My whiny little b**ch thread.

PlatinumGraph · 06-23-2012, 03:12 PM

Cue the sirens, send the guards, establish a perimeter - there is malcontent!!!

I've driven motorcycles, big diesel trucks, kubota tractors, minivans, sports cars, sedans, domestic, asian, european, airplanes, a 42 ft motorhome towing a sedan, trucks with boats and trailers - hitch, 5th wheel, and a few rather unlucky women in college. Never have I felt the need to be a whiny little bitch more than I do now with my 09 6M.

My first transmission had bad synchros and was replaced. Nice and easy, cool. My car has 14K on it, and I STILL feel like I'm getting behind the wheel for the very first time. Sometimes the gearbox will refuse to go into first at a light, I don't mind 1 to 2, but it's not a consistent feeling, and sometimes 2 is hard to get into - I feel like I have to crunch it in. Sometimes the gearbox seems to like being shifted slowly, and sometimes it needs to be shifted quickly. Sometimes the revs build quickly, other times, they are absolutely glacial. Push in the clutch, and sometimes the damned flywheel thinks it's a perpetual motion machine, and a small parasitic worm in Borneo can evolve intelligence in the time it takes for the damned revs to fall. Other times, the revs fall like Lohan on boxed wine. Today I ground the gears going into 5th on the freeway because the damned stick stopped short of the actual gear. The other day I was nearly creamed by a suv at costco because the driver reversed without warning, and my flaming pink rainbow unicorn gearbox refused to go into reverse. I had to throw it into first, rock it forward, then crunch it into reverse - but still too slow, and I had to watch with helpless horror as the white reverse lights of the expedition grew.

Having some good horsepower is no excuse for having a transmission that is hewn-by-claw-by-blind-squirrels-out-of-shale clunky. There are easy enough things that could have cheaply been designed to make the shifting experience better. Why bother putting a great suspension and a balanced chassis together with what absolutely must be the prototype to Fred Flintstone's rock-o-mobile?!

You can say that I blow as a driver - I just might, but why the heck do I blow the most with a damned sports car that's engineered to accelerate, turn-in, brake, and corner smoothly? It should be easier to drive than the others - this isn't a Gumpert Apollo, after all.

Am I knocking the car? Heck no, I love my baby! But this is a plea to Nissan to knock it off with the clunky manuals. I know it's kind of a tradition, but so is feet binding, ritual cannibalism, and head cheese. The manual is a primary way the driver interacts with the car - don't make it unpleasant.

And no, I'm not a whimp; I'm not afraid of pain, learning curves, failure, embarrassment, or large hairy spiders wearing tutus. I'm just wondering why we have to keep settling and pretending all is okay with these cement mixer manuals. We COULD have better, but over and over, it is decided that we shall not. Don't get me started on 7 speed autos and gear ratios.

This brings us to the end of my whiny little b**ch thread.

TOO LONG, DIDN'T READ: why do we have to keep settling for manual transmissions made by three year old elephants out of clay pots?

m4a1mustang · 06-23-2012, 03:17 PM

Hmm. Your transmission seems extra clunky. I know mine clunked and didn't have particularly good feel, but it wasn't like you're describing.

LafitteZ · 06-23-2012, 03:22 PM

Yoooo I completely understand what your going thru. I am now on my 3rd tranny. I had it completely rebuilt by my tranny tech here in Louisiana. It has Kevlar synchros and cryo shift forks. Also alot of other adjustments that he uses in his 240 trannys. It shift like a mofo now. I'm about 5000 miles in now no problems. Cost me about 3000 but I'm running a twin turbo setup and the trans is bad *** now.

Redglare · 06-23-2012, 03:22 PM

Most entertaining read of the month,

Has the transmission been revised since 09?

Red__Zed · 06-23-2012, 03:24 PM

The synchros are really crappy on the trans, especially the early 09s, but don't expect a reasonable response here.

The nice thing is Nissan is pretty good about taking care of it for you. Hopefully you can get hooked up with an '11+ trans before your powertrain warranty runs out.

shadoquad · 06-23-2012, 03:27 PM

:|

Red__Zed · 06-23-2012, 03:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Redglare

Most entertaining read of the month,

Has the transmission been revised since 09?

yes, several times.

There were at least 3 updates during 09, and then at least one late in the '10 run. Supposedly another during the 2011 run as well, but didn't hear about that one from the same source.

red6spd · 06-23-2012, 03:37 PM

Sorry to hear about your transmission. I will agree that the tranny is noisy and clunky, but thats how most Nissan Transmissions are. Other then the noise my tranny is warm butter smooth. 2010 with 18k and no problems at all. This is not a knock at you but I think most peoples problems stem from abuse and not properly knowing how to dirve a stick while abusing it.

Magic Bus · 06-23-2012, 04:35 PM

My whiny little b**ch thread. Can I buy a vowel???

Hope Nissan works it out for you.

bigsix · 06-23-2012, 04:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PlatinumGraph

...

Am I knocking the car? Heck no, I love my baby! But this is a plea to Nissan to knock it off with the clunky manuals. I know it's kind of a tradition, but so is feet binding, ritual cannibalism, and head cheese. The manual is a primary way the driver interacts with the car - don't make it unpleasant.

And no, I'm not a whimp; I'm not afraid of pain, learning curves, failure, embarrassment, or large hairy spiders wearing tutus. I'm just wondering why we have to keep settling and pretending all is okay with these cement mixer manuals. We COULD have better, but over and over, it is decided that we shall not. Don't get me started on 7 speed autos and gear ratios.

This brings us to the end of my whiny little b**ch thread.

TOO LONG, DIDN'T READ: why do we have to keep settling for manual transmissions made by three year old elephants out of clay pots?

Is it tradition for Nissan to make less than great Manual transmissions ? ? ? or is this specific to the Z . ? .

I think Nissan makes good automatic transmissions. They hook up nicely with their V6 engines.

IDZRVIT · 06-23-2012, 04:41 PM

My '09 and current '10 MT works just fine even when I go through the gears shifting at 7000 rpm. Did you buy your car used?

onzedge · 06-23-2012, 04:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Redglare

Most entertaining read of the month,

Has the transmission been revised since 09?

It is funny stuff. I am sorry for your troubles. I don't think I like his thinly veiled diaparaging comment about ritual cannibalism though.

Jimmyusmc · 06-23-2012, 04:56 PM

Is that issue only with the 6MT or also with 7AT as well?

IDZRVIT · 06-23-2012, 04:58 PM

What issue other than it clunks in 1st?

DarkZ · 06-23-2012, 04:59 PM

I too, seem to have an annoying, noisy box.... My transmission is kinda klunky too!

THANK YOUuuuuuuu, I'll be here all night.

06-23-2012, 03:12 PM	#1 (permalink)
PlatinumGraph Base Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: San Jose Posts: 5 Drives: 09 370z M6 PG Rep Power: 14	My whiny little bch thread. Cue the sirens, send the guards, establish a perimeter - there is malcontent!!! I've driven motorcycles, big diesel trucks, kubota tractors, minivans, sports cars, sedans, domestic, asian, european, airplanes, a 42 ft motorhome towing a sedan, trucks with boats and trailers - hitch, 5th wheel, and a few rather unlucky women in college. Never have I felt the need to be a whiny little bitch more than I do now with my 09 6M. My first transmission had bad synchros and was replaced. Nice and easy, cool. My car has 14K on it, and I STILL feel like I'm getting behind the wheel for the very first time. Sometimes the gearbox will refuse to go into first at a light, I don't mind 1 to 2, but it's not a consistent feeling, and sometimes 2 is hard to get into - I feel like I have to crunch it in. Sometimes the gearbox seems to like being shifted slowly, and sometimes it needs to be shifted quickly. Sometimes the revs build quickly, other times, they are absolutely glacial. Push in the clutch, and sometimes the damned flywheel thinks it's a perpetual motion machine, and a small parasitic worm in Borneo can evolve intelligence in the time it takes for the damned revs to fall. Other times, the revs fall like Lohan on boxed wine. Today I ground the gears going into 5th on the freeway because the damned stick stopped short of the actual gear. The other day I was nearly creamed by a suv at costco because the driver reversed without warning, and my flaming pink rainbow unicorn gearbox refused to go into reverse. I had to throw it into first, rock it forward, then crunch it into reverse - but still too slow, and I had to watch with helpless horror as the white reverse lights of the expedition grew. Having some good horsepower is no excuse for having a transmission that is hewn-by-claw-by-blind-squirrels-out-of-shale clunky. There are easy enough things that could have cheaply been designed to make the shifting experience better. Why bother putting a great suspension and a balanced chassis together with what absolutely must be the prototype to Fred Flintstone's rock-o-mobile?! You can say that I blow as a driver - I just might, but why the heck do I blow the most with a damned sports car that's engineered to accelerate, turn-in, brake, and corner smoothly? It should be easier to drive than the others - this isn't a Gumpert Apollo, after all. Am I knocking the car? Heck no, I love my baby! But this is a plea to Nissan to knock it off with the clunky manuals. I know it's kind of a tradition, but so is feet binding, ritual cannibalism, and head cheese. The manual is a primary way the driver interacts with the car - don't make it unpleasant. And no, I'm not a whimp; I'm not afraid of pain, learning curves, failure, embarrassment, or large hairy spiders wearing tutus. I'm just wondering why we have to keep settling and pretending all is okay with these cement mixer manuals. We COULD have better, but over and over, it is decided that we shall not. Don't get me started on 7 speed autos and gear ratios. This brings us to the end of my whiny little bch thread. TOO LONG, DIDN'T READ: why do we have to keep settling for manual transmissions made by three year old elephants out of clay pots?

06-23-2012, 03:17 PM	#2 (permalink)
m4a1mustang A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Northern VA Posts: 55,385 Drives: on two wheels Rep Power: 6963	Hmm. Your transmission seems extra clunky. I know mine clunked and didn't have particularly good feel, but it wasn't like you're describing. __________________ - Steve Zs & Coffee - Saturdays at 10AM in Fairfax, VA and Columbia, MD (Click the banner!) LIKE us on Facebook!

06-23-2012, 03:37 PM	#8 (permalink)
red6spd A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Long Island NY Posts: 3,277 Drives: 2010 Z Coupe M6 SPT Rep Power: 22	Sorry to hear about your transmission. I will agree that the tranny is noisy and clunky, but thats how most Nissan Transmissions are. Other then the noise my tranny is warm butter smooth. 2010 with 18k and no problems at all. This is not a knock at you but I think most peoples problems stem from abuse and not properly knowing how to dirve a stick while abusing it. __________________ 2010 Base+Sport 6spd: Stillen G3, FI Non-Resonated CBE, FI Non-Resonated Test Pipes, UpRev Tuned, Custom 24R Oil Cooler, JDM Rear Fog-OEM Harness. ???Whp ???WTQ (Will find out come spring time)

06-23-2012, 04:41 PM	#11 (permalink)
IDZRVIT A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2009 Location: Halifax Posts: 1,659 Drives: '13 CTS-V, '76 Vette Rep Power: 28	My '09 and current '10 MT works just fine even when I go through the gears shifting at 7000 rpm. Did you buy your car used? __________________ "America.... still builds rockets!" Vette: 355 cid, 400 rwhp '13 CTS-V Coupe: 6.2L LSA, 556HP

06-23-2012, 04:58 PM	#14 (permalink)
IDZRVIT A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2009 Location: Halifax Posts: 1,659 Drives: '13 CTS-V, '76 Vette Rep Power: 28	What issue other than it clunks in 1st? __________________ "America.... still builds rockets!" Vette: 355 cid, 400 rwhp '13 CTS-V Coupe: 6.2L LSA, 556HP

06-23-2012, 03:22 PM	#3 (permalink)
LafitteZ Track Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: lafitte, la Posts: 698 Drives: 40th anniversary Rep Power: 16	Yoooo I completely understand what your going thru. I am now on my 3rd tranny. I had it completely rebuilt by my tranny tech here in Louisiana. It has Kevlar synchros and cryo shift forks. Also alot of other adjustments that he uses in his 240 trannys. It shift like a mofo now. I'm about 5000 miles in now no problems. Cost me about 3000 but I'm running a twin turbo setup and the trans is bad *** now.

06-23-2012, 03:22 PM	#4 (permalink)
Redglare Enthusiast Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: FL Posts: 387 Drives: C172 Skyhawk GIII Rep Power: 176	Most entertaining read of the month, Has the transmission been revised since 09?

06-23-2012, 03:24 PM	#5 (permalink)
Red__Zed A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: window seat Posts: 28,940 Drives: Mostly on two wheels Rep Power: 121	The synchros are really crappy on the trans, especially the early 09s, but don't expect a reasonable response here. The nice thing is Nissan is pretty good about taking care of it for you. Hopefully you can get hooked up with an '11+ trans before your powertrain warranty runs out.

06-23-2012, 03:27 PM	#6 (permalink)
shadoquad A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: . Posts: 42,608 Drives: . Rep Power: 3887	:\|

06-23-2012, 04:35 PM	#9 (permalink)
Magic Bus A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2012 Location: Honolulu Posts: 1,427 Drives: 17 6MT M2 Rep Power: 18755	My whiny little b**ch thread. Can I buy a vowel??? Hope Nissan works it out for you.

06-23-2012, 04:56 PM	#13 (permalink)
Jimmyusmc Base Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 68 Drives: 09 Nissan 370Z Rep Power: 14	Is that issue only with the 6MT or also with 7AT as well?

06-23-2012, 04:59 PM	#15 (permalink)
DarkZ Base Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Atlanta GA Posts: 76 Drives: 10 BCherry 6MT Sport Rep Power: 16	I too, seem to have an annoying, noisy box.... My transmission is kinda klunky too! THANK YOUuuuuuuu, I'll be here all night.

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