ATTENTION!! 2009-2010 owners with steering lock/wont start issues

SouthArk370Z · 03-20-2014, 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by jayhuffdaddy

I'll ask them about it when they call me back with the status of the back ordered part. They claim that no one had been back even with the new units with same issue.

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Originally Posted by 4r3s

... the replacement part has recorded failures as well. Far fewer albeit, but still has failures. The newest model Zs don't even have the part installed which is a pretty good indicator of how useful the part actually is.

The newest revision ESCL seems to be more reliable but, as 4r3s points out, there have been some failures.

How many 370Z ESCLs has your shop worked on? I'm guessing not enough to have a good statistical sample.

The ESCL is, IMNSHO, pretty worthless to start with (and, apparently, Nissan agrees as they no longer install ESCLs on 370Zs). Why risk another failure for a part that doesn't really do anything? Pull the fuse. If it weren't for the "handshaking" signals that the ESCL has to present for the car to start, I'd remove mine* completely.

* Edit: my ESCL box, not the fuse. Thanks to 4r3s for pointing out the ambiguity.

4r3s · 03-20-2014, 10:59 AM

removing unnecessary confusing information

SouthArk370Z · 03-20-2014, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by 4r3s

I guess my car is special in that it doesn't need to "handshake" in order to start. Not sure where you are getting this from? I've been dd my car for about a year now with no fuse for the steering lock. Car runs just fine...

The ESCL sends a "coded message" to the BCM and has two switches that must be in the proper state. Pulling the fuse only disables the motor that moves the lock pin. The electronics are still powered from the BCM. See the SEC section of the FSM for details.

4r3s · 03-20-2014, 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by SouthArk370Z

The ESCL is, IMNSHO, pretty worthless to start with (and, apparently, Nissan agrees as they no longer install ESCLs on 370Zs). Why risk another failure for a part that doesn't really do anything? Pull the fuse. If it weren't for the "handshaking" signals that the ESCL has to present for the car to start, I'd remove mine completely.

I was confused on what you were referring to here. I thought you were saying to put the fuse back in and leave it in. You were saying you'd remove the whole ESCL unit if it wasn't for the handshake. Which yes, you are 100% correct. Reading comprehension fail on my part

SouthArk370Z · 03-20-2014, 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by 4r3s

I was confused on what you were referring to here. .... Reading comprehension fail on my part

Looking back at my post, I can see how it would be easy to interpret it the way you did. How 'bout we split the blame 50/50?

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