Mistubishi EVO vs 370Z

MightyBobo · 08-08-2009, 12:07 PM

Problem with your opinion, Armen, is its based off junk you don't understand.

Don't come to a debate if you don't even understand the vehicles you're debating. Seriously? Evo's are Auto-only, now?
Now that you're knowledge about an Evo's handling has been proven far inferior, you're back peddling right into the, "Well, at least the 370 LOOKS better" angle. So if RWD is superior than AWD, then FWD should be horrible, right? How did a FWD Cobalt kick some Ralliart/WRX ***? Better yet, how did the Cobalt SS/TC do so well in Car and Drivers 2008 Lightning lap? It almost beat every single car that was in the next class ABOVE it! All in the far "inferior" FWD.

The long and short of all this is, there far more that goes into a car than you understand. Its not always about the drive line configuration and nothing but. You barely know how to drive stick and you think you can make claims like yours?

armensti · 08-09-2009, 05:19 AM

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Originally Posted by MightyBobo

Problem with your opinion, Armen, is its based off junk you don't understand.

Don't come to a debate if you don't even understand the vehicles you're debating. Seriously? Evo's are Auto-only, now?
Now that you're knowledge about an Evo's handling has been proven far inferior, you're back peddling right into the, "Well, at least the 370 LOOKS better" angle. So if RWD is superior than AWD, then FWD should be horrible, right? How did a FWD Cobalt kick some Ralliart/WRX ***? Better yet, how did the Cobalt SS/TC do so well in Car and Drivers 2008 Lightning lap? It almost beat every single car that was in the next class ABOVE it! All in the far "inferior" FWD.

The long and short of all this is, there far more that goes into a car than you understand. Its not always about the drive line configuration and nothing but. You barely know how to drive stick and you think you can make claims like yours?

when i said that the evo x is auto i was talking about the mr not the gsr. if you know so much about the evo then you should have realized that

EVO_Killer · 08-09-2009, 08:07 AM

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travisjb thanks... not trying to lecture, some insightful points being made and I love learning about the evo... and ryan's car is BAD-***!... but also want to know about lance's build!

Thanks Dude!

Ryans car is super bad @ss!!!! Maybe he'll give me a Killer deal on some Volk RE30 in Machine Black.

Just picked up some HKS hipermax III Coil Overs and the coolest toy ever. A Magden M1.b Performance Computer!!! Its keeps track of dynamic horsepower, engine temps, and all other kinds of cool sh*t. It was featured in the new Fast & Furious movie. Steven at Ampliified hooked me up!!! (Thanks again Dude!!) I can't wait for delivery and install. I will get some pics asap.

EVO_Killer · 08-09-2009, 08:13 AM

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so, back on topic... evo_killer, nice job so far with the mods! what are you planning next??? if you're headed for the track, going to need to work on the brakes

Brakes are next. Any suggestions???

ct63084 · 08-09-2009, 03:47 PM

Hey Evo_Killer how much WHP do you have with this set up?

Diversion · 08-09-2009, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by armensti

when i said that the evo x is auto i was talking about the mr not the gsr. if you know so much about the evo then you should have realized that

Dude, seriously? Lol. How's someone going to assume you meant *only* the MR when you make a blanket statement like "Evo Xs only come in auto".. Huh? Where is that telling me or anybody else you meant only MR models?

Just stop digging the hole deeper, we're all mostly adults around here; man up, admit you didn't bring enough facts to this debate and we'll respect you for admitting so.

But to keep my post on topic, nice car OP!

armensti · 08-09-2009, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Diversion

Dude, seriously? Lol. How's someone going to assume you meant *only* the MR when you make a blanket statement like "Evo Xs only come in auto".. Huh? Where is that telling me or anybody else you meant only MR models?

Just stop digging the hole deeper, we're all mostly adults around here; man up, admit you didn't bring enough facts to this debate and we'll respect you for admitting so.

But to keep my post on topic, nice car OP!

well if you think about the statement "the evo x doesnt even come in stick" and you ask your self why would someone say that you should come to a conclusion that i must be talking about the mr.

im also wondering how much RWHP does the op's 370 have as of now

EVO_Killer · 08-09-2009, 05:50 PM

I also want to know....

After I get my Berk HFC's on I want to get a tune and dyno.

I wonder what my Magden Performance Computer will clock my cars dynamic horsepower at??? Waiting to hear back from Steven at Amplified on when they're coming.

armensti · 08-11-2009, 02:07 AM

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Originally Posted by EVO_Killer

I also want to know....

After I get my Berk HFC's on I want to get a tune and dyno.

I wonder what my Magden Performance Computer will clock my cars dynamic horsepower at??? Waiting to hear back from Steven at Amplified on when they're coming.

definitely try to get a dyno sometime soon.

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Originally Posted by bboypuertoroc

Ask myself why someone would say that? I'd think because they have absolutely no clue what they're talking about.

Do you realize how stupid this statement sounds? I mean seriously, WTF are we, mind readers?

What if I said "the 370Z only comes in auto"... what would YOU assume?

Nice try at trying to blame everyone else for your lack of knowledge.

epic fial

370z base auto or stick
370z base+sp auto or stick
370z touring auto or stick
370z touring sp auto or stick

Evo x GSR stick
Evo x MR auto

if you do your homework on the evo x you would know that if someone says the evo x doesnt even come in stick they must be talking about the mr. yeah i admit that i should've posted that in my post and not expect everyone to know that i must be talking about the mr. i mean its sooooo hard to understand the fact that the evo x auto he must be talking about the mr.

i mean someone calls the evo x an only auto car. How can we know that he must be talking about the mr. Im sorry if that was to hard for you to understand. you dont really need to be a mind reader to figure out that if someone says auto evo x then their talking about the mr, because unlike the 370 you dont get to pick what you want. its either get the gsr stick or mr auto Thats it.

Ryan@Forged · 08-11-2009, 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by armensti

definitely try to get a dyno sometime soon.

370z base auto or stick
370z base+sp auto or stick
370z touring auto or stick
370z touring sp auto or stick

Evo x GSR stick
Evo x MR auto

if you do your homework on the evo x you would know that if someone says the evo x doesnt even come in stick they must be talking about the mr. yeah i admit that i should've posted that in my post and not expect everyone to know that i must be talking about the mr. i mean its sooooo hard to understand the fact that the evo x auto he must be talking about the mr.

i mean someone calls the evo x an only auto car. How can we know that he must be talking about the mr. Im sorry if that was to hard for you to understand. you dont really need to be a mind reader to figure out that if someone says auto evo x then their talking about the mr, because unlike the 370 you dont get to pick what you want. its either get the gsr stick or mr auto Thats it.

I was hoping I had already cleared this up, but since it's apparent that it still being confused I will clarify. The Evo X MR is not an auto. The GT-R is not an auto. They have a dual clutch which uses paddle shifters. This is not the same as an automatic transmission. Just because there is no stick shift and clutch pedal does not make it an auto. The physics are completely different behind an auto and a dual clutch.

I don't want everyone to get read your posts and think they are automatic transmissions, because they are not. As for your debate on whether or not we should have assumed you meant the MR, I'm not going to comment on that.

shabarivas · 08-11-2009, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by armensti

definitely try to get a dyno sometime soon.

i mean someone calls the evo x an only auto car. How can we know that he must be talking about the mr. Im sorry if that was to hard for you to understand. you dont really need to be a mind reader to figure out that if someone says auto evo x then their talking about the mr, because unlike the 370 you dont get to pick what you want. its either get the gsr stick or mr auto Thats it.

are you serious? thats like me saying the Z only comes in auto... what would be your first reply to that? umm no its manual and auto - stop defending a silly post you made - man up and just let it be...

bboypuertoroc · 08-11-2009, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by armensti

Blah blah blah, I have no clue what I'm talking about.

So is an Evo X GSR not an Evo X? Because making an idiotic blanket statement like "the Evo X only comes in auto" would imply not only the MR, but the GSR as well, since they're BOTH Evo Xs.

And I need to do MY research? LMAO. There isn't a damn thing you can tell me about Evos that I don't already know.

EDIT: +1 to what Ryan said... it's not even a auto transmission.

Ryan@Forged · 08-10-2009, 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by EVO_Killer

Thanks Dude!

Ryans car is super bad @ss!!!! Maybe he'll give me a Killer deal on some Volk RE30 in Machine Black.

Give me a call or PM me. I'll give you a good deal since you were such a good host to all this Evo vs Z stuff

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Originally Posted by EVO_Killer

Brakes are next. Any suggestions???

I can help you with this as well if you would like

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Originally Posted by armensti

well if you think about the statement "the evo x doesnt even come in stick" and you ask your self why would someone say that you should come to a conclusion that i must be talking about the mr.

I'm trying not to get involved in this again, but you're making it hard. Don't make posts that you ASSUME others will interpret the same way as you . It was a post that included inaccurate information and you got called out on it. Nobody would assume that you were talking about the MR only. The obvious and logical response is going to be to assume that you don't know what you are talking about.

bboypuertoroc · 08-10-2009, 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by armensti

well if you think about the statement "the evo x doesnt even come in stick" and you ask your self why would someone say that you should come to a conclusion that i must be talking about the mr.

Ask myself why someone would say that? I'd think because they have absolutely no clue what they're talking about.

Do you realize how stupid this statement sounds? I mean seriously, WTF are we, mind readers?

What if I said "the 370Z only comes in auto"... what would YOU assume?

Nice try at trying to blame everyone else for your lack of knowledge.

epic fial

EVO_Killer · 08-10-2009, 08:22 PM

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Give me a call or PM me. I'll give you a good deal since you were such a good host to all this Evo vs Z stuff

Sweet thanks!

Tried to call you tonight but missed ya because of the time change. I'll call you tommorow.

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MightyBobo A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Las Vegas, NV Posts: 8,465 Drives: No cars; only bikes Rep Power: 54	Problem with your opinion, Armen, is its based off junk you don't understand. Don't come to a debate if you don't even understand the vehicles you're debating. Seriously? Evo's are Auto-only, now? Now that you're knowledge about an Evo's handling has been proven far inferior, you're back peddling right into the, "Well, at least the 370 LOOKS better" angle. So if RWD is superior than AWD, then FWD should be horrible, right? How did a FWD Cobalt kick some Ralliart/WRX **? Better yet, how did the Cobalt SS/TC do so well in Car and Drivers 2008 Lightning lap? It almost beat every single car that was in the next class ABOVE it! All in the far "inferior" FWD. The long and short of all this is, there far more that goes into a car than you understand. Its not always about the drive line configuration and nothing but. You barely know how to drive stick and you think you can make claims like yours? __________________ I don't own a car anymore. Last edited by MightyBobo; 08-08-2009 at 12:15 PM.*

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