Saw a 2013 Z on the road today....

Rockhound

1. Other than lacking body-color fangs, the '13 bumper is far more contoured and modern than the 350Z bumper. The fangs were somewhat polarizing - guess what? I like both. You should see it in person to not sound so uninformed.

2. You seem oblivious to the concept of inflation. My particular Z saw a 1.5% price increase over the 2012. That's under year over year inflation (1.9%). You're getting awfully worked up over a (negotiable) ~$600 increase on a $40k car. Consumer goods experience price increase without "upgrades" (i.e., a gallon of milk).

3. The Z is still highly competitive to the Gen Coupe - even with the Hyundai's "vast improvements" it's still slower than the Z. If you ask me, Hyundai took a handsome design and ruined it with boi-racer hood scoops and a garish grille. The Gen Coupe's interior is now at least a step above Elantra quality.

4. I never cross-shopped the Z to the Camaro, regardless of stats. Also, see #3 re: interior design/quality. Z to Camaro is apples to oranges.

5. Yes, I would define your tone as "hate" - you just don't realize how much you sound like that 'Buddy' character you were bickering with.

Please explain why you saw the 2013 model year as do-or-die for Nissan to radically alter their low-volume sports coupe. A five year lifespan with subtle changes is not out of the norm. Unlike Apple, there isn't going to be a "all-new" model every couple years - this isn't an iPhone, it's a car.


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