I'm not a huge drifter, either. While I like it when occasionally I have to correct a skid from the back tires coming out, it's not a way of life for me. I prefer mountains of grip and expedient corner ingress/egress

You and me both.

I'd give anything to put any of these negative Z reviewers in my passenger seat.

If i could have whipped a muscle car as hard as a Z I would have bought one.... But i couldn't. so i didn't buy one. a muscle car is a fat pig, not a Z. I grew up inside cars like the FT86, mitsubishi conquest-starion, 280z, rx7, supra, celica, and 200sx. I know you can toss a car like that as equal as in a Z.
The difference in the Z, is you feel like you're going to kill yourself doing it, but then you recover like a champion. But if i dont feel like that???? Why the fukk should i drive a car like this???? little cars make you feel like your doing 80 when you're doing 40. in the Z youre doing 100mph when you think you're doing 70mph.
The FR-S is great for feeling like a daredevil at granny speeds, while the Z you're a daredevil at evil lawbreaking speed. the Z DOWNSIDE... some heft. The Z upside, you can reach 155mph at exotic car times.
FR-S downside, no power on tap when really needed unless you floor that b1tch. The FR-S upside, you feel like a drift champion at 35mph.
FRS is an everyday mans sports car... a learning car. The Z is true sport ready with 2k in modification. 2k will barely scratch the surface on an frs...

I've taken my Z and changed the tires out for 185 R14's! Then I added a governor! It is now a true enthusiests car!

you are right :tiphat:

i should've remembered that since i lived there in the 80s (but not old enough to drive at the time)

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thats pretty fvkkin funny. :icon18:

2009 370Z vs 2012 FT-86 - Fastest Laps.com

...and I quote "Nissan 370Z is noticeably faster."

4-5 second differences per lap puts these cars in completely different categories.

Fun ≠ Better

Lol at his comment saying "if you want performance, this isn't the car for you" :icon17:

lmao thats what i said, but i guess being able to break traction pulling out of your drive way matters more.

The vid did make me want to get a used Cayman though.

that is until you lose a motor or see the repair bill

I've been thinking about getting a Cayman S for a while now.. They aren't bad deals with low mileage.

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Yeah pretty much. :icon17:

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Some of his points are valid, but to be honest most British reviews of Zeds as they call them have not been very favorable through out the years... So this isn't shocking at all....

I speak from experience when I say there's nothing more frustrating than when swarms of people who don't agree with one of your reviews justify their opposing opinions by accusing you of being bias or, even more annoying, paid. I've had this said about me so many times, and it's simply never been true. I wish it were true. I need the cash. :)

I wouldn't say Harris is bias, and I certainly wouldn't undermine his journalistic integrity by suggesting his review was paid for, but as I said, I do feel like this particular review set out to champion the FR-S at the expense of the Z. Like he said, he's had loads of people say "but you can buy a *insert faster used car* for the same price" - an argument which has probably wound him up so much that he specifically made this feature to counter that argument.

No biggie though - still a great review, and I hope for more comparison reviews like this in future.

Well put

:icon18: :bowrofl:

Well they try to pass aston martins and jags off as serious performance cars. While performance is great on those cars, Revviewers aren't choosing them over ferrari, porsche, lambo and even the R8 and GTR. The brits gotta hate on someone. Lol

Unknown you sound like the ultimate z fanboy in all your posts..

C'mon. Given the choice between a Vantage (even the lowly V8) and a Z, don't tell me you'd pick the Z over it -- assuming free insurance and gas for your entire ownership :driving:

You sound like a Troll in all your posts... Go Figure. I know there's some Z hating OG's up in here you tryin to kizz azz tobut i'd slow ya role right here n now...

First off, Fanboys haven't driven different cars in the range. I have rented most of the hottest sports cars out there now or have test driven them. From corvette, camaro, mustang, challenger eclipse, as rentals. I've test driven gecoupe, evo 135I porache cayman, 335I, and a couple months ago, the STi. So I know something about how most these cars feel. I haven't knocked any of these cars for what they are. All I have said, while all of these cars may have some advantages over the Z. As an overall package I find the Z to be compelling thus far.
Less refined and more brutish than a cayman. Can jump pff the line faster than a challenger R/T, gives more feedback than a mustang and faster than the more acrobatic lightweights. The Z though not a master of ANY, it has the jack of all trades title and combines everything other cars can do well and gives 90% of various driving experiences.

How is that being a fanboi? A funboi sukks a cars exhaust before knowing what he bought. Buys it, worships it for 3 months, then Trolls it out the second he finds a new car
To fanboy...
Learn to rent possible cars, and get good enough credit to warrant getting solo 2 hour long test drives, and you don't have to resort to calling someone who's driven every car you wish you can touch a fanboy.:gtfo2:

What???? I'm not comparing a Z to a vantage. I compared it to ferrari's and porsches??? U buggin.
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I'm just saying brits just hate cuz they don't hav e a top car in the sports world. But id take ANY EXOTIC.

The z has many flaws in stock form, not worth the price tag. Modifying it to even be legit on a track puts you in cayman, boss 302, m3 category.

YOU CANT DENY THAT

You're definitely spending a good chunk on mods, but I don't think it's going to put you into the new cayman S or M3 price range. We're talking almost 30k in mods! I can't even think of enough mod sot hit that mark.

A 24,000 car is more fun than a $35,000-40k car by every reviewer so far.
Horrible sale numbers

Nissan = fail. Me= dumbass for leasing this crap for 3 years

My Z will run on any track with about 2k in mods I done to the car. 1k on brakes, 700 on suspension and. 400 on an oil cooler. So I'm not sure what you're talking about. The Z runs fine on tracks, on roads, @ 150mph. Instead of going for the gusto on intake and FI exhausts like most pre-fabricated fanboi's why not spend a couple of grand on vital mods. Your mentality is simple and underwhelming. All cars need some modification. Even the other competition.

....stop letting reviews make your opinion. Go drive the frs and compare it to your car.

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just go give it back, tell them you're a dumbass and you fuckeed up

lol. Seriously though, the V8 vantage is closer to the Z's performance numbers than, say, a 458 Italia, so the comparison on performance metrics is not inappropriate. But the biggest difference between the other exotics you mention and the Aston is that their cars are GTs and as such are not really competing with your Lambos and 458s -- though the 911 is too close to call as to whether it is more GT than sports car.

You knowu can lease trade???? If your dealership has other brands you can bargain with them and get out of the Z so you can go fanboi another site n STFU over here. What did you do trade in your sentra for a Z and now you can't get any loan outside of a Nmac loan or lease? Lol. You act so stuck when ur not unless ur credit is shyt.

can wait till he reports back on how much of an idiot he was for trading the Z!

Yeah but Frerrai makes a GT as well called the california... not as hyped as the overresonated italia. Don't get it twisted. The italia is my dream car. But Ferrari models get no love due to the italia.
I like the Z a lot. A few things about do piss me the fvkk off though. Not enough to hate the car cuz all cars will have a flaw. But I would call the Z a dream car. Not first on my list. Maybe second to last. But I love the Z.

In affordable rides that can be attained for under 60k is
The corvette GS
The BOSS 302 ONLY not GT
BMW 1M
370z
Mitsubishi evo/ Subie sti.

I have no order in this list. But I can tell yo the Z does a little bit of all. I prefer turbo'd cars way more than NA... yet I'm in a Z.

My favorite exotic, the italia, and aventador.

Fave median exotics cars are the cayman 911 R8 and GTR.

I would love to own every car mentioned. But in the meantime. The Z can hold more than its own as a complete driving experience.

I'm stuck with this car for 3 years, not trying to lose thousands in trading it in or getting out of lease. Hopefully in 3 years I can make a better decision before I get excited, you're right. Sure as hell won't be a Nissan

^^ Dude, are you trolling another thread about your poor decision making skills? Go kick rocks elsewhere!

If you hate the Z so much, why do you even hang around this forum? You're unhappy, fine. No nee dot continuously bring that negativity here. Coming onto the forum probably makes you even more upset so just don't come here.

You leased a car to drive it on a track? :ughdance:

I hate my car too (actually hate Nissan mainly), but there is no denying that it is a very fast car for the price