Mistubishi EVO vs 370Z

shabarivas · 07-29-2009, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by armensti

correct me if im wrong but didnt the 370z get a better time on the top gear track then the evo x?

if thats the case then i would consider the z an evo killer. straight line racing doesnt count, anyone can press the gas pedal on the car and go straight.

Not to be a buzzkill - but the Evo X runs EXTREMELY rich from the factory... X + cobb AP = goodbye Z lol... however - the Z still is much more fun / involved to drive and I would never go back to computer aided AWD ... its a little worse than a video game imo lol

armensti · 07-29-2009, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by shabarivas

Not to be a buzzkill - but the Evo X runs EXTREMELY rich from the factory... X + cobb AP = goodbye Z lol... however - the Z still is much more fun / involved to drive and I would never go back to computer aided AWD ... its a little worse than a video game imo lol

but that doesnt really answer my question.

does the evo x get a better time on the top gear track then the 370z?

stock vs stock

bboypuertoroc · 07-29-2009, 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by armensti

but that doesnt really answer my question.

does the evo x get a better time on the top gear track then the 370z?

stock vs stock

No, the Z beat it by .72 seconds (which could have easily been in the Evo's favor if they would've launched it).

Tony (isn't salty at all)

dlmartin81 · 07-29-2009, 07:06 PM

^^ oh geeze.....another penile measuring contest.

Spec Jay · 07-29-2009, 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by dlmartin81

^^ oh geeze.....another penile measuring contest.

your just taking him too seriously.

shabarivas · 07-29-2009, 09:27 PM

Lol... dude you cant seriously argue w/ me about this... I have owned both the cars hahaha... honestly even leaving the bad launch aside - the MR would have probably made up that time w/ the shifting... so lets call it even on that front... Spend 2k on that car and it will be in the 1:23 range easily... Im just saying you are underestimating it... and stock vs stock does not mean jack...

ct63084 · 07-30-2009, 09:31 AM

Shabarivas is right Mitsubishi jacked up on the factory tune on the Evo X, sucks that i have to fork up 400 dollars to get my car tuned the way it was suppose to be tuned in the factory. Avg EVO X dyno at about 220-240, with a stock tune i've seen evo x jump up to 284 awhp.
I say this if you want sexy great looking and a nice performing sports car out of the box get the 370z, but mod for mod there's only a few cars that can match the potential of the evo x specially this new e-85 tune GST motorsports are doing a with basic bolt ons and a 950cc injectors i've seen a evox get 364 awhp 360wtq and that was their first e85 tune on the X with a couple more months of r&d I won't be surpise if they get more HP out of those tune.

BTW i saw my first 370z on the road today, damn those things looks so sexy must be a chick magnet, compare to my **** magnet evo x.

dlmartin81 · 07-30-2009, 10:22 AM

Ok, so the Evo X has a crappy tune out of the box. Well, if you've read any of the journals here (semtex's, DannyGT's, RCZ's, DDM, TravisJB, to name a few) you'll find that the Z has a very restrictive exhaust/air flow. DDM's only had the HFC + CBE from BERK and it made 312whp. I forget what the baseline was but I'm sure it was around the low to mid 170s (correcty me if I'm wrong DDM). So that's like a 35-40whp gain....just from the headers back.

I'm not nockin the EVO. That was my other consideration, believe me. I just happened to pick the Z over the EVO for it's looks and the better bang for the buck. Sport package Z comes with soo many nice features as we all know by now.

bboypuertoroc · 07-30-2009, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by dlmartin81

^^ oh geeze.....another penile measuring contest.

WTF are you talking about?

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Originally Posted by dlmartin81

I just happened to pick the Z over the EVO for it's looks and the better bang for the buck. Sport package Z comes with soo many nice features as we all know by now.

wat

You must be smoking some VERY good **** to think a Z has better bang/buck than an Evo.

gatorfast · 07-30-2009, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by bboypuertoroc

You must be smoking some VERY good **** to think a Z has better bang/buck than an Evo.

Depends on what you are looking for. If you are talking about performance/tunability only then yea the evo is the better value. But if you consider things like ride comfort, navigation, homelink, etc as well as performance, then the 370z is the better value.

dlmartin81 · 07-30-2009, 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by bboypuertoroc

WTF are you talking about?

wat

You must be smoking some VERY good **** to think a Z has better bang/buck than an Evo.

Ok dude....chill out....take a breather. You're taking this way to seriously. Let's act like grown men here.

I was simply expressing my opinion and reason for picking the Z over the EVO X. I wasn't knocking on EVOs. EVOs/STIs both are great cars as well -- AWD, 4-banger turbo, brembos, etc. The Evo has the S-AYC, and Recaros which is great. They handle really well in all conditions.

The sport 370 on the other hand also comes with huge a$$ brakes as well, stellar lookin 19" forged Rays, here's the biggie....the world's first rev-matching tranny...pure genius. the fact that you never have to take the keys out of your pocket to unlock the doors and start the ignition is awesome. It also has a nice subtle rear spoiler. It's a 'true' sports car -- 2 seater, RWD. It too handles really well.

The Z however has a much nicer upscale interior than the EVO. Again, that's my opinion. And the car over all has a much sexier look appeal to it than the EVO. Once again, my opinion. Also, the EVO X doesn't have a 6MT, which sucks when cruising at high speeds. EVOs don't come standard with HIDs, which is a minus for me....come on, if I'm going to spend around 30K, at least you could give me a decent set of headlights. The only way to get them is by purchasing/installing the SSS package (Sight, Spoiler, Sound). Plus, this is the 21st century....every car over 25K should have HIDs.

The words "better band for the buck" is straight up personal opinion. So get over it.

ct63084 · 07-30-2009, 11:33 PM

For my case the best bang/buck is the evo x, I got my fully loaded GSR for 31k 0 percent for 60 plus the four doors is really comes handy at times. If i didn't get that deal i would have bought the 370z.

I totally agree on the evo not having 6 speed, the engine is pretty loud during HWY cruise. But i would rather have the stronger 5 speed because mitsu did put a 6 speed on the ix MR but it was weak and people who put power on their evo were breaking them.

What i hate about the evo though is the interior sucks compare to the 370z, alot of clunking sounds especially wen it's cold i think it's because of the awd, notchy transmission specially 2nd and 3rd, lol its a dude magnet I haven't got a compliment from any females yet I usually get compliment from car guys. Seems like every muscle car, civics and srt4 have it for me revving at me all the time. EVO is also notorious for having a weak clutch, well a stage 2 exedy should take care of that problem also my evo x has a rough idle right now because of the shitty factory tune, i need to visit GST for my tune.

Lol seems like i hate my evo, but everytime i get out of the car there's always a smile in my face

.

grahfz · 07-31-2009, 12:28 AM

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Originally Posted by dlmartin81

Ok dude....chill out....take a breather. You're taking this way to seriously. Let's act like grown men here.

I was simply expressing my opinion and reason for picking the Z over the EVO X. I wasn't knocking on EVOs. EVOs/STIs both are great cars as well -- AWD, 4-banger turbo, brembos, etc. The Evo has the S-AYC, and Recaros which is great. They handle really well in all conditions.

The sport 370 on the other hand also comes with huge a$$ brakes as well, stellar lookin 19" forged Rays, here's the biggie....the world's first rev-matching tranny...pure genius. the fact that you never have to take the keys out of your pocket to unlock the doors and start the ignition is awesome. It also has a nice subtle rear spoiler. It's a 'true' sports car -- 2 seater, RWD. It too handles really well.

The Z however has a much nicer upscale interior than the EVO. Again, that's my opinion. And the car over all has a much sexier look appeal to it than the EVO. Once again, my opinion. Also, the EVO X doesn't have a 6MT, which sucks when cruising at high speeds. EVOs don't come standard with HIDs, which is a minus for me....come on, if I'm going to spend around 30K, at least you could give me a decent set of headlights. The only way to get them is by purchasing/installing the SSS package (Sight, Spoiler, Sound). Plus, this is the 21st century....every car over 25K should have HIDs.

The words "better band for the buck" is straight up personal opinion. So get over it.

Agreed, I won't even think about a car without hid's...

I don't keep my keys in my pocket anymore since the pushbutton.. found that a d-clip on a belt loop works better... I was always hunting for my keys whenever I stopped the car to make sure that I didn't leave them inside. It did open up room to pocket carry my revolver though.

I won't touch a mitsubishi. I've seen TOOOOOOOooooo many people have issues with them. Hell, show me a 3000gt that is still on it's first engine and transmission, and I'll show you a car that sits in a showroom all day.

armensti · 07-31-2009, 01:29 AM

its much easier to increase the horsepower on a car that comes turbo charged out of the factory compared to a car that is not. thats where the evo gets its advantage but if someone put in a tt kit on the 370 the evo would be history.

tt kit+370z = bye bye evo

Ryan@Forged · 07-30-2009, 10:38 AM

I love 370z's, but I own 2 Evo's so this is an interesting topic for me.

Care to put that name of yours to a friendly exhibition around the track?

07-30-2009, 10:22 AM	#8 (permalink)
dlmartin81 Track Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Chalfont, PA Age: 44 Posts: 923 Drives: 09 370Z Rep Power: 609	Ok, so the Evo X has a crappy tune out of the box. Well, if you've read any of the journals here (semtex's, DannyGT's, RCZ's, DDM, TravisJB, to name a few) you'll find that the Z has a very restrictive exhaust/air flow. DDM's only had the HFC + CBE from BERK and it made 312whp. I forget what the baseline was but I'm sure it was around the low to mid 170s (correcty me if I'm wrong DDM). So that's like a 35-40whp gain....just from the headers back. I'm not nockin the EVO. That was my other consideration, believe me. I just happened to pick the Z over the EVO for it's looks and the better bang for the buck. Sport package Z comes with soo many nice features as we all know by now. Last edited by dlmartin81; 07-30-2009 at 10:27 AM.

07-30-2009, 11:33 PM	#12 (permalink)
ct63084 Base Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: FAIRFIELD CA Posts: 219 Drives: 2004 MAZDA3 Rep Power: 18	For my case the best bang/buck is the evo x, I got my fully loaded GSR for 31k 0 percent for 60 plus the four doors is really comes handy at times. If i didn't get that deal i would have bought the 370z. I totally agree on the evo not having 6 speed, the engine is pretty loud during HWY cruise. But i would rather have the stronger 5 speed because mitsu did put a 6 speed on the ix MR but it was weak and people who put power on their evo were breaking them. What i hate about the evo though is the interior sucks compare to the 370z, alot of clunking sounds especially wen it's cold i think it's because of the awd, notchy transmission specially 2nd and 3rd, lol its a dude magnet I haven't got a compliment from any females yet I usually get compliment from car guys. Seems like every muscle car, civics and srt4 have it for me revving at me all the time. EVO is also notorious for having a weak clutch, well a stage 2 exedy should take care of that problem also my evo x has a rough idle right now because of the shitty factory tune, i need to visit GST for my tune. Lol seems like i hate my evo, but everytime i get out of the car there's always a smile in my face.

07-29-2009, 07:06 PM	#4 (permalink)
dlmartin81 Track Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Chalfont, PA Age: 44 Posts: 923 Drives: 09 370Z Rep Power: 609	^^ oh geeze.....another penile measuring contest.

07-29-2009, 09:27 PM	#6 (permalink)
shabarivas A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 2,188 Drives: 370z MB 6mt Rep Power: 916	Lol... dude you cant seriously argue w/ me about this... I have owned both the cars hahaha... honestly even leaving the bad launch aside - the MR would have probably made up that time w/ the shifting... so lets call it even on that front... Spend 2k on that car and it will be in the 1:23 range easily... Im just saying you are underestimating it... and stock vs stock does not mean jack...

07-30-2009, 09:31 AM	#7 (permalink)
ct63084 Base Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: FAIRFIELD CA Posts: 219 Drives: 2004 MAZDA3 Rep Power: 18	Shabarivas is right Mitsubishi jacked up on the factory tune on the Evo X, sucks that i have to fork up 400 dollars to get my car tuned the way it was suppose to be tuned in the factory. Avg EVO X dyno at about 220-240, with a stock tune i've seen evo x jump up to 284 awhp. I say this if you want sexy great looking and a nice performing sports car out of the box get the 370z, but mod for mod there's only a few cars that can match the potential of the evo x specially this new e-85 tune GST motorsports are doing a with basic bolt ons and a 950cc injectors i've seen a evox get 364 awhp 360wtq and that was their first e85 tune on the X with a couple more months of r&d I won't be surpise if they get more HP out of those tune. BTW i saw my first 370z on the road today, damn those things looks so sexy must be a chick magnet, compare to my **** magnet evo x.

07-31-2009, 01:29 AM	#14 (permalink)
armensti Enthusiast Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: CA Posts: 447 Drives: 370Z/Tring/Spt/6MT Rep Power: 18	its much easier to increase the horsepower on a car that comes turbo charged out of the factory compared to a car that is not. thats where the evo gets its advantage but if someone put in a tt kit on the 370 the evo would be history. tt kit+370z = bye bye evo

07-30-2009, 10:38 AM	#15 (permalink)
Ryan@Forged The370Z.com Sponsor Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Marietta/Kennesaw, GA Posts: 1,527 Drives: Evo 8/Evo 9 MR/GTR Rep Power: 0	I love 370z's, but I own 2 Evo's so this is an interesting topic for me. Care to put that name of yours to a friendly exhibition around the track?