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Originally Posted by DIGItonium The Z can't move up market. That's what lead to the eventual demise of the Z32. It was exceeding $40k, which was pricey for its time.

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Old 01-18-2013, 12:21 PM   #1 (permalink)
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The Z can't move up market. That's what lead to the eventual demise of the Z32. It was exceeding $40k, which was pricey for its time. The Z is supposed to be the budget sports car for the masses. All these new cars nowadays are full of electronic gizmos, and it seems like the unfortunate result of what the market wants nowadays beyond cup holders.

I miss seeing budget pocket rockets in the $15k range. How about a RWD economical pocket rocket with a 1.6L turbo (option)? It serves as an economical starting point for enthusiasts, and is economical for those who want a fun fuel sipping car with a bit of turbo grunt.

If the Z remains in the upper $28k to sub $30k range, it must face stiff competition with the pony cars. Even if it is in a different class, it is already being subjected to such comparos. Look at owners who dropped the Z in favor of Mustangs (no offense, but that's just how it is).

So here's what I think Nissan needs to cover their bases for performance, value, and fuel economy:
Sub $15k FWD: Sentra SE-R (standard 1.6L turbo)
Sub $20k RWD: Silvia (standard 1.6-2.4L turbo)
Sub $30k RWD: Z (3.5-3.8L NA V6 or maybe 2.5-3.0L turbo V6)

Wishful thinking because of inflation.


Do the same, but for curb weight.
50k after inflation to today pushes that alot higher. Plus production for that Z was alot more expensive due to all the (then high tech) stuff they put in it that other cars didnt have. Sharing components for today's z brings production cost down and it can remain profitable.

The Z will most probably end up starting at 40k and go to 50k.

assuming the lower car will go around 25-30k range
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The Z can't move up market. That's what lead to the eventual demise of the Z32. It was exceeding $40k, which was pricey for its time. The Z is supposed to be the budget sports car for the masses. All these new cars nowadays are full of electronic gizmos, and it seems like the unfortunate result of what the market wants nowadays beyond cup holders.

I miss seeing budget pocket rockets in the $15k range. How about a RWD economical pocket rocket with a 1.6L turbo (option)? It serves as an economical starting point for enthusiasts, and is economical for those who want a fun fuel sipping car with a bit of turbo grunt.

If the Z remains in the upper $28k to sub $30k range, it must face stiff competition with the pony cars. Even if it is in a different class, it is already being subjected to such comparos. Look at owners who dropped the Z in favor of Mustangs (no offense, but that's just how it is).

So here's what I think Nissan needs to cover their bases for performance, value, and fuel economy:
Sub $22k FWD: Sentra SE-R (standard 1.6L turbo)
Sub $27k RWD: Silvia (standard 1.6-2.4L turbo)
Sub $34k RWD: Z (3.5-3.8L NA V6 or maybe 2.5-3.0L turbo V6)


Wishful thinking because of inflation.


Do the same, but for curb weight.
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We gotta be realistic when looking at the current market.
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Old 01-18-2013, 03:17 PM   #3 (permalink)
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We gotta be realistic when looking at the current market.
I guess it's only because I'm a new homeowner now and the last thing on my mind is buying a new car costing over $30k. I feel old... been going out talking about how things used to be several years ago haha.
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Was there a 3.7 before the 370, or g37. Was there a 3.5 before the 350, or g35.
Was there a 3.8 before the GTR. All engines start somewhere and nissan has been slowly going up in displacement since the start. Why would they go away from a very successful sports car line up to switch to something new before testing it out.
what 3.7 liter and 3.8 liter was there before the Z/G and GTR?
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Was there a 3.7 before the 370, or g37. Was there a 3.5 before the 350, or g35.
Was there a 3.8 before the GTR. All engines start somewhere and nissan has been slowly going up in displacement since the start. Why would they go away from a very successful sports car line up to switch to something new before testing it out.

dude are you READING up on Z news or just assuming that because of some past pattern uou think business will be the same???

Do you know anything about the 2016 and 2020 CAFE standards coming up? Do you know that every car company is downsizing their engines.

The Q50 has a 3.5 hybrid and a 3.7. So if the G is any proof of the next gen Z, it would be in the Q50 since the G moniker no longer exists. So with your thinking, the 400Z is still NOT coming. think...

That said, Nissan claims that the G and Z will no longer share platforms, and the Z is set to get a more efficient engine, ie downsized... which further negates your 400Z thinking At best the Z will keep the 3.7 and get a 3.5 hybrid alternative, then make a 4 cyl baby Z.

The 4.0ltr v6 is the most unefficient engine out there. And honestly, once 4 litres, you should probably consider running a v8.
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Won't happen. Why make a GTR competitor.
That's like asking GM why would they make the camaro when they have the corvette
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Yes I know exactly about CAB standards. Having a smaller displacement Z will allow them to have the larger displacement one. Nissan is also coming out with multiple hybrids in 2014. I used to think the same way as you. I wasn't saying that there won't be a smaller displacement Z. I have argued my point that the next Z will be a Turbo 4 in other threads. I am just saying another Z could also be in development. Calling it mini Z or smaller Z implies that there also has to be a larger Z. That could just be them talking about the previous generation, but you never no.
Why argue when we can discuss?
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Do you know what a argument is. A argument is two people exchanging differing views. How could we discuss without arguing.
No Thats a "Debate". An argument is when you throw in unnecessary BS attitudes into a debate...

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