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Originally Posted by G37sHKS Im not sure why you guys are hating, but OP's friend is absolutely right. If you think this 30 whp gain for 5000 is not a

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Old 03-08-2013, 03:24 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Im not sure why you guys are hating, but OP's friend is absolutely right.

If you think this 30 whp gain for 5000 is not a waste then you should ride an EVO or STI to show you what they can do with 5000.

Im speaking from experience, I went from full bolts on with tune except headers all the way to turbo on same car G37 Coupe. I went with TT because I felt nothing.. no harder pulls no neck breaker no nothing!!

"IF" I wanna stay NA, I would sell my intakes and test pipe and go back to stock just leaving aftermarket exhaust and not because of gains but because of sound.

Honda guys would probably say, shyte....$5000!?, my civic cost haf dat!

In all seriousness, it honestly doesn't matter if you mod or stay stock as long as it makes you happy and can afford it. I've seen people spend $30k in mods and were really happy with thier cars but were flat out broke and miserable.

If you can swing $3k in mods for around 30whp gains, it's not really a "waste" comparing $1/hp on more serious mods like forced induction. It's just more rewarding & responsive on certain cars. A rwd two-door, two-seater isn't exactly the most practical thing to begin with.

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He dirves a 2011 subaru wrx with a bunch of mods him self lol!
He has COBB tune and COBB intake and turbo heat shield and SPT quad exhaust and he has rota gird replica of volk te37 and he has STI sway bars
OP, I think your friend is a bit jelly cause his car is ugly.....it's an awesome performance car, but come on....the last thing on my mind when someone mentions a subby is a sexy looking car.
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OP, I think your friend is a bit jelly cause his car is ugly.....
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Well to his credit

wrx and evos do respond better but still
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wrx and evos do respond better but still
True story, but that's why he feels he's on a high horse. His car responds to mods better than ours, but that's par for the course when you're factory turbo'd.
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LOL!!!! dude you guys are frikin hilarious. BUt yeah your right in the end it's my choice and my decision to spend if i want or not! thanks guys! much obliged!
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Its a waste of money...if you're on welfare, are over your head in debt, have children to feed, etc etc etc.
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While there may be a grain of truth to what your buddy says, I think he's yanking your chain.

Personally, I have enough HP already and the cost of those extra ponies wouldn't be worth it to me.
Others seem to enjoy wringing every last bit of power out of the drivetrain and think it's worthwhile to spend quite a bit of money for a few extra HP.
Ie, it all depends on what you want and how much you're willing to pay for it.
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EXACTLY!!!
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My friend is a big car enthusiast. And is the most knowledgeable person about cars that i know. He literally is no noob or ricer or someone who just think he knows. He does and when I research it from the correct sources, he's always correct to the dot. He says that getting Stillen Gen 3 intakes and Fast intentions CBE and a UPrev tune is all a waste of money just for 30hp and a couple of more torque since I will never ever even feel the difference unless I'm on a track and going 100mph or more. He says that daily driving it's a waste of money to get any of those mods. Especially because what I am doing is all Naturally aspirated and I don't get much gains unless I go Forced Induction. Do you think I'm wasting my money with these mods and i wont feel it at all?
Your friend is right. What I did first were my brakes. Now i'm working on suspension mods. You can add just as much acceleration time improving your suspension tune as you can intake/exhaust if done right. The difference is, the suspension tune will be useful throughout the range and will really make your car feel better.
Intake and exhaust are great for aesthetics unless you're doing quarter miles. I prefer the MAF hose mod as it helps keep air cooler going into the intake which has more use. In conjunction with HP filters you get 3-8hp throughout the range, instead of 10-15 hp in the last 200rpm. But if you're on the dragstrip? Thats where you will need high rev power.

N/A applications. The most important things are:
Brakes
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weight reduction.

At the end of the day though... It's your money. Use it how you want to. Opinions are like azzholes.

But $4,000 in breathing mods? (intake, headers, test pipe, exhaust) Or $4,500 in a supercharger? I'll take the supercharger. Or spend an extra grand or two on a single turbo kit.
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I'm all for doing whatever you want, but my opinion is unless you are going to race the car, I can't see any point in go fast mods. Mods for ascetics is another matter.
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Your friend has a good point. All the basic mods really won't be noticeable until you push your car close to its limits. But that doesn't stop people from getting aftermarket parts. Sure, performance is important, but so is individuality. For instance, I personally get exhaust systems for my cars not because of the minimal power gains (that's a plus, of course), but mainly for the sounds that stir the soul. In the end, you install parts not only to improve your car; you install parts that make you want to drive your car just a little more.
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Sounds to me like your friend is scarred your car might be better (faster?) than his if you mod and he is threaten by it.
Honestly, most NA cars do not respond that well compared to a factory boosted car. Which for people who have them (factory boost) do not understand the balance of NA power v price v performance. It can be a bit costly for smaller gains, but at the same time it generates a different response in engine performance, sound, car dynamics, etc.
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$4,500 for just 30 hp = not that good
$4,500 for 30 hp, looks, and deep exotic sound = 100 hp on the butt dyno = very happy driver
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