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Old 07-03-2012, 05:56 PM   #1 (permalink)
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reminds me of the scumbags who tried to add a mandatory $1000 paint sealant charge Toyota tried to charge me when I bought my Prius. I reported them to the DMV right after
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what's wrong with reporting a car dealership running scams? a mark up called paint sealant protection?
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my mini cooper S can beat that plus it's a front wheel drive.
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my mini cooper S can beat that plus it's a front wheel drive.
if it doesn't self combust before the race.
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Miata door loses to a gun...

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This must be photoshopped
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9 pages of everyone saying the same thing. I love the internet.
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but I'm only agreeing to add another post that says the same thing that you just said, so
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FWIW, the BRZ and FR-S are actually not exactly the same mechanically -- they each have different suspension set-ups. The BRZ is alleged to be firmer whereas the FR-S is set up to have more body roll and over steer dialed in.

Otherwise, the difference is cosmetic or related to amenities.

Should you trade in your Z for one?

Ask yourself if you would consider trading in for a Miata. If the answer is "yes", then yes, because the FR-S/BRZ is as good -- if not better (and more practical) -- than the current gen MX-5

If you said "no", wait to see if a factory boosted option (e.g., the Gazoo twincharged prototype) becomes available. Then we'll have a good alternative to the Z at the same price point.
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I was a toyota guy for a long, long time prior to purchasing my 370z.

The 370z and BRZ/FR-S are not even in the same class.
I wouldnt even consider WRX/EVO with BRZ/FR-S to be in the same class.

The BRZ/FR-S's main compeditor is the RX8, Hyundia Genesis coupe, and whatever 4cylinder naturally aspirated cars are out there. I'd even peg it with a VW GTI, cause the GTI's are around 200HP still even with a turbo.

Believe it or not, I was actually going to buy a FR-S. That was until I seen the weight to power ration and the fact that Toyota would only release it under the Scion brand in the USA. Then I thought hey I will get the BRZ. But then I thought, do I really want to dump about $30K into a Subaru BRZ, that some stupid kid about 17 years old is driving with a Scion badge on it? Not to mention, that it is rare to see 370z's as it is, and you will see a whole slew of scion's on the road in the next few months.

If they atleast turbo charged that engine on the Subaru side. I would be all for it and would even be on this forum. But I believe I made a wise decision in getting the 370z, because it has continious years of inspiration and devolopement. The GT800's that were sold have gaps in the years of productions. Toyota and Subaru did spend a great deal of R&D, money and time into every aspect of this car.

Now, if Toyota comes back out with a straight 6 turbo'd supra. You will see the 370z go bye bye.

As far as Im concerned, stock vs stock. BRZ/FR-S is no where near the 370z, or any 6 cylinder sport car.
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That supra is a nice car... experiencing an inline 6 TT without getting a BMW, here's hoping that happens at some point.
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I was a toyota guy for a long, long time prior to purchasing my 370z.

The 370z and BRZ/FR-S are not even in the same class.
I wouldnt even consider WRX/EVO with BRZ/FR-S to be in the same class.

The BRZ/FR-S's main compeditor is the RX8, Hyundia Genesis coupe, and whatever 4cylinder naturally aspirated cars are out there. I'd even peg it with a VW GTI, cause the GTI's are around 200HP still even with a turbo.

Believe it or not, I was actually going to buy a FR-S. That was until I seen the weight to power ration and the fact that Toyota would only release it under the Scion brand in the USA. Then I thought hey I will get the BRZ. But then I thought, do I really want to dump about $30K into a Subaru BRZ, that some stupid kid about 17 years old is driving with a Scion badge on it? Not to mention, that it is rare to see 370z's as it is, and you will see a whole slew of scion's on the road in the next few months.

If they atleast turbo charged that engine on the Subaru side. I would be all for it and would even be on this forum. But I believe I made a wise decision in getting the 370z, because it has continious years of inspiration and devolopement. The GT800's that were sold have gaps in the years of productions. Toyota and Subaru did spend a great deal of R&D, money and time into every aspect of this car.

Now, if Toyota comes back out with a straight 6 turbo'd supra. You will see the 370z go bye bye.

As far as Im concerned, stock vs stock. BRZ/FR-S is no where near the 370z, or any 6 cylinder sport car.


Wait a couple of months and you'll see BRZ/FR-s on every stoplight here in florida with cute stuffed toy hanging under the diffuser with pink rims and a giant spoiler that's bigger than the 747 , marked my words.

Same thing will happen eventually with the 370z after 8 years when it became cheap and accessible to these boy racers who thinks they have the fastest car in the world.

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Same thing will happen eventually with the 370z after 8 years when it became cheap and accessible to these boy racers who thinks they have the fastest car in the world.
Judging a novice is like judging a guy high on bath salt , you never know what he is going to do or what he is going to eat.

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