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Originally Posted by Ztoon You've verbalized what I've always thought. I just don't get it. .... Nismo is just window dressing, not a distinct and unique model. Porsche got it

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Old 01-21-2010, 06:51 PM   #1 (permalink)
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You've verbalized what I've always thought.
I just don't get it. .... Nismo is just window dressing, not a distinct and unique model.

Porsche got it right introducing the Cayman, which holds it own, between the boxster and 911.

Would be great to see something substantial between the 370 and GTR.
But what are people looking for exactly to be in between?
~Cannot do forced induction from factory, that is GT-R only probably
~Can make it lighter with a slight HP bump, but a lot of people want the luxury (look at the GT-R)
~Track oriented or street performance?

I think Nissan has both gaps field nicely, and with a good amount of aftermarket options the Z has you can get up to the GT-R in power, handle better, or turn it into a great looking show car. I think in the end, the Z is our middle ground car, step into the speed but not the full taste.
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Old 01-21-2010, 11:23 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I really think they did okay with it.

I mean, if the Nismo (or any Z) started at 10k more, or somewhere in that ballpark then you would be in Vette territory which is pretty much the next up big performance bargain.

I think if they wanted to really appeal to enthusiasts looking for a track car they should've done what Hyundai did with the Genesis and release a hardcore track version of the car. Badge it a Nismo but strip -everything- off the car. Make it completely bare and try to sell that for cheap -- maybe even trim the warranty down on the car as a sort of "we understand how you will drive it, so just take it and don't bother us deal."

I understand that will never happen, but still.

edit: also, I too love moto. that is a Z right there
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Sorry Red, didnt mean to come off that way. I just absolutely love bikes and cars and seem to get along with anyone into the same. I'm not 20 anymore so my back goes south on the crotch rockets so cars get all my attn now.

I've been fortune but my advice to all you younger guys out there. Its all over rated, build what you like and don't over extend yourself. Cars and bikes are way less fun when the payment kicks your butt or even worse when sh#$ keeps breaking!

As far as the next post. I'm game for that! Ferrari has the Challenge, full stripped down track car that's damn SICK but that takes a real baller to have a Ferrari that you can't even drive on the street. Screw that! A stripped down Z for the track at say high 20's...That I would of done
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Old 01-21-2010, 11:32 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Why is that some reliable sites have listed the Nismo tires' width to be smaller than the base one?
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Old 01-23-2010, 06:07 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Why is that some reliable sites have listed the Nismo tires' width to be smaller than the base one?
They aren't really that reliable?
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Here is another example. Not the one with the Nismo being smaller though.

2010 Nissan 370Z Coupe | Specs | Nissan USA

Track Width (inches)
18" Aluminum-alloy wheels (front/rear) 61.0/62.8
19" RAYSŪ forged alloy wheels (front/rear) 60.6/61.6
19" NISMO/RAYSŪ forged alloy wheels (front/rear) 61.2/62.2

Why would the base model have a bigger width than ones on the sports package?
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Here is another example. Not the one with the Nismo being smaller though.

2010 Nissan 370Z Coupe | Specs | Nissan USA

Track Width (inches)
18" Aluminum-alloy wheels (front/rear) 61.0/62.8
19" RAYSŪ forged alloy wheels (front/rear) 60.6/61.6
19" NISMO/RAYSŪ forged alloy wheels (front/rear) 61.2/62.2

Why would the base model have a bigger width than ones on the sports package?
I have the 2010 factory Z brochure, and the "Track Width" matches your numbers. If you look at a car with 18" wheels closely, you will see it actually fills out the wheel wells (width not height) better than the sport rays. The offset of the 18" wheels is wider for some reason.
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Alright I read this whopping thread so I get to contribute my useless opinion

For the record, I like the regular 370Z body style and wheels over the Nismo so spending less was a no-brainer (s'why I bought one), but if you're into that and/or the parts then hey, it's already assembled, better warrantied, and a bit harder to find than a regular Z so go for it. Personally the Nismo spoiler is the only part I'd consider.

Are the upgrades worth the money? Probably not but depends on if they're exactly what you want. I think that the fact we are starting with THE BEST cheapish sports car on the PLANET and talking about value is tainting the discussion. Improving on perfection is a tricky business.

No matter what compromise Nissan came up with for the package lots of us would still not think it was worth it (unless we can get that GTR engine!).

My bottom line: As long as it has a Z on it, it's okay in my book
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Sorry Red, didnt mean to come off that way. I just absolutely love bikes and cars and seem to get along with anyone into the same. I'm not 20 anymore so my back goes south on the crotch rockets so cars get all my attn now.
That wasnt an insult man, that was respect, I only hope I can be so successful to say that I've owned a Ferrari, or a 100k+ car! As for now, I am but a lowly foot soldier, but my best years are yet to come!
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