Read what the BRZ / FR-S Toyobaru said about our car.

UNKNOWN_370 · 07-11-2012, 09:10 AM

Anyone who pays 5k over the FRS/BRZ sticker is an idiot. I haven't test driven but have inspected the standing car thoroughly. Imho, HYPE is what gave the FRS BRZ its 25 & 26k sticker. Both these cars don't look like they are worth more than 23k. FR or not.
I know a gencoupe weighs more but, 27k can get you a 2.0 r spec that weighs 3300lbs gives you 275hp turbo engine that's modifiable on the cheap to 450hp, 4 caliper brembo brakes all around, Torsen limited slip and pretty good handling and .93g of grip on
the skidpad.

I don't think I can justify buying a toyobaru new based on this. Maybe as a commuter? I appreciate all this car can offer as an experience but right now. We have some pretty good choices in sports cars. Its not 2001 anymore. We don't have to be overcharged. As a sports car for 27k. A mustang v6 or 2.0 gen has a competive edge in overall value. If you put a 5k upmarket on a FRS? You might as well buy a Z or mustang GT base.

Sibze · 07-11-2012, 09:23 AM

Best thread ever. Lets beat down on a car that is not in the same class. Next thread: "Read what the Ferrari 458 Italia said about our car." They called the 370z slow

Cmike2780 · 07-11-2012, 09:41 AM

Mt Tam I am · 07-11-2012, 09:44 AM

The Z will be out sold by the BRZ/FRS. But the real test will be do they outsell their closer competitor the Miata?

Cmike2780 · 07-11-2012, 09:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mt Tam I am

The Z will be out sold by the BRZ/FRS. But the real test will be do they outsell their closer competitor the Miata?

meh...Civics have been outselling the Z since forever also. Doesn't matter.

Mt Tam I am · 07-11-2012, 10:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cmike2780

meh...Civics have been outselling the Z since forever also. Doesn't matter.

Sure. The Z is outsold by lots of things. The Z is the better car. That is why is costs more.

If the test was who sells the most the Z loses. That is all it loses. It wins on power, interior, (I think) everything.

Sibze · 07-11-2012, 09:51 AM

A cheaper car will most likely outsell and more expensive car… Doesn't mean either cars are better or worse. When a car is cheaper there is a bigger market.

UNKNOWN_370 · 07-11-2012, 10:05 AM

Watch the BRZ go to its 147mph top speed.

2013 Subaru BRZ top speed run - YouTube

Watch the 370 hit top speed

Nissan 370z Top Speed - YouTube

Its true... its not even worth comparing the two.

Ubetit · 07-11-2012, 10:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

Watch the BRZ go to its 147mph top speed.

Watch the 370 hit top speed

Nissan 370z Top Speed - YouTube

Its true... its not even worth comparing the two.

That's a video game with the 370z

Red__Zed · 07-11-2012, 10:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

Watch the BRZ go to its 147mph top speed.

2013 Subaru BRZ top speed run - YouTube

Watch the 370 hit top speed

Nissan 370z Top Speed - YouTube

Its true... its not even worth comparing the two.

Well, we can definitely conclude that the 370z is faster in a video game

cossie1600 · 07-11-2012, 10:43 AM

z has 330hp. Toyota has 200hp, no $hit it loses in a top speed run....

Evofusion · 07-11-2012, 11:13 AM

looks like someone had a 370 but now has an fr-s

i asked him why......still waiting for his response

Cmike2780 · 07-11-2012, 12:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Evofusion

looks like someone had a 370 but now has an fr-s

i asked him why......still waiting for his response

Maybe he really likes modding, cause he'll probably end up spending a ton just to get that "feel" back. I read that on average, the BRZ is selling for around $29,000. On the low side, a single turbo setup is probably going to run close to $5k plus additional upgrades to the powertrain and still can't come close. The money and performance factors don't make sense to switch.

specZ · 07-11-2012, 07:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by owi1kenobi

Some are good and very unbiased and some seems to be just plain jealousy.

FR-S vs. 370z, end all be all of discussions - Scion FR-S Forum | Subaru BRZ Forum | Toyota 86 GT 86 Forum | AS1 Forum - FT86CLUB

AKI370z · 07-11-2012, 09:19 PM

the FR-S is just an up to date AE86 so therefore all the drift king fan-boys are going to want it.

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07-11-2012, 09:10 AM	#1 (permalink)
UNKNOWN_370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: ny'r livn in tx Posts: 8,687 Drives: well over 130m.p.h. Rep Power: 14859	Anyone who pays 5k over the FRS/BRZ sticker is an idiot. I haven't test driven but have inspected the standing car thoroughly. Imho, HYPE is what gave the FRS BRZ its 25 & 26k sticker. Both these cars don't look like they are worth more than 23k. FR or not. I know a gencoupe weighs more but, 27k can get you a 2.0 r spec that weighs 3300lbs gives you 275hp turbo engine that's modifiable on the cheap to 450hp, 4 caliper brembo brakes all around, Torsen limited slip and pretty good handling and .93g of grip on the skidpad. I don't think I can justify buying a toyobaru new based on this. Maybe as a commuter? I appreciate all this car can offer as an experience but right now. We have some pretty good choices in sports cars. Its not 2001 anymore. We don't have to be overcharged. As a sports car for 27k. A mustang v6 or 2.0 gen has a competive edge in overall value. If you put a 5k upmarket on a FRS? You might as well buy a Z or mustang GT base.

07-11-2012, 09:23 AM	#2 (permalink)
Sibze A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2009 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 16,202 Drives: In your way Rep Power: 64	Best thread ever. Lets beat down on a car that is not in the same class. Next thread: "Read what the Ferrari 458 Italia said about our car." They called the 370z slow

07-11-2012, 09:51 AM	#7 (permalink)
Sibze A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2009 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 16,202 Drives: In your way Rep Power: 64	A cheaper car will most likely outsell and more expensive car… Doesn't mean either cars are better or worse. When a car is cheaper there is a bigger market.

07-11-2012, 10:05 AM	#8 (permalink)
UNKNOWN_370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: ny'r livn in tx Posts: 8,687 Drives: well over 130m.p.h. Rep Power: 14859	Watch the BRZ go to its 147mph top speed. 2013 Subaru BRZ top speed run - YouTube Watch the 370 hit top speed Nissan 370z Top Speed - YouTube Its true... its not even worth comparing the two.

07-11-2012, 10:43 AM	#11 (permalink)
cossie1600 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: californee way Posts: 5,380 Drives: 370, Leaf Rep Power: 31	z has 330hp. Toyota has 200hp, no $hit it loses in a top speed run....

07-11-2012, 09:19 PM	#15 (permalink)
AKI370z Base Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: New York Posts: 21 Drives: 370z BS Rep Power: 14	the FR-S is just an up to date AE86 so therefore all the drift king fan-boys are going to want it.