A letter I wrote to Nissan north america (with reply)

nmjaxx9 · 08-22-2012, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by VDC_OFF

please dont compare a 370Z to a mustang again. If someone asked me to trade a 400-500hp mustang for my 300whp Z, I would slap them in the face.

Z's have been getting faster every year but still horsepower isnt everything. I take my Z to events and the power it makes is perfect, considering a turbo kit less and less everyday. Feels like a strive to just be the fastest, but there is always someone faster. At some point you just need to enjoy what you have just for the fact that it does the job and makes you happy

Im sorry that made me LAUGH OUT LOUD

no disrespect to mustang owners as there are some owners and fan nuts on this site,

but I agree there will always be faster, hence you have to balance out the pros and cons, and take some sacrifices to drive What you like,as long as you are happy driving it.

Streetlife · 08-22-2012, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by VDC_OFF

please dont compare a 370Z to a mustang again. If someone asked me to trade a 400-500hp mustang for my 300whp Z, I would slap them in the face.

Z's have been getting faster every year but still horsepower isnt everything. I take my Z to events and the power it makes is perfect, considering a turbo kit less and less everyday. Feels like a strive to just be the fastest, but there is always someone faster. At some point you just need to enjoy what you have just for the fact that it does the job and makes you happy

blackcherry20 · 08-22-2012, 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by shadoquad

I wrote Nissan a letter, told them I missed them, scented the paper, and sealed it with a kiss. I also sent them more boudoir shots of myself. They never write me back, but I've come to know their legal team pretty well.

Shado-always the frontrunner eh?!

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Originally Posted by Mt Tam I am

Who will be the first to open a 2014 370Z speculation thread.

I think it's happening right now Tam!

UNKNOWN_370 · 08-22-2012, 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by w0rM

That would certainly be a first for Nissan. I don't know of any time they updated a model one year and then redesigned it the next.

hey sorta did it with the 07 G35 coupe. Its the only year with the vq35hr, before 08 showed a full redesign. It wasn't a full redesign but interior was upgraded with a whole new engine that ran only 1 yr in the G But he could be playing word games. 2014 would be the year of the 2015 model year.

I did find this... a supposed sketch of the next Z with alleged info.

Nissan Z 2015: Towards a Descent Range (Mechanical)?

UNKNOWN_370 · 08-22-2012, 08:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VDC_OFF

please dont compare a 370Z to a mustang again. If someone asked me to trade a 400-500hp mustang for my 300whp Z, I would slap them in the face.

Z's have been getting faster every year but still horsepower isnt everything. I take my Z to events and the power it makes is perfect, considering a turbo kit less and less everyday. Feels like a strive to just be the fastest, but there is always someone faster. At some point you just need to enjoy what you have just for the fact that it does the job and makes you happy

well said.

repped

w0rM · 08-22-2012, 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

hey sorta did it with the 07 G35 coupe. Its the only year with the vq35hr, before 08 showed a full redesign. It wasn't a full redesign but interior was upgraded with a whole new engine that ran only 1 yr in the G

Really, the only difference between the DE and the HR motor was the intake manifold but it's a good point. However, while they were doing that to the G, the Z keep the HR for an additional year and didn't get a full redesign until the 370z came out in 2009.

HKYStormFront · 08-22-2012, 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by w0rM

Really, the only difference between the DE and the HR motor was the intake manifold but it's a good point. However, while they were doing that to the G, the Z keep the HR for an additional year and didn't get a full redesign until the 370z came out in 2009.

you sure about that? i'm pretty darn positive the block was almost a complete redesign. it had improved coolant and oil flow, reinforced bottom end and several other changes. from what i've heard it was almost a completely different engine just based on the original VQ design

Joepro · 08-22-2012, 09:38 PM

I have not got my 370 yet(long story of difficulty selling my 350), but highly considered getting the 5.0, my auto group has ford and I could get a killer deal...Our HR office is attached to the ford showroom and I was down there for an appt and they have a 13 gt on the showroom floor (and 2 gt500s outside?) and I had a spare moment...what am I looking for in my next sports car; performance, handling, style? Well the mustang certainly has both the first 2, performance and handling(it does, lets stop denying it), but 20 seconds on the inside I wanted out...back seats, retro styling, ugh, it’s just not me, sure the track apps are cool, but how many crashed stangs are going to be the result of those... Given its flaws, the Z car is well, me...I am a Honda guy though and through, I work for Honda, but they just have not delivered anything like the Z car...sure the s2k, if you like a convertible and you are 5 foot 7 and 130 lbs, you’ll like it just fine...anyway, I will stop there, we are a different breed, when you need a blended car with my criteria, the Z is right there, and will always be there. I knew the short comings and issues of the 350 when I bought it, but it just clicked with me. I will be able to buy a used Z for as little as 25k with the options and mileage I want, do 10k of mods if I so choose, and be right at or above the level of performance of a full bolt on 5.0(my research shows low 400 whp), but guess what, I just might leave this one NA, it’s fun having a "slower" car that requires the driver to push the car’s limits to compete with the others, that my friends is the real challenge. I have dragged my Z at the local strip a few times and have turned in abysmal 13.6-14.2s on 245 nankangs, but guess what, I beat 3 stangs(04 and 2 2010s) and a c5 vette in one day…figure that one out, and lost to a new camaro ss by .2 seconds, even in a stock 370z I would have taken him or at least matched it…Power is Not everything, VDC, well said.

ps, the letter does sound a bit canned, sorry, it just does.

TypeOne · 08-23-2012, 09:04 AM

That sounds like a pretty generic response honestly, not an open invitation to send them all of your ideas as to what the cars should be.

In all reality, they have already designed the car and have made the changes. You can't redesign and build a new car in a year... so I would be willing to bet the people over at Nissan have a handle on it.

UNKNOWN_370 · 08-23-2012, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by HKYStormFront

you sure about that? i'm pretty darn positive the block was almost a complete redesign. it had improved coolant and oil flow, reinforced bottom end and several other changes. from what i've heard it was almost a completely different engine just based on the original VQ design

UNKNOWN_370 · 08-23-2012, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Joepro

I have not got my 370 yet(long story of difficulty selling my 350), but highly considered getting the 5.0, my auto group has ford and I could get a killer deal...Our HR office is attached to the ford showroom and I was down there for an appt and they have a 13 gt on the showroom floor (and 2 gt500s outside?) and I had a spare moment...what am I looking for in my next sports car; performance, handling, style? Well the mustang certainly has both the first 2, performance and handling(it does, lets stop denying it), but 20 seconds on the inside I wanted out...back seats, retro styling, ugh, it’s just not me, sure the track apps are cool, but how many crashed stangs are going to be the result of those... Given its flaws, the Z car is well, me...I am a Honda guy though and through, I work for Honda, but they just have not delivered anything like the Z car...sure the s2k, if you like a convertible and you are 5 foot 7 and 130 lbs, you’ll like it just fine...anyway, I will stop there, we are a different breed, when you need a blended car with my criteria, the Z is right there, and will always be there. I knew the short comings and issues of the 350 when I bought it, but it just clicked with me. I will be able to buy a used Z for as little as 25k with the options and mileage I want, do 10k of mods if I so choose, and be right at or above the level of performance of a full bolt on 5.0(my research shows low 400 whp), but guess what, I just might leave this one NA, it’s fun having a "slower" car that requires the driver to push the car’s limits to compete with the others, that my friends is the real challenge. I have dragged my Z at the local strip a few times and have turned in abysmal 13.6-14.2s on 245 nankangs, but guess what, I beat 3 stangs(04 and 2 2010s) and a c5 vette in one day…figure that one out, and lost to a new camaro ss by .2 seconds, even in a stock 370z I would have taken him or at least matched it…Power is Not everything, VDC, well said.

ps, the letter does sound a bit canned, sorry, it just does.

If you go stang??? Do it right? a gold n black boss302

Waiz · 08-23-2012, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by TypeOne

That sounds like a pretty generic response honestly, not an open invitation to send them all of your ideas as to what the cars should be.

In all reality, they have already designed the car and have made the changes. You can't redesign and build a new car in a year... so I would be willing to be the people over at Nissan has a handle on it.

You basically said the same thing I did lol

TypeOne · 08-23-2012, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Waizzz

You basically said the same thing I did lol

I didn't read any of the other comments after I read the first one.

Waiz · 08-23-2012, 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by TypeOne

I didn't read any of the other comments after I read the first one.

Well like nearly every thread that is in this section it was all offtopic and had nothing to do with the OP so you can disregard them lol

brucelidat · 08-23-2012, 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

hey sorta did it with the 07 G35 coupe. Its the only year with the vq35hr, before 08 showed a full redesign. It wasn't a full redesign but interior was upgraded with a whole new engine that ran only 1 yr in the G But he could be playing word games. 2014 would be the year of the 2015 model year.

I did find this... a supposed sketch of the next Z with alleged info.

Nissan Z 2015: Towards a Descent Range (Mechanical)?

That was one of the most poorly written articles I have ever read. The poor english made my head hurt ta times.

08-22-2012, 09:38 PM	#38 (permalink)
Joepro A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Athens ohio Posts: 1,213 Drives: Company car Rep Power: 33	I have not got my 370 yet(long story of difficulty selling my 350), but highly considered getting the 5.0, my auto group has ford and I could get a killer deal...Our HR office is attached to the ford showroom and I was down there for an appt and they have a 13 gt on the showroom floor (and 2 gt500s outside?) and I had a spare moment...what am I looking for in my next sports car; performance, handling, style? Well the mustang certainly has both the first 2, performance and handling(it does, lets stop denying it), but 20 seconds on the inside I wanted out...back seats, retro styling, ugh, it’s just not me, sure the track apps are cool, but how many crashed stangs are going to be the result of those... Given its flaws, the Z car is well, me...I am a Honda guy though and through, I work for Honda, but they just have not delivered anything like the Z car...sure the s2k, if you like a convertible and you are 5 foot 7 and 130 lbs, you’ll like it just fine...anyway, I will stop there, we are a different breed, when you need a blended car with my criteria, the Z is right there, and will always be there. I knew the short comings and issues of the 350 when I bought it, but it just clicked with me. I will be able to buy a used Z for as little as 25k with the options and mileage I want, do 10k of mods if I so choose, and be right at or above the level of performance of a full bolt on 5.0(my research shows low 400 whp), but guess what, I just might leave this one NA, it’s fun having a "slower" car that requires the driver to push the car’s limits to compete with the others, that my friends is the real challenge. I have dragged my Z at the local strip a few times and have turned in abysmal 13.6-14.2s on 245 nankangs, but guess what, I beat 3 stangs(04 and 2 2010s) and a c5 vette in one day…figure that one out, and lost to a new camaro ss by .2 seconds, even in a stock 370z I would have taken him or at least matched it…Power is Not everything, VDC, well said. ps, the letter does sound a bit canned, sorry, it just does. __________________ Swift\|Koni\|SPC\| FI CBE\|Z1\|Stillen\|Sbend\|Zspeed\|R/T Tuned\|523 whp\|458 tq\|10.5 psi\|SOLD Joepro's Journal\|Joepro's Boosted Performance Build \|Pittsburgh-Western-Pa-Ohio-Wv-Group

08-23-2012, 09:04 AM	#39 (permalink)
TypeOne A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Baton Rouge, LA Posts: 2,682 Drives: BSM 370 Rep Power: 1850	That sounds like a pretty generic response honestly, not an open invitation to send them all of your ideas as to what the cars should be. In all reality, they have already designed the car and have made the changes. You can't redesign and build a new car in a year... so I would be willing to bet the people over at Nissan have a handle on it. Last edited by TypeOne; 08-23-2012 at 11:55 AM.

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