Genesis Vs. 370Z

Alexus · 12-28-2008, 10:25 AM

Although I have to agree it's an awesome-looking and powerful car, not to mention a good tuning platform, I do not see myself spending 35-45k on a G37 look-alike, much less on a Hyundai. Sorry, but I'd be caught dead running around in a Hyundai no matter how awesome they're becoming.

drmike · 12-28-2008, 01:00 PM

Coming from a Euro-centric background (my '94 Miata was/is my first non-Euro car, and I made it to age 34, three years ago, before buying that) I just don't have the hang-ups about which brand, or whether it is Korean or Japanese, or whatever. To be fair, all of my friends will think I've gone nuts if I buy anything other than a German car (they don't respect the many years I spent with Alfas I guess), so peer pressure is the same (and ignored, thanks) regardless.

I think the Genesis is a great-looking car, and the tuners will have a lot of fun with them. They should get awfully mean on the track when stripped out, too.

BUT

Somehow it's still not for me. It's still lesser than other cars I could spend my future dollars on. Maybe it is the economy brand specter, after all. Or maybe the engineer in me still sees the 370Z as the superior car (not to mention even better-looking).

I'd enjoy driving around in a Genesis. But I will, someday, cherish my 370Z.

Pushing_Tin · 01-04-2009, 02:43 AM

I like it, except for the grill. But I'm sure the aftermarket will come out with something better looking.

Epik · 01-04-2009, 09:00 AM

Looking very good.

shumby · 01-04-2009, 04:06 PM

^^^ agreed

Asheth · 01-09-2009, 05:26 PM

Additional Details:

Review:
2010 Hyundai Genesis Coupe First Drive

Excerpt:

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Outpunching the Nissan VQ V6?
It's surely no coincidence that this 3,778cc V6 outpunches the Nissan VQ V6 by about 100cc. We're slightly perturbed to see we've landed the six-speed automatic instead of the standard six-speed manual, but the six-speed slusher is a blessing in traffic — smooth, fairly quick and hassle-free. The lack of shifter paddles on the steering wheel feels odd in a car so sporting, though. At least Sport mode holds the gear to the engine's redline and asks that you press the accelerator farther before it will kick down a gear.

We stick on Highway 4 and make for Hongcheon, impressed by the quality of the roads and amazed by how much of the Korean GDP must be spent on bridge-building projects. Some 70 percent of the country is mountainous, so there's a lot of fresh air to span. But it's taking a long time to get anywhere at the mandatory speed limit of 80 km/h (50 mph). At first we toe the line, perturbed by how few Korean drivers are willing to exceed the speed limit as well as by ubiquitous photo radar installations. But since there's zero police presence and the speed cameras are easy to spot, we settle in to a more reasonable 160 km/h (100 mph).

Even at this pace there's barely any wind noise in the Genesis coupe and tire noise is well suppressed except on the kind of concrete-paved sections you get on U.S. freeways. It's a nice cruiser, and a nice place to be. Even the soft-touch dash plastics exude quality — though the indicator stalks and charmless center console let the side down.

On the outskirts of Hongcheon the roadsides become a chaotic mix of LPG stations, single-story dwellings with tatty breezeblock walls and lunchtime eateries. A wide, slow-flowing river cuts through town and fishermen crouch peacefully at its sandy banks. But, like all the Korean towns we see, Hongcheon feels bland and reconstructed post-Korean War with too much haste and too little thought to the people who live there. So we push on through the Taebaek mountain range in search of Seoraksan National Park.

Additional Details Revealed by Hyundai:
Hyundai Releases Additional Coupe Specifications - NewGenesisCoupe.com

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Vehicle/Engine/Curb Weight (Lbs)/Length (inches)
Genesis sedan/3.8-liter V6/3748/195.9
Genesis sedan/4.6-liter V8/4012/195.9
Genesis Coupe/2.0-liter turbo/3303/182.3
Genesis Coupe/3.8-liter V6/3402/182.3

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Vehicle/Length/Curb Weight (lbs.)/Horsepower/Power-to-weight ratio
Genesis Coupe 3.8/182.3/340/310 (est.)/11.0
BMW 335i/181.1/3571/300/11.9
Infiniti G37/183.1/3616/330/11.0
Camaro LS/190./3780/300 (est.)/12.6
Challenger/197.7/3819/250/15.3

Look at this Nav Package!!! Do I spot internet function?

INTERNET???

PICTIONARY?!?!

Links to above pictures
?????-????.

Epik · 01-10-2009, 03:27 AM

RCZ · 01-04-2009, 04:00 PM

I just realized that thing doesn't look THAT bad with some mods....if it had an infiniti badge on it...it would sell like hotcakes...

bossman · 01-04-2009, 04:26 PM

I don't get why you guys are bashing? Whenever bimmer owners try to belittle you and say "it's just a nissan" you get mad and say their ignorant and what not yet you are doing the same thing right now.. Nissan tries so hard to be like bmw/porsche.. just like Hyundai is trying hard to be like Nissan/Infiniti. If they don't set a benchmark to compete with, how will they ever get a better rep?

The Geek · 01-04-2009, 04:59 PM

I think it comes down to looks, stock speed, rarity, and future value...

Same situation (on a higher scale) with a Viper...Buy a Viper Coupe for around $90,000 or buy a Z06 for around $65,000 and spend about $8,000 to make it quicker...No matter what the Viper will be worth more and less rare in 10 years.

When it comes down to it, I think the 370z will easily turn more heads then any Hyundai ever will. Not to mention they (just a guess) will be less 370z's on the road then the Genesis.

Alexus · 01-04-2009, 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by The Geek

When it comes down to it, I think the 370z will easily turn more heads then any Hyundai ever will. Not to mention they (just a guess) will be less 370z's on the road then the Genesis.

I have not seen any Genesis sedans on the road yet here and for some reason or another the local populace around here seems to appreciate Hyundai. I'm guessing the Genesis in general will be a rare car and it will definitely turn heads.

The company has come a long way and is making more and more reliable cars. I would definitely buy the Genesis coupe if I wasn't in the market for higher-end sports cars such as the Z or G37. The Genesis coupe will definitely be a lot of bang for the buck if you can get over the Hyundai tag. Any company that can get Brembo and ZF to specially design parts for their cars is definitely up-and-coming. The Genesis coupe is an impressive car and those that fail to accept this don't know their ****. There was a time where I would say I would never drive a Nissan (because of Datsun) and now, I'm in the market for one.

There are rumors of Hyundai preparing to release a luxury brand some time in the next couple of years. I will definitely be looking into it when and if that brand comes out though I think the timing couldn't be any more awful.

Mythos219 · 01-04-2009, 06:04 PM

Genesis Coupe is actually not bad looking and has decent numbers. I'd get it. But I'd strip off all the Hyundai badging and leave it bare. They are making better cars but its going to take a while for that first impression to wear off.

The Geek · 01-04-2009, 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Alexus

I have not seen any Genesis sedans on the road yet here and for some reason or another the local populace around here seems to appreciate Hyundai. I'm guessing the Genesis in general will be a rare car and it will definitely turn heads.

The company has come a long way and is making more and more reliable cars. I would definitely buy the Genesis coupe if I wasn't in the market for higher-end sports cars such as the Z or G37. The Genesis coupe will definitely be a lot of bang for the buck if you can get over the Hyundai tag. Any company that can get Brembo and ZF to specially design parts for their cars is definitely up-and-coming. The Genesis coupe is an impressive car and those that fail to accept this don't know their ****. There was a time where I would say I would never drive a Nissan (because of Datsun) and now, I'm in the market for one.

There are rumors of Hyundai preparing to release a luxury brand some time in the next couple of years. I will definitely be looking into it when and if that brand comes out though I think the timing couldn't be any more awful.

I couldn't aggree more. The Genesis coupe is pretty impressive and a great bang for the buck. The problem, around here at least, will be getting over the Hyundai tag.

Epik · 02-15-2009, 06:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Alexus

The company has come a long way and is making more and more reliable cars. I would definitely buy the Genesis coupe if I wasn't in the market for higher-end sports cars such as the Z or G37. The Genesis coupe will definitely be a lot of bang for the buck if you can get over the Hyundai tag. Any company that can get Brembo and ZF to specially design parts for their cars is definitely up-and-coming. The Genesis coupe is an impressive car and those that fail to accept this don't know their ****. There was a time where I would say I would never drive a Nissan (because of Datsun) and now, I'm in the market for one.

There are rumors of Hyundai preparing to release a luxury brand some time in the next couple of years. I will definitely be looking into it when and if that brand comes out though I think the timing couldn't be any more awful.

Hyundai's reliability is way better than some think. Especially the newer years.

Hyundai ranked at 8th in the most recent (Dec 08) Consumer Report reliability survey. That's up 7 steps from last year. The only non-premium brands that did better than Hyundai are...

Scion: 1st
Honda: 3rd
Toyota: 4th
Subaru: 7th

Kia is the real big winner though, as it's ranked at 10th, up whopping 12 steps from last year.

Nissan was ranked at 14th and Nissan's reliability isn't bad at all This is at least the second year that Hyundai did better than Nissan, and this year it's not even close.

"The two closely related South Korean nameplates, Hyundai and Kia, rank right up there with the better Japanese makers. Most of their models scored average or better, with only the Hyundai Entourage and Kia Sedona minivans receiving below-average scores."

Here's some info on the R-Spec version

Hyundai Debuts a High-Performance Blank Canvas for Tuners: Genesis Coupe R-Spec

CHICAGO, Feb. 11 /PRNewswire/ -- When the colors of your new turbocharged rear-wheel-drive sport coupe are named after international racing circuits, you'd better have the performance and confidence to back it up. Now, Hyundai is upping the ante by announcing an R-Spec version of the all-new 2010 Genesis Coupe, designed to appeal to true enthusiasts who want a low starting price and the ability to tune their car to their own specifications. R-Spec will be available as a mid-2010 model year introduction.

R-Spec provides genuine track-readiness in an affordable model. The R-Spec adds core performance equipment to the most affordable 2.0T model, such as: Track-tuned suspension, 19-inch gunmetal-finish alloy wheels with performance summer tires, Brembo(R) braking system, Torsen limited-slip differential, and R-Spec badging. To further reduce cost and weight, it also eliminates some non-essential convenience equipment such as: Bluetooth(R), automatic headlights, cruise control, trip computer, chrome interior accents and steering wheel audio controls. The Genesis Coupe R-Spec will be priced at $23,750 and $3,000 less than the 2.0T Track model, leaving tuners with extra cash for their own choice of aftermarket performance upgrades. Appropriately, the R-Spec will be available in three performance oriented exteriors colors: Karussell White, Bathurst Black and Tsukuba Red.

R-Spec equipment includes:

2.0-liter low-pressure turbocharged intercooled four-cylinder engine with dual continuously variable valve timing delivering 210-hp, an estimated 30 mpg EPA highway rating and a top speed of 137 mph
6-speed close-ratio manual transmission
Electronic Stability Control with Traction control, ABS, Electronic Brake-Force Distribution and Brake Assist
19-inch gunmetal-finish alloy wheels with staggered-width high-performance summer-compound Bridgestone Potenza RE050A tires (225/40YR19 front, 245/40YR19 rear)
Brembo(R) braking system with 13.4-inch ventilated front rotors, 42mm four-piston fixed front calipers (red), 13.0-inch ventilated rear rotors, 32mm+28mm four-piston fixed rear calipers (red)
Track-tuned suspension (higher-rate coil springs, higher-control shock absorbers, 25mm front stabilizer bar, 22mm rear stabilizer bar, front strut brace)
Torsen-type limited-slip differential
R-Spec badging
Quick-ratio hydraulic steering (2.7 turns lock-to-lock)
Tire Pressure Monitoring System
Front, side, side air curtain air bags
Active front head restraints
Driver's lumbar support
Air conditioning
Remote keyless entry system
Leather-wrapped steering wheel and shift knob
Power windows (one-touch up and down), door locks and mirrors
AM/FM/XM/MP3/CD audio system with six speakers
iPod/USB/Aux jack connectivity
Projector beam headlamps
Lightweight temporary spare with aluminum wheel (T135/80D18)
Note: Automatic transmission not available with R-Spec

Rhys Millen will be participating in the 09 Formula Drift season, Pikes Peak, and Redline Time Attack with the 550hp Genesis Coupe.

"According to Hyundai, the goal is a 2,400-pound curb weight for Millen's drifter. That's down almost 1,000 pounds from the stock 3,397-pound Genesis coupe.

The Red Bull Hyundai Genesis coupe drift car should debut during the first Formula D event at the Long Beach Grand Prix, April 16-19, 2009.

Inside Line says: If successful, Millen's motorsports campaign could be a catalyst for the new Genesis coupe's popularity with young American car enthusiasts. It has the potential to be the new car of choice for the tuner set, taking its place alongside the Mitsubishi Evo and Subaru Impreza WRX. — John Pearley Huffman"

It'll be interesting to see how it does in April.

zsport1 · 02-15-2009, 07:38 PM

Who cares.

12-28-2008, 01:00 PM	#2 (permalink)
drmike Enthusiast Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Kern Co., California Age: 54 Posts: 356 Drives: '03 Mini S+'94 Miata Rep Power: 17	Coming from a Euro-centric background (my '94 Miata was/is my first non-Euro car, and I made it to age 34, three years ago, before buying that) I just don't have the hang-ups about which brand, or whether it is Korean or Japanese, or whatever. To be fair, all of my friends will think I've gone nuts if I buy anything other than a German car (they don't respect the many years I spent with Alfas I guess), so peer pressure is the same (and ignored, thanks) regardless. I think the Genesis is a great-looking car, and the tuners will have a lot of fun with them. They should get awfully mean on the track when stripped out, too. BUT Somehow it's still not for me. It's still lesser than other cars I could spend my future dollars on. Maybe it is the economy brand specter, after all. Or maybe the engineer in me still sees the 370Z as the superior car (not to mention even better-looking). I'd enjoy driving around in a Genesis. But I will, someday, cherish my 370Z. __________________ txwerks.com (side biz) xcor.com (main biz)

01-04-2009, 04:06 PM	#5 (permalink)
shumby Captin Canuck Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: with your mom Age: 45 Posts: 6,288 Drives: your sister Rep Power: 237	^^^ agreed __________________ Originally Posted by SAM@GTM Engine detonation is not normal and it should never never happen, and whoever told that need to do something else for living . Sam

12-28-2008, 10:25 AM	#1 (permalink)
Alexus Base Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Montreal, QC Posts: 178 Drives: The Beast Rep Power: 17	Although I have to agree it's an awesome-looking and powerful car, not to mention a good tuning platform, I do not see myself spending 35-45k on a G37 look-alike, much less on a Hyundai. Sorry, but I'd be caught dead running around in a Hyundai no matter how awesome they're becoming.

01-04-2009, 02:43 AM	#3 (permalink)
Pushing_Tin A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Eugene, OR Posts: 2,875 Drives: E63 AMG Rep Power: 228	I like it, except for the grill. But I'm sure the aftermarket will come out with something better looking.

01-04-2009, 09:00 AM	#4 (permalink)
Epik Base Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: U.S. Posts: 25 Drives: 07 535i Rep Power: 0	Looking very good.

01-10-2009, 03:27 AM	#7 (permalink)
Epik Base Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: U.S. Posts: 25 Drives: 07 535i Rep Power: 0

01-04-2009, 04:00 PM	#8 (permalink)
RCZ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Miami Posts: 6,403 Drives: '09 370Z Rep Power: 1119	I just realized that thing doesn't look THAT bad with some mods....if it had an infiniti badge on it...it would sell like hotcakes...

01-04-2009, 04:26 PM	#9 (permalink)
bossman Banned Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Hawaii Posts: 169 Drives: 04 Xterra SE 4X4 S/C Rep Power: 0	I don't get why you guys are bashing? Whenever bimmer owners try to belittle you and say "it's just a nissan" you get mad and say their ignorant and what not yet you are doing the same thing right now.. Nissan tries so hard to be like bmw/porsche.. just like Hyundai is trying hard to be like Nissan/Infiniti. If they don't set a benchmark to compete with, how will they ever get a better rep?

01-04-2009, 04:59 PM	#10 (permalink)
The Geek Base Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: WV Posts: 100 Drives: 07 Honda Civic Rep Power: 17	I think it comes down to looks, stock speed, rarity, and future value... Same situation (on a higher scale) with a Viper...Buy a Viper Coupe for around $90,000 or buy a Z06 for around $65,000 and spend about $8,000 to make it quicker...No matter what the Viper will be worth more and less rare in 10 years. When it comes down to it, I think the 370z will easily turn more heads then any Hyundai ever will. Not to mention they (just a guess) will be less 370z's on the road then the Genesis.

01-04-2009, 06:04 PM	#12 (permalink)
Mythos219 Base Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: USA Posts: 85 Drives: 06G35c,07FX,99G20t Rep Power: 17	Genesis Coupe is actually not bad looking and has decent numbers. I'd get it. But I'd strip off all the Hyundai badging and leave it bare. They are making better cars but its going to take a while for that first impression to wear off.

02-15-2009, 07:38 PM	#15 (permalink)
zsport1 Base Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: TEXAS Posts: 224 Drives: 300 Rep Power: 17	Who cares.