370z Nismo vs 370Z sport braking performance

street2soul · 10-04-2012, 01:22 AM

60-0 braking

370z Nismo

motor trend: 110 ft
edmunds-inside line: 115 ft (Braking Rating: Poor)
motorweek: 123 ft
370Z Sport

motor trend: 106 ft
edmunds-inside line: 108 ft (Braking Rating: Very Good)
edmunds: 101 ft
motor week: 119 ft

multiple sources suggested that nismo took a little more effort to stop from 60-0.
inside line said nismo pads felt wooden compared to 370z Sport.

is braking performance on nismo affected by the stiffer chassis, suspension setup?
Please advise if you have any idea!

280z/300zx · 10-04-2012, 08:15 AM

The brakes are the same. The only thing I can think of is the added weight of the NISMO vs. a base sport would cause the higher numbers.

theDreamer · 10-04-2012, 08:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 280z/300zx

The brakes are the same. The only thing I can think of is the added weight of the NISMO vs. a base sport would cause the higher numbers.

The weight is higher on the Nismo.

MightyBobo · 10-04-2012, 08:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by street2soul

60-0 braking

370z Nismo

motor trend: 110 ft
edmunds-inside line: 115 ft (Braking Rating: Poor)
motorweek: 123 ft
370Z Sport

motor trend: 106 ft
edmunds-inside line: 108 ft (Braking Rating: Very Good)
edmunds: 101 ft
motor week: 119 ft

multiple sources suggested that nismo took a little more effort to stop from 60-0.
inside line said nismo pads felt wooden compared to 370z Sport.

is braking performance on nismo affected by the stiffer chassis, suspension setup?
Please advise if you have any idea!

The chassis isnt any stiffer - they didnt do that with this generation of the Z, versus the 350Z's. The suspension however, is a bit stiffer. It's possible the stiffer suspension is the biggest culprit, due to less weight transfer to the front tires.

batboyvaj · 10-04-2012, 08:54 AM

but doesn't the nismo come with wider and stickier tires?

pfdaxe · 10-04-2012, 09:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by batboyvaj

but doesn't the nismo come with wider and stickier tires?

The rears are 10mm wider

jcosta79 · 10-04-2012, 09:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by batboyvaj

but doesn't the nismo come with wider and stickier tires?

Wider only in the rear.

jcosta79 · 10-04-2012, 09:38 AM

Were those tests performed with both cars on the same day and on the same track? Otherwise the numbers are meaningless. Different track conditions, surfaces, drivers, etc... The variables need to be eliminated for comparison tests to make sense.

It's like comparing dyno numbers. Unless it was done back to back on the same day, they're not of much use.

street2soul · 10-04-2012, 12:22 PM

Edmunds insideline test results are from the same day back to back driving I believe. One question is that nismo is only ~30 pounds max heavier. Would that make a drastic difference? Seems more like suspensions but i could be wrong

jcosta79 · 10-04-2012, 12:32 PM

Pads may not have been bedded in properly.

Tires may have been worn.

My only other guesses.

leighspped · 10-04-2012, 12:47 PM

i wouldn't be surprised if they didnt take out the spare.... its 50lbs in the rear

Coon-azz · 10-04-2012, 01:17 PM

so if I'm going to track the car twice a year (mild track) on my 2012 370z sport, do you think I need to upgrade the pads and brake fluid?

Max of 20 minute track times at Summit Point. Lots of threshhold breaking as well.

jcosta79 · 10-04-2012, 01:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coon-azz

so if I'm going to track the car twice a year (mild track) on my 2012 370z sport, do you think I need to upgrade the pads and brake fluid?

Max of 20 minute track times at Summit Point. Lots of threshhold breaking as well.

Anytime you take a car to the track, you should upgrade the pads and fluid.

I would HIGHLY recommend flushing the fluid after each track day as well.

MightyBobo · 10-04-2012, 01:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coon-azz

so if I'm going to track the car twice a year (mild track) on my 2012 370z sport, do you think I need to upgrade the pads and brake fluid?

Max of 20 minute track times at Summit Point. Lots of threshhold breaking as well.

Yes, you should.

I'll be at summit point this weekend, actually :-)

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10-04-2012, 01:22 AM	#1 (permalink)
street2soul Enthusiast Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Texas Posts: 284 Drives: 13 Nismo Rep Power: 3371	370z Nismo vs 370Z sport braking performance 60-0 braking 370z Nismo motor trend: 110 ft edmunds-inside line: 115 ft (Braking Rating: Poor) motorweek: 123 ft 370Z Sport motor trend: 106 ft edmunds-inside line: 108 ft (Braking Rating: Very Good) edmunds: 101 ft motor week: 119 ft multiple sources suggested that nismo took a little more effort to stop from 60-0. inside line said nismo pads felt wooden compared to 370z Sport. is braking performance on nismo affected by the stiffer chassis, suspension setup? Please advise if you have any idea!

10-04-2012, 09:38 AM	#8 (permalink)
jcosta79 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: N/A Posts: 1,430 Drives: N/A Rep Power: 16	Were those tests performed with both cars on the same day and on the same track? Otherwise the numbers are meaningless. Different track conditions, surfaces, drivers, etc... The variables need to be eliminated for comparison tests to make sense. It's like comparing dyno numbers. Unless it was done back to back on the same day, they're not of much use. __________________ 2012 PW NISMO #0559 - GT Spec Brace Kit - Swift Springs - ARK TP & Invidia CBE K&N Intake - UpRev Tune - 15mm Z1 Spacers & Studs - StopTech Slotted Rotors & SS Lines - ZSpeed CMAK with Stage 2 Clutch and Lightweight Flywheel

10-04-2012, 12:32 PM	#10 (permalink)
jcosta79 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: N/A Posts: 1,430 Drives: N/A Rep Power: 16	Pads may not have been bedded in properly. Tires may have been worn. My only other guesses. __________________ 2012 PW NISMO #0559 - GT Spec Brace Kit - Swift Springs - ARK TP & Invidia CBE K&N Intake - UpRev Tune - 15mm Z1 Spacers & Studs - StopTech Slotted Rotors & SS Lines - ZSpeed CMAK with Stage 2 Clutch and Lightweight Flywheel

10-04-2012, 12:47 PM	#11 (permalink)
leighspped Enthusiast Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Morristown Posts: 444 Drives: US Rep Power: 15	i wouldn't be surprised if they didnt take out the spare.... its 50lbs in the rear __________________ Performance: Fast Intentions LTH + CBX + Injen CAI + UpRev + KW3 + Whiteline sway bars + short throw shifter + 34r oil cooler = 335whp + (OS Giken Clutch and Diff) Interior : Recaro seat + Alpine HU and Rockford Fosgate Amp and Speakers + Passport 9500ci + JDM shift knob + LED's Forged avant garde m310's 19x9 19x12 RE-11

10-04-2012, 01:17 PM	#12 (permalink)
Coon-azz Track Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Fredericksburg,VA Posts: 689 Drives: '12 370z Sport DD Rep Power: 15	so if I'm going to track the car twice a year (mild track) on my 2012 370z sport, do you think I need to upgrade the pads and brake fluid? Max of 20 minute track times at Summit Point. Lots of threshhold breaking as well. __________________ I don't care how slow you want to drive; I encourage it. JUST GET THE HELL OUT OF THE PASSING LANE YOU TUCK FARD!!!

10-04-2012, 08:15 AM	#2 (permalink)
280z/300zx Track Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Nevada Posts: 689 Drives: 280z, 300zx, Vette Rep Power: 273	The brakes are the same. The only thing I can think of is the added weight of the NISMO vs. a base sport would cause the higher numbers.

10-04-2012, 08:54 AM	#5 (permalink)
batboyvaj Base Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: mn Posts: 111 Drives: 2011 370z Rep Power: 15	but doesn't the nismo come with wider and stickier tires?

10-04-2012, 12:22 PM	#9 (permalink)
street2soul Enthusiast Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Texas Posts: 284 Drives: 13 Nismo Rep Power: 3371	Edmunds insideline test results are from the same day back to back driving I believe. One question is that nismo is only ~30 pounds max heavier. Would that make a drastic difference? Seems more like suspensions but i could be wrong

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