Genesis Vs. 370Z

tvfreakazoid · 02-17-2009, 04:14 AM

I have to admit they it does look pretty good.

zsport1 · 02-16-2009, 06:51 PM

Better shot of the front.

zsport1 · 02-17-2009, 12:23 PM

The Z is a far better looking car than the Genesis. Sorry.

semtex · 02-17-2009, 01:12 PM

Good point!

370sed · 02-17-2009, 02:59 PM

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The airbag covers are intact, which means no airbag deployment. The airbag covers split in the midde (into top and bottom halves) when the airbag deploys, so it's not possible to "push" the airbag back into the steering wheel. Besides, unless it was refolded correctly, there's no way you could get it to fit back in there anyway. It's kind of like packing a parachute.

I saw this when it first hit the net, and read every article I could find on it, most of them bashing Hyundai for the airbags not deploying because they have no idea whatsoever about how the SRS system works. The airbag control module is the "brain" of the airbag system. It uses input from the various impact sensors (angle of impact, velocity), as well as occupant information (weight, seating position, seatbelt use, etc) to determine whether or not to fire the airbags in a collision, which ones to fire, etc. The airbag system is a SUPPLEMENTAL restraint system, meant to work as a means of restraint secondary to seat belt usage. The seatbelt holds you in the proper position for airbag deployment. I know from reading the articles on this accident that neither occupant was wearing a seatbelt at the time of the accident, and that both were severely injured. You can see the force with which the driver hit the steering wheel, as evidenced by the bend at the top. The driver likely suffered severe chest/abdomen/head injuries. As bad as that is, however, the SRS control module took all of these factors into consideration and determined that it was safest NOT to deploy the airbags in this particular accident. Had the airbags deployed, the unrestrained forward momentum of the driver and passenger colliding with the force of the deploying airbags certainly would have killed them both. It is sad that they were injured, but this is why there are warnings in the owner's manual and in the car stating that you can be killed or injured if the airbags deploy and you aren't wearing your seatbelt.

NIZMOZ · 02-18-2009, 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by 370sed

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That is most likely what happened after reading it. No seat belts probably told the system no airbags. Makes sense.

CrownR426 · 02-18-2009, 10:24 AM

Damn...
So looks like motherland country is steppin up their game!
But failed...

NIZMOZ · 02-19-2009, 09:43 AM

True, it doesn't have to be directly head on, but the sensor either way has to be impacted, if it isn't which is less likely from a offset collision it will go off.

zsport1 · 02-19-2009, 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by NIZMOZ

True, it doesn't have to be directly head on, but the sensor either way has to be impacted, if it isn't which is less likely from a offset collision it will go off.

With an impact that rips the front end off the car the airbags should have gone off for sure.

NIZMOZ · 02-19-2009, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by zsport1

With an impact that rips the front end off the car the airbags should have gone off for sure.

Not if the sensor isn't crushed in the accident. The Sensor is mounted usually on the radiator support behind the bumper itself in the middle of the car.

But on this car it should have went off because the front of the car where the sensor usually is was pushed far enough back that there was no reason for it not to go off unless it's because of the seat belts then that might be why.

zsport1 · 02-19-2009, 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by NIZMOZ

Not if the sensor isn't crushed in the accident. The Sensor is mounted usually on the radiator support behind the bumper itself in the middle of the car.

Now you are an airbag specialist? I bet you took one of those blind Nissan surveys....

semtex · 02-19-2009, 10:58 AM

This is informative:

What You Need to Know About Air Bags, DOT HS 809 575

NIZMOZ · 02-19-2009, 01:55 PM

Ahhh gotcha.... No idea on that one.

Epik · 02-19-2009, 02:02 PM

So the bags didn't deploy because it would've done more harm since the driver wasn't wearing his seat belt?

Lug · 02-19-2009, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Epik

So the bags didn't deploy because it would've done more harm since the driver wasn't wearing his seat belt?

Could be. Positive seat belt signal means the driver and passenger are oriented in the correct direction to go face first into the airbag. If you are not wearing a setbelt you could be reaching over the back seat, turned around, etc. I have no idea if that is the actual reason, just thinking out loud. Seems more like lawsuit concerns than safety at that point, though.

02-17-2009, 04:14 AM	#1 (permalink)
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02-17-2009, 12:23 PM	#3 (permalink)
zsport1 Base Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: TEXAS Posts: 224 Drives: 300 Rep Power: 17	The Z is a far better looking car than the Genesis. Sorry. Last edited by zsport1; 02-17-2009 at 02:19 PM.

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semtex A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Behind enemy lines Age: 55 Posts: 5,995 Drives: People to drink Rep Power: 33	Good point! __________________ "There are no small accidents on this circuit." -- Ayrton Senna 316.8whp & 248 ft/lbs (Dyno Dynamics) \| 319whp & 256 ft/lbs (DynoJet) (04/23/10) Stillen G3 CAI, CBE, Pulley / F.I. LTH / GTSpec Ladder Brace / Setrab Oil Cooler / UpRev-tuned by Forged Perf.

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02-19-2009, 09:43 AM	#8 (permalink)
NIZMOZ Track Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 634 Drives: 07 NISMO 350Z SA M6 Rep Power: 491	True, it doesn't have to be directly head on, but the sensor either way has to be impacted, if it isn't which is less likely from a offset collision it will go off. __________________ SOLD: 2007 NISMO 350Z #0044 Silver Alloy New DD: 2010 Titan Pro4X CC

02-16-2009, 06:51 PM	#2 (permalink)
zsport1 Base Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: TEXAS Posts: 224 Drives: 300 Rep Power: 17	Better shot of the front.

02-19-2009, 10:58 AM	#12 (permalink)
semtex A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Behind enemy lines Age: 55 Posts: 5,995 Drives: People to drink Rep Power: 33	This is informative: What You Need to Know About Air Bags, DOT HS 809 575 __________________ "There are no small accidents on this circuit." -- Ayrton Senna 316.8whp & 248 ft/lbs (Dyno Dynamics) \| 319whp & 256 ft/lbs (DynoJet) (04/23/10) Stillen G3 CAI, CBE, Pulley / F.I. LTH / GTSpec Ladder Brace / Setrab Oil Cooler / UpRev-tuned by Forged Perf.

02-19-2009, 01:55 PM	#13 (permalink)
NIZMOZ Track Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 634 Drives: 07 NISMO 350Z SA M6 Rep Power: 491	Ahhh gotcha.... No idea on that one. __________________ SOLD: 2007 NISMO 350Z #0044 Silver Alloy New DD: 2010 Titan Pro4X CC

02-19-2009, 02:02 PM	#14 (permalink)
Epik Base Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: U.S. Posts: 25 Drives: 07 535i Rep Power: 0	So the bags didn't deploy because it would've done more harm since the driver wasn't wearing his seat belt?