Genesis Vs. 370Z

NIZMOZ

Didn't even noticed that. But it is a offset crash and needs to be head on center with the bumper to have the airbags off. This was a head on on the driver side portion of the car (which I still think they should have went off), but I have seen many cars not go off due to this type of accident.

I am still impressed with the compartment though didn't collapse hardly at all due to the force of the impact that happened.

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semtex

I had an offset crash in my 350 and both airbags deployed.

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BanningZ

^^^Ouch!

Ouch for you and the car.

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NIZMOZ

Right but you had your seatbelt on right?

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semtex

Yes I did. But my point is that the impact was not "head on center with the bumper." I think there may be some confusion over semantics going on here. If you're saying that the sensor in the front bumper must be impacted for the airbags to go off, then I would agree with you absolutely. But if you're saying that the collision itself must be head-on, then I disagree. To put it another way, a collision doesn't have to be head-on in order for the sensor in the front bumper to be impacted. The impact to my 350 was not head on -- I was turning left when a minivan hit my front passenger side just ahead of the front wheel. Obviously it was enough of an impact to trigger the airbag sensor. But it wasn't a head-on collision is all I'm saying.

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dad

It does not need to be a "head on center with the bumper" to activate the air bag(s).

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SMJane_Again

Wow, this thread has become a monster! Just got caught up and I have to say that if the topic has been debated this much on an enthusiast forum, then it stands to reason that your average consumer will in fact cross shop these two cars. The inevitable questions we have to ask ourselves is: 1. Will the fact the Genesis is a Hyundai (the heretofore well documented stigma that goes along with the marque) be overcome by the price disparity that a similarily specced Z has? 2. Does the average consumer even care the Genesis is a Hyundai?

Someone earlier quoted the article published in CAR about the Genesis being driven in South Korea. They failed to quote the portion of the article deriding the Genesis' horrible ride quality "...Yet the amble does highlight a flaw: the Genesis rides badly, its damping lacking the supple polish of the best sporting all-rounders. Perhaps a trip to Lotus would be in order. While they're at it, a proper limited-slip diff would be good too. Our car's locking diff is too lazy and imprecise to get power down cleanly when you're really pushing." Interestingly enough though, they end with a positive outlook saying "Today, with the Genesis Coupe, the company has built a truly world-class product. Let's just hope they have the sense to bring it to Britain." (p.86 Jan '09)

This seemingly at-odds conclusion is why I subscribe to EVO.

S.

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G&M Performance

Man you are being a little harsh. Don't get me wrong, I love the 370Z, but please give credit where it is due. Hyundai has really made some major strides towards a bright future in the sports car department. Is it as "prestigious" as Nissan's sports car heritage? Not yet. But they are certainly making their way up the chain.

And what about overall quality? I don't see Nissan (#14) up where Hyundai (#8) is. What's up with that? Heritage? Prestige? I thought companies are supposed to build better products over time?

Now about the accident photos... Sure, the airbags did not deploy in the wreck that you posted, but there are lemons in virtually every brand. As unfortunate as it is, sometimes stuff doesn't work. Anyway, I understand that you're loyal to Nissan and that you're merely defending the company that makes money off of you. But like I said #14 is not any better than #8 and the "other" supposed inferior company is still increasing the gap.

In the end, it's all about what you can afford and what you personally like. I am not a Hyundai fanboy, but I am smart enough to point out that it's a great company.

zsport1

There is no doubt that Hyundai has made vast improvements over the years. But my opinion is based on experience. I travel often for work and have rented and driven several Hyundai products. And even though the quality has improved it still feels like a cheap product. Overall quality? Go check that list again and you will find that Infiniti ranks above Hyaundai. Yes, a Nissan product.
Harsh? No not really.

G&M Performance

Yeah you're right about Infinity, but the Nissan labeled products are not as superior. Why is that anyway? Oh, and we all know that rentals are bottom of the barrel vehicles! I understand where you're coming from though.

Now if you would do me a favor, go take the time to test drive a Genesis coupe when they hit the dealerships. It may help you better appreciate their efforts.

By the way, the flyers have been passed out.

NIZMOZ

Hyundai still isn't a premium brand, but they still are higher than Nissan. Most of their cars haven't been that good, but as of the past 2 years, they have dramatically changed. The Genesis is one of the best cars I have seen and been in for quality. It is just as good as a Lexus.

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zsport1

Sorry man but I have had a Genesis sedan as a rental. 300 mile road trip. Not as nice as a Lexus. IMO. And I still don't think Hundyai is as good as Nissan. That is based on experience. Not a chart or a survey.

alefcole

I am just showing your table. SO PEOPLE CAN SEE THAT ACTUALLY HYUNDAI RANKS BETTER THEN NISSAN.

For the ones that believe that infinity is equal to nissan. Lets me put it this way. All the good reliable parts go primary to infinity, whats left goes to their cheaper brand.

Thats why a simple way to look for a true luxury brand is to look if they have a cheaper RE-brand or not. This goes for brands like toyota and honda. Actually hyundai doesn't, so they just use quality parts on their products period.

alefcole

And i thought PORSCHE was a true sports car.

dad

I heard it referred to as a GT Sports Car (as in classification, not the GT Nissan model).

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