Should i trade for a Z?

UNKNOWN_370 · 05-09-2013, 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by SuperMiguel

I'll go try one today, but i know it will feel faster (butt trick) :P But def have to think about it... On the genesis world im one of the fastest, in fact here in tampa there just another guy that may hit 400whp (still at the shop), also i get a good amount with the gen, believe or not at least once a day i get asked "What kind of car is that?"

If i get another Z ill be just another Z around nothing special (at the beginning at least :P)

decisions decisions

btw this is my car build: SuperMiguel's Build Thread - Genesis Forum: GenCoupe Hyundai Genesis Forums

Nice gen

UNKNOWN_370 · 05-09-2013, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by JungleZ

I guarantee you will disappointed with this rough course 3.7 engine and crappy manual box. Don't be a Dumbass like me and get into the car based on looks and a weak test drive.

If you want to hit the canyons and stuff sure a z is great with just springs sways and tires but for a street car with power many many better options.

with one thing. No one can be as much as a dumb azzz as you... In that fact

But as for everything else he wrote... You might want to read his thread history before holding this opinion with any validity.

GSS138 · 05-09-2013, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by JARblue

Wow... you don't get past 28 mph in your daily commute? That's when Nissan recommends you shift to 5th gear

I find myself in 6th on neighborhood roads now that I realize I'm supposed to shift into 6th at 33 mph

See the shifting at 2300 RPM troll thread.

ElVee · 05-09-2013, 04:08 PM

A Z will definitely be the looker in that group, moreso than the Genesis.

Not to poke the big elephant in the room too hard, but I would definitely think twice and three times about getting a new car just because you want to fit in with the work crowd. Standing out might be nice: Mr. youthful with his go-fast car and less debt....etc.

Who knows, just throwing some non-performance thoughts out there!

XiP · 05-09-2013, 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by SuperMiguel

So i currently have a 2.0t Genesis coupe, with a gtx28 turbo on it, making about 400whp, 330 wtorque... But im a bit bored of the car, I been looking at the 370z for few days but not sure....

How much or what mods will it take to put it, in that 400whp range?

Also any of you guys have made this transition from a gen coupe to a 370z and have any opinion?

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Originally Posted by SuperMiguel

No bored, its just where i work at every one drives MB, BMW, expensive cars then every time we go to a clients im the one driving the loud *** Hyundai :P i think driving loud 370z may fix that (just thinking out loud)

So you're saying you want something with the same amount of power that you're currently getting on your Genesis but needs to look more refined?

If so then don't think the 370z fits your needs because you'll need to go FI to put out numbers like that. 370z is definitely a looker but for business purposes and visiting/impressing clients you might want a luxury car like a G37 (you'd have to boost the G37 to get those numbers too) or maybe an IS-F if it fits your budget.

dcnj610 · 05-09-2013, 05:32 PM

I currently drive an 09 335i and im actually in the process of selling it to get myself into a z possibly a new nismo if eveything works out as planned. I'm assuming you'd be buying preowned if your looking at 335i's since the 09's are in the low 30's and im guessing the genesis is worth close to that range but anyway without sounding like a run on sentence i'd just like give you my 2 cents, the 335i is my daily driver and it was a nice experience at first but it gets so dreadfully boring after dd it for so long, had a hard time finding a stick with the right options, mine is fully loaded so I had to settle for the msport package paddle shifters, that being said its really really really boring and the maintenance on this car is crazy it's in every month since i've owned it for one of bmw's recall notices (thank god it's under factory warranty still because the invoices are shocking), anyway this is 100% my opinion based on my experience with the car I don't wanna scare you but I thought i'd share my experience. As many would agree you can't beat the reliability of a japanese car, also 99% of my car's problems have been with the cars electric system which bmw is known for. The major problems I had were the ecu and other components of the electrical system failing ranging from the idrive system (which blows in my opinion), to the engine malfunction warning on 5 times in the last year because the fuel pump went twice another issue the n54 engine is known for. Not to mention its about $80 every 5 days to fill up were I live.

XiP · 05-09-2013, 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by dcnj610

I currently drive an 09 335i and im actually in the process of selling it to get myself into a z possibly a new nismo if eveything works out as planned. I'm assuming you'd be buying preowned if your looking at 335i's since the 09's are in the low 30's and im guessing the genesis is worth close to that range but anyway without sounding like a run on sentence i'd just like give you my 2 cents, the 335i is my daily driver and it was a nice experience at first but it gets so dreadfully boring after dd it for so long, had a hard time finding a stick with the right options, mine is fully loaded so I had to settle for the msport package paddle shifters, that being said its really really really boring and the maintenance on this car is crazy it's in every month since i've owned it for one of bmw's recall notices (thank god it's under factory warranty still because the invoices are shocking), anyway this is 100% my opinion based on my experience with the car I don't wanna scare you but I thought i'd share my experience. As many would agree you can't beat the reliability of a japanese car, also 99% of my car's problems have been with the cars electric system which bmw is known for. The major problems I had were the ecu and other components of the electrical system failing ranging from the idrive system (which blows in my opinion), to the engine malfunction warning on 5 times in the last year because the fuel pump went twice another issue the n54 engine is known for. Not to mention its about $80 every 5 days to fill up were I live.

german engineering at its finest

olddudesrule · 05-09-2013, 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by SuperMiguel

No bored, its just where i work at every one drives MB, BMW, expensive cars then every time we go to a clients im the one driving the loud *** Hyundai :P i think driving loud 370z may fix that (just thinking out loud)

Hate to sound like the old dude (shoe fits...), but how about not giving a f&$k what they think? Buy what you want, because you want it, but realize this...if you're looking for a car to do more for you than be fun, you'll continue to be disappointed...

BTW, I love my Z, and I've had z06's, Vipers, and FFR Cobras..

SuperMiguel · 05-09-2013, 08:49 PM

Agree but maybe ill enjoy the Z more?

Even tough my car on a dyno makes 400WHP to make it go 401WHP i have to spend alot of money full engine built, new turbo, etc, etc, and if i go with a bigger turbo, then i have to wait until i hit 4.5k rpm to get a full spool out of it, and my redline is 6.6k so i only get that 400 + whp for 2k rpm...

I think that for daily driving like regular trafic driving a z may be more responsive at least from 1k to 5k rpm... And later i can add a supercharger or a turbo to it and get that crazy top end?

lol now im just trying to convince my self

Like i also have few friends that ride supras, evos, and they are up there 700+ and to get even close to 700 on my gen i probably have to drop 20k on it... and ill be the first one to do it, so it will not be reliable, and will have a hard *** time finding a tuner...

With the 370z many of you guys with internal and twin turbos (15k i believe) are making that safe power...

Z_ealot · 05-09-2013, 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

with one thing. No one can be as much as a dumb azzz as you... In that fact

But as for everything else he wrote... You might want to read his thread history before holding this opinion with any validity.

i've got him on iggy anyways, but yeah i have to agree....as for the OP i definitely suggest a test drive is in order, i remember the first time i test drove a 370 before purchasing and instantly fell in love with the way the car felt and handled. I didnt care that it didnt have the most horsepower or was the fastest at anything, it just felt right the first time i sat in one and i have never looked back since, but to be fair i also did what the OP is doing and did my homework before purchasing unlike "SOME" people who bought purely for looks which is the stupidest way to buy a car in my opinion if you're going to live with the car on a daily basis for any period of time.

SuperMiguel · 05-09-2013, 09:51 PM

One thing that i really like is the support you guys get... look: Forced Induction - Nissan 370Z Forum first 7 post is from companies selling and supporting mods for you guys... You know how many companies are willing to push the genesis past 400 whp? Only one TurboXS... and everytime u change something in your car you cant get it custom tuned it has to be canned tuned which makes you run rich as hell...

JungleZ · 05-09-2013, 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by SuperMiguel

One thing that i really like is the support you guys get... look: Forced Induction - Nissan 370Z Forum first 7 post is from companies selling and supporting mods for you guys... You know how many companies are willing to push the genesis past 400 whp? Only one TurboXS... and everytime u change something in your car you cant get it custom tuned it has to be canned tuned which makes you run rich as hell...

2013 Sport Package 370Z = 37,000$ invoice
Twin Turbo= $10-15,000
Springs + Shocks or Coilovers/sway bars= $1500-$3000
Tires,rear camber kit, Alignment= $2000
Uprev Tuning= ?

I didnt include Clear Bra, Stereo, BBK ss lines.
You decide if thats worth it

SuperMiguel · 05-09-2013, 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by JungleZ

2013 Sport Package 370Z = 37,000$ invoice
Twin Turbo= $10-15,000
Springs + Shocks or Coilovers/sway bars= $1500-$3000
Tires,rear camber kit, Alignment= $2000
Uprev Tuning= ?

I didnt include Clear Bra, Stereo, BBK ss lines.
You decide if thats worth it

So i wasnt thinking to get it brand new... but still

2011 370Z = 23000$
Twin Turbo= $10-15,000
Springs + Shocks or Coilovers/sway bars= $1500-$3000
Tires,rear camber kit, Alignment= $2000
Uprev Tuning= ?

still alottt i own 23 on my genesis, ill be lucky if i get that for it.. and have about 12k mods on it

DIGItonium · 05-09-2013, 10:30 PM

If you had the 350Z and loved it, you won't be disappointed with the 370Z. Interior is much improved over the 350Z, and I still like it very much till this very day. Since you seem to have experience in the modding world, the 370Z has pretty good support.

Depending on your budget, an '09 can be bought for under $25k. There are several turbo options, and GTM's MHI TT kit seems to hit the spot when it comes to price. It'll definitely get you around 500 whp, which is plenty of power. I'm at 450 whp, and it's enough to shred tires with a big fat grin on my face. Power aside, this car sounds great with an aftermarket exhaust. If you want nice and deep sounding without the rasp, it is definitely possible.

So for starters, look at a TT/SC kit for around $5500-7500, 3" exhaust, oil cooler for around $450, aftermarket clutch/flywheel kit, and heavy duty slave cylinder (stock ones will fail), and gauges.

Speaking of tires, deep wheels with appropriate offset, fat tires, and a slight drop FTW!

Z_ealot · 05-09-2013, 11:17 PM

if you actually bother to take a look at truecar it will clearly tell you that the factory invoice for a 370Z with sport package and nothing else is $34,781 unlike what some people spout out of their mouth here who don't even bother to do research and just to name one dealer who is actually selling at that price here is a link to fontana nissans website 2013 Nissan 370Z in Fontana | Nissan Dealer Fontana | Fontana Nissan Dealer | Nissan Dealer Fontana | Fontana Nissan

05-09-2013, 05:32 PM	#36 (permalink)
dcnj610 Base Member Join Date: May 2013 Location: new jersey Posts: 4 Drives: 09 bmw 335ix blk a6 Rep Power: 12	I currently drive an 09 335i and im actually in the process of selling it to get myself into a z possibly a new nismo if eveything works out as planned. I'm assuming you'd be buying preowned if your looking at 335i's since the 09's are in the low 30's and im guessing the genesis is worth close to that range but anyway without sounding like a run on sentence i'd just like give you my 2 cents, the 335i is my daily driver and it was a nice experience at first but it gets so dreadfully boring after dd it for so long, had a hard time finding a stick with the right options, mine is fully loaded so I had to settle for the msport package paddle shifters, that being said its really really really boring and the maintenance on this car is crazy it's in every month since i've owned it for one of bmw's recall notices (thank god it's under factory warranty still because the invoices are shocking), anyway this is 100% my opinion based on my experience with the car I don't wanna scare you but I thought i'd share my experience. As many would agree you can't beat the reliability of a japanese car, also 99% of my car's problems have been with the cars electric system which bmw is known for. The major problems I had were the ecu and other components of the electrical system failing ranging from the idrive system (which blows in my opinion), to the engine malfunction warning on 5 times in the last year because the fuel pump went twice another issue the n54 engine is known for. Not to mention its about $80 every 5 days to fill up were I live. XiP, Maivz and SmokeEater27 like this.

05-09-2013, 10:30 PM	#44 (permalink)
DIGItonium A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Kansas Posts: 3,800 Drives: 09 Z34-TT 6MT Rep Power: 42	If you had the 350Z and loved it, you won't be disappointed with the 370Z. Interior is much improved over the 350Z, and I still like it very much till this very day. Since you seem to have experience in the modding world, the 370Z has pretty good support. Depending on your budget, an '09 can be bought for under $25k. There are several turbo options, and GTM's MHI TT kit seems to hit the spot when it comes to price. It'll definitely get you around 500 whp, which is plenty of power. I'm at 450 whp, and it's enough to shred tires with a big fat grin on my face. Power aside, this car sounds great with an aftermarket exhaust. If you want nice and deep sounding without the rasp, it is definitely possible. So for starters, look at a TT/SC kit for around $5500-7500, 3" exhaust, oil cooler for around $450, aftermarket clutch/flywheel kit, and heavy duty slave cylinder (stock ones will fail), and gauges. Speaking of tires, deep wheels with appropriate offset, fat tires, and a slight drop FTW! __________________

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05-09-2013, 04:08 PM	#34 (permalink)
ElVee Track Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Iowa Posts: 750 Drives: 13 370z 7at t+s grey Rep Power: 16	A Z will definitely be the looker in that group, moreso than the Genesis. Not to poke the big elephant in the room too hard, but I would definitely think twice and three times about getting a new car just because you want to fit in with the work crowd. Standing out might be nice: Mr. youthful with his go-fast car and less debt....etc. Who knows, just throwing some non-performance thoughts out there!

05-09-2013, 08:49 PM	#39 (permalink)
SuperMiguel Base Member Join Date: May 2013 Location: Tampa Posts: 17 Drives: 2.0t Genesis Coupe Rep Power: 12	Agree but maybe ill enjoy the Z more? Even tough my car on a dyno makes 400WHP to make it go 401WHP i have to spend alot of money full engine built, new turbo, etc, etc, and if i go with a bigger turbo, then i have to wait until i hit 4.5k rpm to get a full spool out of it, and my redline is 6.6k so i only get that 400 + whp for 2k rpm... I think that for daily driving like regular trafic driving a z may be more responsive at least from 1k to 5k rpm... And later i can add a supercharger or a turbo to it and get that crazy top end? lol now im just trying to convince my self Like i also have few friends that ride supras, evos, and they are up there 700+ and to get even close to 700 on my gen i probably have to drop 20k on it... and ill be the first one to do it, so it will not be reliable, and will have a hard *** time finding a tuner... With the 370z many of you guys with internal and twin turbos (15k i believe) are making that safe power...

05-09-2013, 09:51 PM	#41 (permalink)
SuperMiguel Base Member Join Date: May 2013 Location: Tampa Posts: 17 Drives: 2.0t Genesis Coupe Rep Power: 12	One thing that i really like is the support you guys get... look: Forced Induction - Nissan 370Z Forum first 7 post is from companies selling and supporting mods for you guys... You know how many companies are willing to push the genesis past 400 whp? Only one TurboXS... and everytime u change something in your car you cant get it custom tuned it has to be canned tuned which makes you run rich as hell...

05-09-2013, 11:17 PM	#45 (permalink)
Z_ealot A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Albuquerque, NM Posts: 2,045 Drives: 09 370Z Touring/Sprt Rep Power: 10090	if you actually bother to take a look at truecar it will clearly tell you that the factory invoice for a 370Z with sport package and nothing else is $34,781 unlike what some people spout out of their mouth here who don't even bother to do research and just to name one dealer who is actually selling at that price here is a link to fontana nissans website 2013 Nissan 370Z in Fontana \| Nissan Dealer Fontana \| Fontana Nissan Dealer \| Nissan Dealer Fontana \| Fontana Nissan