2015 speculation

b1adesofcha0s · 07-26-2012, 12:23 PM

Yeah they already call it the Nissan Z Coupe/Roadster on their website.

DCNISMO · 07-26-2012, 02:47 PM

Remember that they have to warranty parts so that factors into the cost of factory forced induction and they have to train techs and get suppliers on line. They buy all that stuff and turbos and blowers are in short supply. Plus you guys in here would no doubt mod them for more boost. That leads to blown egnines and other issues. Audi for example took a bath on B5 S4 with blown turbos many times with no mods either.

Cmike2780 · 07-26-2012, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by DCNISMO

Remember that they have to warranty parts so that factors into the cost of factory forced induction and they have to train techs and get suppliers on line. They buy all that stuff and turbos and blowers are in short supply. Plus you guys in here would no doubt mod them for more boost. That leads to blown egnines and other issues. Audi for example took a bath on B5 S4 with blown turbos many times with no mods either.

Nissan has a long history with FI, not to mention there are already two models with turbos in the current lineup, the GT-R & Juke. The X-terra had a supercharged version for a a while also.

Jordo! · 07-26-2012, 03:44 PM

Make a new 300ZX -- would use a smaller, more fuel efficient V6, add a bigger turbo or two, DI, and shed 200 lbs. Give me same power with less weight, more torque, and factory boost.

That would work, no?

sfearl1 · 07-26-2012, 04:32 PM

^^ I can see it now. Would probably be called 300Z... "The Return of a Legend" haha

Isamu · 07-26-2012, 04:39 PM

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^^ I can see it now. Would probably be called 300Z... "The Return of a Legend" haha

that's what I was getting at earlier... the would drop the x. and simply call it a 300z.. tho, that might not be a good idea...

I wouldn't be surprised.. the more I think about it, if it was just called a Z.. much how it's not longer a skyline GTR.. it's just a GTR

Cmike2780 · 07-26-2012, 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by sfearl1

^^ I can see it now. Would probably be called 300Z... "The Return of a Legend" haha

240z was the legend. The 300ZX was the sequel. Great, but not as good as the original.

The next Z needs to look this agile.

Isamu · 07-26-2012, 04:45 PM

I am honestly a fan of this current body style.. along with almost every other z.. they do a good job there.. they just need to bring back the performance segment... like for real.. not just a half assed job...

tho again, I think they did a great job with the z34

FL 4Motion · 07-26-2012, 11:18 PM

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It does come with an oil cooler now...and I thought they fixed the brake issues by adding better venting. It would have been nice if they had it all along though.

I know it has it's fair share of shortcomings, but to say "the 370Z was a disappointment to most enthusiasts and it really is a far cry from the Z-cars of yesteryear" is uninformed jiberish. IMO the 370 is better than the 350 in every way, but because the sales figures during one of the worst recession in history doesn't match that of 350, it's a failure. It just sounds like this writer hasn't done any real research within the Z community.....or any group into cars for that matter. The Z was and is marketed towards the average "working man." The 370 just had bad timing, especially when the working man's chances of being unemployed became that much more likely.

/\ 2012+ oil cooler isstill not up to track time, only helps with "spirited" street driving. There's no brake venting or other improvements either for 2012+, there was a blurb in the brochures about it, I got super excited, turned out to be nothing changed, someone went and looked and everything was identical to the 09-11s.

I agree with you on all the stuff I bolded btw.

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Originally Posted by b1adesofcha0s

If they downsize the engine and then add TT, they can keep the price the same. That's what a lot of manufacturers are doing with their cars these days.

I agree, next Z will most likely drop the numerical designation and jsut be a "Z" car and go small displacemnt v6 with DI and hopefully TTs. If it loses 200lbs and comew with 350hp and around 300-320tq, with real lsd, no fuel starve, brake or oil cooling issues etc, it will be a homerun.

I personnaly feel the next Z needs to benchmark the cayman S again as well as the entry level vette, NOT go downmarket and go against the brz, miata etc. they can bring back the silvia for that.

b1adesofcha0s · 07-26-2012, 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by FL 4Motion

/\ 2012+ oil cooler isstill not up to track time, only helps with "spirited" street driving. There's no brake venting or other improvements either for 2012+, there was a blurb in the brochures about it, I got super excited, turned out to be nothing changed, someone went and looked and everything was identical to the 09-11s.

I agree with you on all the stuff I bolded btw.

I agree, next Z will most likely drop the numerical designation and jsut be a "Z" car and go small displacemnt v6 with DI and hopefully TTs. If it loses 200lbs and comew with 350hp and around 300-320tq, with real lsd, no fuel starve, brake or oil cooling issues etc, it will be a homerun.

I personnaly feel the next Z needs to benchmark the cayman S again as well as the entry level vette, NOT go downmarket and go against the brz, miata etc. they can bring back the silvia for that.

mhcoss · 07-26-2012, 11:53 PM

I'd be sad if they got rid of the 6 cylinder engine. What I'd like to 370zx i'd have to buy that.

SPOHN · 07-27-2012, 07:36 AM

Who cares if it's a smaller motor? Makes the car lighter and affordable (maintence). Upgrades would be cheaper also. As long as its reliable and you can throw anything at it power wise I'd be good to go. Make that baby all wheel drive and you will have a bad a$$ car.

Isamu · 07-27-2012, 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by SPOHN

Who cares if it's a smaller motor? Makes the car lighter and affordable (maintence). Upgrades would be cheaper also. As long as its reliable and you can throw anything at it power wise I'd be good to go. Make that baby all wheel drive and you will have a bad a$$ car.

they won't go awd... no baby GTRs here... but I agree, going back to a smaller FI motor would be practical and amazing.. and they can do what they did with the JUKE.. sport mode, turns the boost up, and eco mode...

mhcoss · 07-27-2012, 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by SPOHN

Who cares if it's a smaller motor? Makes the car lighter and affordable (maintence). Upgrades would be cheaper also. As long as its reliable and you can throw anything at it power wise I'd be good to go. Make that baby all wheel drive and you will have a bad a$$ car.

I bought it for RWD... AWD is not all its cracked up to be. A smaller motor is lame, you won't be able to throw anything at it power wise.

b1adesofcha0s · 07-27-2012, 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by mhcoss

I bought it for RWD... AWD is not all its cracked up to be. A smaller motor is lame, you won't be able to throw anything at it power wise.

If they go with a smaller motor they will most likely also add FI to keep the power up. With FI you can throw way more power at it than you can now.

07-26-2012, 12:23 PM	#1 (permalink)
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mhcoss Track Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Edmonton Posts: 520 Drives: 2012 370Z SPORT M/T Rep Power: 15	I'd be sad if they got rid of the 6 cylinder engine. What I'd like to 370zx i'd have to buy that. Last edited by mhcoss; 07-26-2012 at 11:57 PM.

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SPOHN A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Covington, GA Age: 46 Posts: 14,844 Drives: Waiting on next Z Rep Power: 222	Who cares if it's a smaller motor? Makes the car lighter and affordable (maintence). Upgrades would be cheaper also. As long as its reliable and you can throw anything at it power wise I'd be good to go. Make that baby all wheel drive and you will have a bad a$$ car. __________________

07-26-2012, 02:47 PM	#2 (permalink)
DCNISMO Track Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: washington dc Posts: 995 Drives: Nismo Z Rep Power: 179	Remember that they have to warranty parts so that factors into the cost of factory forced induction and they have to train techs and get suppliers on line. They buy all that stuff and turbos and blowers are in short supply. Plus you guys in here would no doubt mod them for more boost. That leads to blown egnines and other issues. Audi for example took a bath on B5 S4 with blown turbos many times with no mods either.

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