EVO-R vs OEM Rear Fog

asdfsammich · 04-05-2013, 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by ProfessorDave

It would be pretty easy to wire the EVO-R to the tail lights. You could wire the blink function to brakes. I posted a DIY awhile back, although I used switch power for the solid on and tied the blink function to the reverse lights. Still, the wires for the tail lights and brake lights are in the same harness.

I agree with Wonka, the EVO-R LEDs are not that bright. Practically invisible in daylight.

Thanks Dave. I hadn't come across you DIY yet. I'll look it up. There's a lot of threads on it for sure, that's where I got the idea that some folks think it's too bright.

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asdfsammich · 04-05-2013, 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by CDepp

Why would you want a dim fog light? It's considered a safety item for fog as it's very bright and visible through dense fog. Trying to mimic it would be to go brighter. Making it dim makes it appear, maybe just to me, that the attempt was made with a cheap alternative to the real deal.

Now, doing something different with that spot has a different effect. So, if you have it strobe/flash like a formula brake and never stay solid, that would be cool and no longer a 'fog' light.

Being in SoCal it's all for looks not fog safety. I agree you can do a lot of different things with that light. For me it's just about replacing the cheap looking plastic cover with an actual light, and for looks, balance mainly, matching it's brightness with the ON taillights. If I can do brake brighter, I'll throw that in but it's not a deal breaker.

I don't think a fog, modified to match the tail lights in brightness tends towards the cheapness of the plastic plate. An
apple doesn't tend towards an orange. It's apple and oranges.

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CDepp · 04-05-2013, 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by asdfsammich

Being in SoCal it's all for looks not fog safety. I agree you can do a lot of different things with that light. For me it's just about replacing the cheap looking plastic cover with an actual light, and for looks, balance mainly, matching it's brightness with the ON taillights. If I can do brake brighter, I'll throw that in but it's not a deal breaker.

I don't think a fog, modified to match the tail lights in brightness tends towards the cheapness of the plastic plate. An
apple doesn't tend towards an orange. It's apple and oranges.

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You only plan to drive in SoCal?

To me, again, having a dim light where a bright light goes seems cheap. Maybe it's just me, but it appears that the attempt was made, but not met, to make the device look like a fog lamp. Then again, I've been driving all over, including much of EU in the past, and I expect to see more things that what's only inclusive to SoCal.
I would look at a Z with an actual fog lamp, and one with a dim fog light, and think to myself, "What's wrong with the Z with the dim fog"?
If I saw two Z's and one had a strobe-brake light effect and no constant-on illumination, and one with a standard fog, I would think to myself, "Wow! they really did something different with the fog light area".

So, I guess if you never leave SoCal, a dim fog lamp may be just the thing for you.

EDIT: Go brighter, at all expense. Don't make a Z look half-***-ed. Just my not-so-humble opinion.

Ubetit · 04-05-2013, 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by CDepp

You only plan to drive in SoCal?

If I saw two Z's and one had a strobe-brake light effect and no constant-on illumination, and one with a standard fog, I would think to myself, "Wow! they really did something different with the fog light area".

...and that's why you make your payment, and I make mine. If i saw a fog light that had a strobe-brake light effect i would think to myself "Wow, he's going to give someone a seizure" or since i'm older I might also wonder "Where's the disco?"

XwChriswX · 04-05-2013, 10:38 AM

I have the Smoked EVO-R fog light on my Black Z so it blends in until the light is on.

No ugly red butthole. It is Plenty bright at night when it's blinking. I have it wired to come on with my headlights and blink on braking. Love it.

As for blending with OEMs, I think the LEDs match the LED taillights better than an OEM bulb, but that's just me.

asdfsammich · 04-05-2013, 11:57 AM

This is an outrage!

Lols. Nah, good info. So I can haz the tint of the OEM, with LEDs of the EVOR and perceived brightness of the tail lights, by buying both and hacking away.

I think I'll just go OEM for cost, cuz I slightly favor tweak-able brightness over LEDs for the butthole of the Z.

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asdfsammich · 04-05-2013, 01:16 PM

No worries bro.

I think the regulatory compliance argument for fog light aesthetics is simply going on full tarded-ness. But you can think how you want

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asdfsammich · 04-05-2013, 05:51 PM

To answer your other question, my Z is mainly driven in the Southwest, Cali but also Arizona and Nevada.

Not sure why you'd assume that if my Z doesn't travel far that neither do I.

If I'm somewhere with more fog risk, like the East coast, it's usually for work. If I'm on another continent, it's been for fun.

I don't take my Z with me I fly and get a rental. Come to think of it, the aero planes I ride in have ultra super bright fog lights. You should get one of those for you Z

In any case, I can see you feel strongly for operating a fog light within regulatory guidelines. Or, if not you also approve of running it like a strobe light, or a set of rave lasers, whatever

Some peeps want to go subtle. Yep. You know that happens sometimes. No other reason other than they want to and they can. Lols.

Either way, good info came to thread, so I'm good.

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CDepp · 04-06-2013, 01:08 AM

Just giving you guys grief. If you like what you do with your car, that's all that matters.

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04-05-2013, 11:57 AM	#6 (permalink)
asdfsammich Enthusiast Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Southern California Posts: 456 Drives: 09 370Z SR MT Rep Power: 15	This is an outrage! Lols. Nah, good info. So I can haz the tint of the OEM, with LEDs of the EVOR and perceived brightness of the tail lights, by buying both and hacking away. I think I'll just go OEM for cost, cuz I slightly favor tweak-able brightness over LEDs for the butthole of the Z. Tapatalk2 ...

04-05-2013, 01:16 PM	#7 (permalink)
asdfsammich Enthusiast Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Southern California Posts: 456 Drives: 09 370Z SR MT Rep Power: 15	No worries bro. I think the regulatory compliance argument for fog light aesthetics is simply going on full tarded-ness. But you can think how you want Tapatalk2 ...

04-05-2013, 05:51 PM	#8 (permalink)
asdfsammich Enthusiast Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Southern California Posts: 456 Drives: 09 370Z SR MT Rep Power: 15	To answer your other question, my Z is mainly driven in the Southwest, Cali but also Arizona and Nevada. Not sure why you'd assume that if my Z doesn't travel far that neither do I. If I'm somewhere with more fog risk, like the East coast, it's usually for work. If I'm on another continent, it's been for fun. I don't take my Z with me I fly and get a rental. Come to think of it, the aero planes I ride in have ultra super bright fog lights. You should get one of those for you Z In any case, I can see you feel strongly for operating a fog light within regulatory guidelines. Or, if not you also approve of running it like a strobe light, or a set of rave lasers, whatever Some peeps want to go subtle. Yep. You know that happens sometimes. No other reason other than they want to and they can. Lols. Either way, good info came to thread, so I'm good. Tapatalk2 ...