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Curb weight est 3175 lb This is taken straight from road and track. I would love to know how car and driver got 400 more pounds added into it.

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Old 12-09-2008, 12:32 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Curb weight
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This is taken straight from road and track. I would love to know how car and driver got 400 more pounds added into it.
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Curb weight
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This is taken straight from road and track. I would love to know how car and driver got 400 more pounds added into it.
Who knows. For some reason I think the car is definately lighter. One of the reviews (SORRY can't remember which one), the reviewer commented how the car was definately lighter; he could feel it.
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exactly why I'm looking to move on......

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Straight line performance is good but kinda gets old in everyday driving. Once you drive a better handling car, you can never go back to softer mushy suspension cars, EVER!
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I've never NEVER liked cars with soft suspension. I like to feel the road and know where I am while I'm on it. Otherwise driving is just pointless, as I see it.
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Well, bottom line for me is base or fully loaded, the 135i is going to be $7-10K more, either way you look at it. The camero is just too heavy, and I can only imagine how much the dealer mark up is going to be in the SS version, prob the same like when the new Mustang Cobra came out.

I know this car wasn't mentioned by the OG poster, but I'm thinking the new 09 Z4 coupe will probably be the better one to compare to the Z. They are both 2 seaters and similar wheelbase, etc.
It will have the same 300hp motor as 135i, will be lighter, and base model about the same price. I'll bet that this will be one of the better performing/handling BMW's in the whole line, with the exception of some M models. It's sceduled to be unveiled around Dec 15th.

For me, it's the 370Z save my 8K for suspension upgrades and a twin turbo kit

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Minicobra, I completely agree that the Z4 will be the better car to compare the Z to. I posted over in the Motive review a Car and Driver link that compared the Cayman to the Z4M. It's figures also match the Z's pound for pound.

I am sure the 09 Z4 will be close also....
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Yeah, I'm basically down to the 370Z, Camaro SS, and Porsche. I thought about the BMW 135i, but that was ruled out.

You can speculate all you want, but I rather be patient and wait for the reviews to come out and compare the two. Sure, Camaro is 700 pounds heavier, but power to weight ratio, the Z is equal to it. I'm sure the Z can handle better, but someone test drove the V6 Camaro and said it was the best handling muscle car ever. So we'll see. I like both a lot. The 350Z was fun, but the one thing it doesn't and CAN'T have is a V8. V8s just sound gorgeous, and just have a great fun factor.

But my thing is I have two little kids, and I would like to every now and then pick them up from school. I can't with a two seater. Porsche might take the cake there. So we'll see. I still have till 2010 to make up my mind.
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BTW Camaro does .97g on the Skidpad. Aint the Cayman a 2-seater. (unless your thinking of a 911 )
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BTW Camaro does .97g on the Skidpad. Aint the Cayman a 2-seater. (unless your thinking of a 911 )
Where are you getting that information from? I didn't know anyone had published a test drive of the SS yet.

And yes, Porsche Carrera. Perhaps a used 07-08 model. I was thinking Cayman at first, but it's just a 2-seater.
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BTW Camaro does .97g on the Skidpad. Aint the Cayman a 2-seater. (unless your thinking of a 911 )
Holy crap I hope thats true
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Yeah, I'm basically down to the 370Z, Camaro SS, and Porsche. I thought about the BMW 135i, but that was ruled out.

You can speculate all you want, but I rather be patient and wait for the reviews to come out and compare the two. Sure, Camaro is 700 pounds heavier, but power to weight ratio, the Z is equal to it. I'm sure the Z can handle better, but someone test drove the V6 Camaro and said it was the best handling muscle car ever. So we'll see. I like both a lot. The 350Z was fun, but the one thing it doesn't and CAN'T have is a V8. V8s just sound gorgeous, and just have a great fun factor.

But my thing is I have two little kids, and I would like to every now and then pick them up from school. I can't with a two seater. Porsche might take the cake there. So we'll see. I still have till 2010 to make up my mind.
Camaro SS is a 4 seater
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Camaro SS is a 4 seater
Yes, I know. That's why the Camaro has some plus points. But it's also huge. That's where the 370Z has plus points.

But no rush to pick a winner... I'll wait for the reviews and all.
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Ehh, that's from Chevy. I don't count that until some real non-bias reviews are done on the car itself.
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Ehh, that's from Chevy. I don't count that until some real non-bias reviews are done on the car itself.
Yeh, like the ones from Top Gear and EVO.
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