Mistubishi EVO vs 370Z

GingaBreadMan · 07-12-2009, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by bellydancer4

I cant realy compare the two cars since they are meant for different purposes. The evo is nasty out of the hole, and makes a ton of torque with the 16g. The z waits till it revs up to make some power, but it revs surprisingly high and makes good power through the whole power band. Both cars handle very well but the evo makes u feel more confident with the awd system, and the z is fun getting sidewayzz.

If u could only have one which would u choose? I gonna assume the Evo just because of the extra space and comparable performance.

bellydancer4 · 07-12-2009, 06:22 PM

u said it for me but, i like both for different purposes.

Scott@FontanaNissan · 07-14-2009, 06:06 PM

I have pointed this link to my tuner Jon at HB Speed in Fountain Valley, CA. Jon is one of the premier tuners in Southern California. He has tuned a large percentage of the west coast Time Attack cars out here. I'm sure he'd be happy to shed some light on this topic of whether 30psi on an FP Red with stock internals and only ARP headstuds will hold up.

P.S. Running 30psi on pumpgas...do you beat your girlfriend as well??? Cuz that's just a mean thing to do to your motor!!!

bboypuertoroc · 07-14-2009, 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Scott@FontanaNissan

I have pointed this link to my tuner Jon at HB Speed in Fountain Valley, CA. Jon is one of the premier tuners in Southern California. He has tuned a large percentage of the west coast Time Attack cars out here. I'm sure he'd be happy to shed some light on this topic of whether 30psi on an FP Red with stock internals and only ARP headstuds will hold up.

P.S. Running 30psi on pumpgas...do you beat your girlfriend as well??? Cuz that's just a mean thing to do to your motor!!!

Can't wait

And yes, when my wife doesn't have my sammich ready after work I put my wife beater on and kick her around while she's on her hands and knees scrubbing my floor.

Tony (is running 30psi by my tuner's suggestion)

-evo aaron- · 07-17-2009, 02:25 AM

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Originally Posted by bboypuertoroc

Can't wait

And yes, when my wife doesn't have my sammich ready after work I put my wife beater on and kick her around while she's on her hands and knees scrubbing my floor.

Tony (is running 30psi by my tuner's suggestion)

hahah, who said he^ was running pump gas? i dont remember seeing that being anhywhere. and being an evo owner myself (one who is soon to have an FP RED running similar similar boost) I could tell you that he isnt running pump... unless its with a meth injection kit.
race gas or E85 FTW
im saving to have my evo tuned on E85 by september with some nice mods,

4G63 Evos can handle 550whp on stock block for sure. ARP head studs just to keep the head in place, many many evo owners have been running these numbers for a good period of time on there evos.

and as far as the 8/9 vs 10 goes......
ya the X is fast, yes it handles well, but it did not evolve from the previous model..... new chassis, new engine, new looks, no EVOLUTION TOOK PLACE.
stock for stock the 9 beats the 10 on the track its proven.

(and for everyone wondering why an evo owner is on the Z forums, I plan on buying one soon i have always loved them and the new nismo 370z in black has me sold)

bboypuertoroc · 07-17-2009, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by -evo aaron-

hahah, who said he^ was running pump gas? i dont remember seeing that being anhywhere. and being an evo owner myself (one who is soon to have an FP RED running similar similar boost) I could tell you that he isnt running pump... unless its with a meth injection kit.
race gas or E85 FTW
im saving to have my evo tuned on E85 by september with some nice mods,

4G63 Evos can handle 550whp on stock block for sure. ARP head studs just to keep the head in place, many many evo owners have been running these numbers for a good period of time on there evos.

and as far as the 8/9 vs 10 goes......
ya the X is fast, yes it handles well, but it did not evolve from the previous model..... new chassis, new engine, new looks, no EVOLUTION TOOK PLACE.
stock for stock the 9 beats the 10 on the track its proven.

(and for everyone wondering why an evo owner is on the Z forums, I plan on buying one soon i have always loved them and the new nismo 370z in black has me sold)

Um... I said I'm running pump gas. 30psi on 92oct to be exact. No knock. Great DLL numbers (haven't had a chance to hit a dyno and still haven't finished tuning the AFR, so there's still a little power left on the table).

Like I already said... the X IS an evolution of the IX. It's like saying the VII wasn't an evolution of the VI (which is somewhat true, lol) or the IV wasn't an evolution of the III. It's a better all around car... there's no arguing that. There's no arguing that it's better on the track than a IX... anybody that's ran both at any kind of event will tell you this. Of course it's not as fast/quick as a XI on the drag strip, but that's a moot point since drag racing is NOT what the car was built for.

Scott@FontanaNissan · 07-17-2009, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by bboypuertoroc

Um... I said I'm running pump gas. 30psi on 92oct to be exact. No knock. Great DLL numbers (haven't had a chance to hit a dyno and still haven't finished tuning the AFR, so there's still a little power left on the table).

Like I already said... the X IS an evolution of the IX. It's like saying the VII wasn't an evolution of the VI (which is somewhat true, lol) or the IV wasn't an evolution of the III. It's a better all around car... there's no arguing that. There's no arguing that it's better on the track than a IX... anybody that's ran both at any kind of event will tell you this. Of course it's not as fast/quick as a XI on the drag strip, but that's a moot point since drag racing is NOT what the car was built for.

I'm glad your motor is still running strong...just be VERY careful.

This taken from Forced Performance's website:

Forced Performance Turbochargers: FP RED Turbocharger Evo IX

"The FP Red turbocharger for the EVOIX is the only stock format turbo capable of delivering 550+whp with some examples recording over 600whp. Typical installations of this turbo result in mid to upper 400's on pump gas and mid to upper 500's on race gas depending on ambient temperature and related mods to the car in question. Typical boost threshold is about 3700RPM with some cars spooling up slower or faster depending on camshaft selection and other variables. The turbocharger should be operated at 22-24psi on pump gas and about 30-35psi spike dropping to 25-27psi by redline in race gas applications."

My cause for concern on this has stemmed from my conversations with Robert Young at Forced Performance. I am sponsored by Forced Performance with my STi and had considered the RED for my build before I had built internals. He strongly swayed me away from that as for both the EVO and STi with stock internals. Even with Cosworth internals, I upgraded my Green to the HTA Green and I run 100 octane plus meth!!!

I have seen 3 evo ix's go "Kaboom" in the last 3 months out here using the Red with stock internals (with race gas) pushing 30psi!

And as far as the Evo 7-9 vs X on track...i have driven them all on track...X is faster hands down.

-evo aaron- · 07-18-2009, 05:37 AM

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Originally Posted by bboypuertoroc

Um... I said I'm running pump gas. 30psi on 92oct to be exact. No knock. Great DLL numbers (haven't had a chance to hit a dyno and still haven't finished tuning the AFR, so there's still a little power left on the table).

Like I already said... the X IS an evolution of the IX. It's like saying the VII wasn't an evolution of the VI (which is somewhat true, lol) or the IV wasn't an evolution of the III. It's a better all around car... there's no arguing that. There's no arguing that it's better on the track than a IX... anybody that's ran both at any kind of event will tell you this. Of course it's not as fast/quick as a XI on the drag strip, but that's a moot point since drag racing is NOT what the car was built for.

my bad, somehow skipped that. either way still FP RED FTW. and if you can run pump with that boost then great job with the tuning.

on the other note my issue with the X still stands. NEW chassis, NEW engine. all previous evos had same chassis and engine. they just kept evolving into better performing machines. body was a minor change before.

Balzdeep · 07-17-2009, 03:07 PM

Nice ride their EVO killr'. Might need a little more juice to take out a EVO................

shabarivas · 07-17-2009, 04:17 PM

The Op has left the building lol

bboypuertoroc · 07-17-2009, 09:44 PM

el oh el

Brazilbro · 07-18-2009, 12:12 PM

I sure do miss my red

Supergoji · 07-19-2009, 10:47 PM

mitsubishi designed a nice engine. however the engine is really the only upgrade.
Jspec evo 9's have the active yaw control that the X has over here.

so if your brought an evo 9 from over there to here the 9 would spank the X even harder on track.

bboypuertoroc · 07-20-2009, 03:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Supergoji

mitsubishi designed a nice engine. however the engine is really the only upgrade.
Jspec evo 9's have the active yaw control that the X has over here.

so if your brought an evo 9 from over there to here the 9 would spank the X even harder on track.

Fail.

I'm really sick of correcting people that post idiotic misinformation. This is how people get dumber. Please stop.

armensti · 07-29-2009, 03:30 AM

correct me if im wrong but didnt the 370z get a better time on the top gear track then the evo x?

if thats the case then i would consider the z an evo killer. straight line racing doesnt count, anyone can press the gas pedal on the car and go straight.

07-12-2009, 06:22 PM	#2 (permalink)
bellydancer4 Base Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Little Rock, Arkansas Posts: 11 Drives: 09 370z Bk, 06 Evo9 Rep Power: 17	u said it for me but, i like both for different purposes. __________________ Girl with the Z....

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Scott@FontanaNissan Supporting Nissan Dealer Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Fontucky, CA Posts: 857 Drives: 91 Sentra GTi-R Rep Power: 27	I have pointed this link to my tuner Jon at HB Speed in Fountain Valley, CA. Jon is one of the premier tuners in Southern California. He has tuned a large percentage of the west coast Time Attack cars out here. I'm sure he'd be happy to shed some light on this topic of whether 30psi on an FP Red with stock internals and only ARP headstuds will hold up. P.S. Running 30psi on pumpgas...do you beat your girlfriend as well??? Cuz that's just a mean thing to do to your motor!!! __________________ Scott VanderHeide - Motorsports Director - Fontana Nissan/NissanRaceShop www.nissanraceshop.com www.youtube.com/scottvanderheide Last edited by Scott@FontanaNissan; 07-14-2009 at 06:17 PM.

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Balzdeep Base Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: SW Mizzou Posts: 17 Drives: Many Rep Power: 17	Nice ride their EVO killr'. Might need a little more juice to take out a EVO................ __________________ Current:08 CSRT4 ED downpipe, RT Clamp, AGP wg, MS1, S1 injectors, PTP inlet pipe, etc. *Dyno 7/11/09 - 350/353 fwhp

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bboypuertoroc Enthusiast Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Get out my way pimpin, HI Posts: 419 Drives: '06 Evo IX GSR Rep Power: 389	el oh el __________________ Evo IX GSR - FPBlack, 30psi... 10's on pump? Let's find out...

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Brazilbro A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Indianapolis, IN Posts: 1,131 Drives: Juke/240Z Rep Power: 849	I sure do miss my red Last edited by Brazilbro; 07-18-2009 at 12:16 PM.

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shabarivas A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 2,188 Drives: 370z MB 6mt Rep Power: 915	The Op has left the building lol

07-19-2009, 10:47 PM	#13 (permalink)
Supergoji Enthusiast Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Westchester NY Age: 36 Posts: 311 Drives: Z32tt / Supra tt Rep Power: 257	mitsubishi designed a nice engine. however the engine is really the only upgrade. Jspec evo 9's have the active yaw control that the X has over here. so if your brought an evo 9 from over there to here the 9 would spank the X even harder on track.

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armensti Enthusiast Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: CA Posts: 447 Drives: 370Z/Tring/Spt/6MT Rep Power: 17	correct me if im wrong but didnt the 370z get a better time on the top gear track then the evo x? if thats the case then i would consider the z an evo killer. straight line racing doesnt count, anyone can press the gas pedal on the car and go straight.