ths of a tank at Road America coming out of the super long carousel at 105mph. Its a design flaw, pure and simple. It takes a prolonged full throttle acceleration coming out of a turn. My student was getting it at VIR this weekend at nearing the end of 25 minute sessions after a full fill up each time.

I don't get it anymore, but I have phunk's redesigned fuel system.

kenchan 07-23-2013 09:23 PM

http://www.the370z.com/track-autocro...p-install.html by rusty

cossie1600 07-23-2013 09:49 PM

I can't believe all the problems this car is having at 25K miles. I had it towed last night from fuel starvation. The transmission bearings are whining so hard that I have to push the clutch in at the drive thru to not hear it. There is also the transmission grinding 2nd gear almost every other shift. The build quality is pathetic. As much as I love this vehicle, I might have to start looking for a new ride sooner or later.

I briefly considered leasing a Leaf, but f Nissan and their products

MB_Z 07-23-2013 10:07 PM

Every one doing 50 on a sweeping right off ramp type situation probally would never had a problem, but that's not really pushing the car at all not even close.

Like Mitco I was maintaining a speed of 80-85 through 3 right handed off ramps in a row ( 3 leafs of the clover) would of been 4 until the exit of the 3rd when I put my foot down on the gas and just slowed down.

You need huge force to the left side for a well maintained period of time no other way of fuel starve happening

Red__Zed 07-23-2013 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 2415430)
haha geez someone doesnt like jokes. i set that all up for a fast and furious joke. dont pop a blood vessel :tiphat:

you may just have a bad fuel pump or something if you had fuel starve at low G's. i'd say look into it.

as for the dragon if you take it on at speed then i think it becomes quite like a track but probably harder than most. might not be as fast but the turns come much faster and some are really tight. plus you only have 1 lane to use not a whole width of a track......oh yea and cops. difficulty seems to fall in favor of the dragon here lol :tiphat: 11 miles - 318 turns. how many does your track have :bowrofl:

The dragon is more like a mild autoX course than a road course.


You'll see fuel starve on the turns you can gas out of, and a good bit on hellbender if you push it (but you're really getting into the "dumb" region at that point)

Z_ealot 07-23-2013 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by MB_Z (Post 2416044)
Every one doing 50 on a sweeping right off ramp type situation probally would never had a problem, but that's not really pushing the car at all not even close.

Like Mitco I was maintaining a speed of 80-85 through 3 right handed off ramps in a row ( 3 leafs of the clover) would of been 4 until the exit of the 3rd when I put my foot down on the gas and just slowed down.

You need huge force to the left side for a well maintained period of time no other way of fuel starve happening

so in other words you need to be doing at least double the speed limit of most on/off ramps in order to run into fuel starve a.k.a breaking the law :bowrofl:

cossie1600 07-24-2013 12:19 AM

On the second time I got towed, I was doing 25-30mph around the turn with one hand on my cell phone. Take a look at the fuel tank and the design of the fuel pump, you will know why.

I definitely wasn't going faster than highway speed because I had hit the gas to merge with the truckers going about 70mph. The car just hesitated and died.

Mr&Mrs 07-24-2013 04:34 AM

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Originally Posted by MB_Z (Post 2416044)
You need huge force to the left side for a well maintained period of time no other way of fuel starve happening

This is not exactly true. (See Example Below) I think a lot of factors play into how/when this can happen. I have also had it happen enough now that I can feel when im pushing the corner to hard in relation to my fuel level.

http://i850.photobucket.com/albums/a...pscaa00b67.png

This is a fuel starve corner for me at anything below half a tank. It is a short corner but has a nice bank to it that allows you to come in pretty hot. The lines are not exact but you get the idea. Yellow section is maintaining/rolling on throttle, Green section is WOT, Red section you guessed it, fuel starve.

This next example is how you describe it and has effected me at 3/4 of a tank once.

http://i850.photobucket.com/albums/a...ps8f1f835a.png

Color chart is the same as above. This turn is obviously much longer and has a much higher exit speed than the first corner. If you notice though in both scenarios I have not been effected until being WOT in the exit of the corner.

Again im boosted and require more fuel so maybe it hits me sooner?

4r3s 07-24-2013 07:05 AM

Okay, fine, the gas tank design has a flaw. Everyone is well aware of it. Why do you all continue to push it when you know its going to cause you grief? You're supposed to learn from your mistakes and correct your actions in life to avoid having the issue again. This is basic life advice people...

I guess its more fun to sit on the side of the road waiting for a tow truck? I don't get it.

DEpointfive0 07-24-2013 07:07 AM

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Originally Posted by 4r3s (Post 2416371)
Okay, fine, the gas tank design has a flaw. Everyone is well aware of it. Why do you all continue to push it when you know its going to cause you grief? You're supposed to learn from your mistakes and correct your actions in life to avoid having the issue again. This is basic life advice people...

I guess its more fun to sit on the side of the road waiting for a tow truck? I don't get it.

LMFAO!!! :icon18::bowrofl::inoutroflpuke:
:owned:

edub370 07-24-2013 08:22 AM

Drove till 1 dot this morning and the gas gauge read "---"


like a boss...

Haboob 07-24-2013 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by 4r3s (Post 2416371)
Okay, fine, the gas tank design has a flaw. Everyone is well aware of it. Why do you all continue to push it when you know its going to cause you grief? You're supposed to learn from your mistakes and correct your actions in life to avoid having the issue again. This is basic life advice people...

I guess its more fun to sit on the side of the road waiting for a tow truck? I don't get it.

History has this problem of repeating itself. :shakes head:

DEpointfive0 07-24-2013 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by edub370 (Post 2416479)
Drove till 1 dot this morning and the gas gauge read "---"


like a boss...

I filled 19.2 gallons... I win


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