base brakes almost killed me

bigdog1250 · 06-30-2012, 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Cmike2780

Soft and weak? The base brakes are more than enough brake force for that and the advantage over the sports package stopping distance is minimal. The advatage with the Akebono's is really only noticeable if you track or autox the car which requires constant brake cycles that generate a ton of heat. It's not really 'safer' than the base brakes, but they are better for other reasons. Base brakes 'almost killing you' is a bit of an exaggeration and you'd probably be just as 'almost killed' doing the same thing with the Akebono's. They do way look better than the base brakes though.

+1 Driver error. Best brake mod is a good set of eyes (.)(.)

Apoc370z · 06-30-2012, 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by bigdog1250

+1 Driver error. Best brake mod is a good set of eyes (.)(.)

bewbs!!!

oh wait....

UNKNOWN_370 · 07-01-2012, 07:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Cmike2780

Soft and weak? The base brakes are more than enough brake force for that and the advantage over the sports package stopping distance is minimal. The advatage with the Akebono's is really only noticeable if you track or autox the car which requires constant brake cycles that generate a ton of heat. It's not really 'safer' than the base brakes, but they are better for other reasons. Base brakes 'almost killing you' is a bit of an exaggeration and you'd probably be just as 'almost killed' doing the same thing with the Akebono's. They do way look better than the base brakes though.

Nismo89 · 06-30-2012, 12:06 AM

well i would presume that you have new brakes on order? if your gonna be stopping regularly at 70 mph. then get better brakes, otherwise the regular base brakes are more than enough stopping power.

no idea what caused you to have to stop suddenly at 70 plus mph but if you want to spend the cash on minimal gains over the stock brakes, (depending on what you get) go for it, i know i certainly dont go Balls out and to the wall everytime in the my car. i want to make it last and speeding on the highway is a good way to get my take taken away. lol

"soft and weak" has me wondering what exactly you were doing..... lol if it was on a track id understand ...the best defense to this andto avoid is using your eyes to see whats ahead and get ready for it (change to lower speeds and gears)

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Guard Dad · 06-30-2012, 12:20 AM

Get the Z1 upgrade and make sure you get stainless steel brake lines, use a temperature resistant brake fluid like Motul RBF660 and select pads with aggressive initial (cold) bite. Sounds like your issues are in street driving, I suspect that your problem is one of response rather outright stopping distance. This setup should help in that regard. Once the brakes are into the ABS mode it's all up to the tires so make sure you'll got some good ones.

forza370z · 06-30-2012, 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by buddyZ

thats all i meant by this thread, now everyones talking about bacon

This base brakes/bacon thread almost killed me!!!

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Originally Posted by LakeShow

Sounds like bacon to me.

I found the guy who started the bacon talk. Guilty as charged!!!

370zproject · 06-30-2012, 11:29 PM

i have the z1 sport package upgrade love them

im suddenly craving bacon...

nicknick · 07-01-2012, 10:51 PM

Sounds like the OP is an "interesting" person who needs "guidance".

370Z Purist · 06-30-2012, 12:26 AM

Initial bite is helpful, but making a hard stop from 75 mph would be largely unaffected. Doing the bigger brakes with SS lines, better fluid, and better initial bite would barely affect stopping distance in a significant fashion. A buddy of mine can easily lock his tires using 10 inch rotors and drum brakes. Bigger brakes only benefit in longer lasting, high heat applications, not total stopping distance. Gotta cut weight or get better rubber for that (or both).

Compdoc777 · 06-30-2012, 10:24 AM

Base brakes are bad I have searched and noticed there are no specs on stopping distance with the base brakes.

Yet, if someone here thinks the base brakes will stop in 70-0 in 157ft not happening.

The sport and Nismo can stop in 70-0 in 157ft the Camaro ZL1 does it in 159ft the corvette grand sport in 157ft.

I would like to see some tests. Surprisingly Nissan does not offer any specs on there site.

10splaya22 · 06-30-2012, 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Compdoc777

Base brakes are bad I have searched and noticed there are no specs on stopping distance with the base brakes.

Yet, if someone here thinks the base brakes will stop in 70-0 in 157ft not happening.

The sport and Nismo can stop in 70-0 in 157ft the Camaro ZL1 does it in 159ft the corvette grand sport in 157ft.

I would like to see some tests. Surprisingly Nissan does not offer any specs on there site.

Braking distance is due to the tires no the brakes. Any brakes in good working order on any new car today has the ability to lock the wheels up. The difference between brakes like the base and sport comes from reducing brake fade and pedal effort required to stop the car.

Bucketlist2012 · 06-30-2012, 01:33 PM

Our enemies don't like Bacon...

Maybe we should wrap some gifts in bacon and send them to them...

Bucketlist2012 · 06-30-2012, 01:56 PM

Honey cured, hickory smoked, thick slice...

gr8-wrx · 06-30-2012, 02:27 PM

IMHO, if you weren't on a track or AutoX, you're driving too fast for your brakes on the street anyway...

brucelidat · 06-30-2012, 03:10 PM

hey, get back on topic, we were discussing bacon here...

06-30-2012, 12:06 AM	#4 (permalink)
Nismo89 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Colora, MD Age: 36 Posts: 15,831 Drives: daily Zen and woosah Rep Power: 37387	well i would presume that you have new brakes on order? if your gonna be stopping regularly at 70 mph. then get better brakes, otherwise the regular base brakes are more than enough stopping power. no idea what caused you to have to stop suddenly at 70 plus mph but if you want to spend the cash on minimal gains over the stock brakes, (depending on what you get) go for it, i know i certainly dont go Balls out and to the wall everytime in the my car. i want to make it last and speeding on the highway is a good way to get my take taken away. lol "soft and weak" has me wondering what exactly you were doing..... lol if it was on a track id understand ...the best defense to this andto avoid is using your eyes to see whats ahead and get ready for it (change to lower speeds and gears) ( O ) ( O ) _______ __________________ Why yes.. Mike Rowe of Dirty Jobs, The Ford Commericals,Deadliest Catch.. is my cousin. Facebook i outta back hand you with my right hand! and call you btch!..... and im Left handed! Last edited by Nismo89; 06-30-2012 at 12:13 AM.*

06-30-2012, 12:20 AM	#5 (permalink)
Guard Dad Enthusiast Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: South Orange County, CA Posts: 422 Drives: 2010 370Z Silver A7 Rep Power: 15	Get the Z1 upgrade and make sure you get stainless steel brake lines, use a temperature resistant brake fluid like Motul RBF660 and select pads with aggressive initial (cold) bite. Sounds like your issues are in street driving, I suspect that your problem is one of response rather outright stopping distance. This setup should help in that regard. Once the brakes are into the ABS mode it's all up to the tires so make sure you'll got some good ones. __________________ 2010 Brilliant Silver, Base w/Sport Package, AT7, Katzkin leather, upgraded audio and lots of Dynamat and a bunch of small stuff. Last edited by Guard Dad; 07-01-2012 at 02:51 AM.

06-30-2012, 11:29 PM	#7 (permalink)
370zproject A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Memphis Age: 35 Posts: 16,104 Drives: 09 A/T 370z blue Rep Power: 54	i have the z1 sport package upgrade love them im suddenly craving bacon... __________________ Brake Upgrade Package ate blue, hawk hp ceramic pads, and slotted rotors

06-30-2012, 12:26 AM	#9 (permalink)
370Z Purist A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Zion, Illinois Posts: 1,873 Drives: '09 370Z-T BS M6 Rep Power: 20	Initial bite is helpful, but making a hard stop from 75 mph would be largely unaffected. Doing the bigger brakes with SS lines, better fluid, and better initial bite would barely affect stopping distance in a significant fashion. A buddy of mine can easily lock his tires using 10 inch rotors and drum brakes. Bigger brakes only benefit in longer lasting, high heat applications, not total stopping distance. Gotta cut weight or get better rubber for that (or both). __________________ -Phil "Since one of my brake light bulbs just went out, the forum told me that my piston rings are about to blow."

06-30-2012, 01:33 PM	#12 (permalink)
Bucketlist2012 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Northern California Posts: 1,424 Drives: 370Z Touring/Sport Rep Power: 17	Our enemies don't like Bacon... Maybe we should wrap some gifts in bacon and send them to them... __________________ 2009 Sport/Touring 370Z 1971 Z/28 with coil overs, rushforth's, willwoods, Hotchkis. 4 speed GMC Sierra1500

07-01-2012, 10:51 PM	#8 (permalink)
nicknick Enthusiast Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Australia Posts: 438 Drives: Mazda mx5 2007 6sp m Rep Power: 17	Sounds like the OP is an "interesting" person who needs "guidance".

06-30-2012, 10:24 AM	#10 (permalink)
Compdoc777 Enthusiast Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Cypress Posts: 277 Drives: 2011 Nismo #4 MB Rep Power: 14	Base brakes are bad I have searched and noticed there are no specs on stopping distance with the base brakes. Yet, if someone here thinks the base brakes will stop in 70-0 in 157ft not happening. The sport and Nismo can stop in 70-0 in 157ft the Camaro ZL1 does it in 159ft the corvette grand sport in 157ft. I would like to see some tests. Surprisingly Nissan does not offer any specs on there site.

06-30-2012, 01:56 PM	#13 (permalink)
Bucketlist2012 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Northern California Posts: 1,424 Drives: 370Z Touring/Sport Rep Power: 17	Honey cured, hickory smoked, thick slice... __________________ 2009 Sport/Touring 370Z 1971 Z/28 with coil overs, rushforth's, willwoods, Hotchkis. 4 speed GMC Sierra1500

06-30-2012, 02:27 PM	#14 (permalink)
gr8-wrx Track Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Nor Cal Posts: 611 Drives: 10 370z Roadster 7AT Rep Power: 16	IMHO, if you weren't on a track or AutoX, you're driving too fast for your brakes on the street anyway... __________________ Me: 2022 Toyota Tacoma SR5 Double-Cab SB Wifey: 2013 Toyota Highlander Limited AWD Weekends: 2010 Nissan 370z Roadster

06-30-2012, 03:10 PM	#15 (permalink)
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