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nismosis 06-17-2012 06:54 PM

Anyone else not too impressed?
 
I've had my Z for about two months now and am just getting around to pushing it a bit after break in. My wife and I took a nice back roads ~200mi trip yesterday. I have to admit that I'm just not impressed at this car's acceleration. Honestly, getting up to 80mph or so under hard acceleration feels like my 240sx. I know these are not a straight line speed kind of car, but I am still expecting some put you in the back of the seat feeling. Anyone else feel this way?

m4a1mustang 06-17-2012 06:58 PM

It's deceptively quick. Power delivery is very linear. There isn't really much in the way of that pin you back in the seat "thrust" feeling. But it's fast. Just watch the needle.

shadoquad 06-17-2012 06:59 PM

This car is very stable, relatively heavy, and it is easy to get up to speed while not feeling it a whole lot. The car also has relatively low torque for the horsepower. You're through break-in, have you revved her past 5k?

Plus, find some corners to come out of, it should brighten your day.

Face 06-17-2012 07:29 PM

I know what the OP is talking about, and I was experiencing a little of this about a month or so after getting it.

Low end can definitely lack, but you keep the revs above 4500 and you'll have a smile on your face. But like it's already been said, keep your eye on the needle. It doesn't always feel like you're going fast, but you are.

Red__Zed 06-17-2012 07:31 PM

The linearity of the power delivery means you are never going to get the pinned-to-the-seat feeling you are talking about, the power comes on smooth and is relatively constant.

6MT 06-17-2012 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by nismosis (Post 1776423)
I've had my Z for about two months now and am just getting around to pushing it a bit after break in. My wife and I took a nice back roads ~200mi trip yesterday. I have to admit that I'm just not impressed at this car's acceleration. Honestly, getting up to 80mph or so under hard acceleration feels like my 240sx. I know these are not a straight line speed kind of car, but I am still expecting some put you in the back of the seat feeling. Anyone else feel this way?

At the risk of sounding like a "troller", do you really think you made the correct decision to buy a 370?

Just ask'n.

chknhawk 06-17-2012 07:42 PM

Ive always been impressed by z cars from tge early 240 to prezent. Its not a 6 liter hemi..... so i dont think you will get pinned to the seat. Price to power to weight ration i dont think there is too much in its class. Its borderline euro sport imo. Do an honest 0-60 or 0-100 test and i think you will see.... plus your not going to get a 500 whp car for under 40k... no once not never. Its definitely a track car and not a drag car. Always has been. ;-)

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Bucketlist2012 06-17-2012 07:50 PM

I drive a high horsepower V-8 and also have had many Z cars...300ZX, 350Z and now the 370Z.

The V-8's always give you torque and power down low in the RPM range, and just"pulls" you to redline.

The 300ZX and the 350Z were more in the mid range to top RPM for the fun factor, and for the feeling of a rush.

The 370Z feels slower due to the linear power band that most talk about, but yes, let it rev past 5000Rpm, and man it will feel so much better..

4 cylinders always need to rev high to make power, and the 6 cylinders also need to be revved to make power...The less cylinders, the higher you need to rev.

but the 370Z if kept in the power band, and through some turns, is a blast.

Punch it off the line and let off at 5000rpm, and it will not feel fast at all..

dastaco 06-17-2012 07:52 PM

I think you might be in the wrong gear when accelerating, if you're looking for the pinned back feel you need to be above 4500rpm. I'll agree that low down in the rpms you won't get thrown back, but if you drive the car correctly it should keep you well planted to your seat.

sonic370 06-17-2012 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by dastaco (Post 1776497)
I think you might be in the wrong gear when accelerating, if you're looking for the pinned back feel you need to be above 4500rpm. I'll agree that low down in the rpms you won't get thrown back, but if you drive the car correctly it should keep you well planted to your seat.

i agree after 4500rpm and it the right gear this car will get the job done...
i really have no problems below 4500 half the fun is getting to 4500 to 5000
by then you better be looking out for those flashing lights............

buddyZ 06-17-2012 08:18 PM

a good driver in this car can do damage, i have no problems with 335i's even.

PapoZalsa 06-17-2012 08:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nismosis (Post 1776423)
I've had my Z for about two months now and am just getting around to pushing it a bit after break in. My wife and I took a nice back roads ~200mi trip yesterday. I have to admit that I'm just not impressed at this car's acceleration. Honestly, getting up to 80mph or so under hard acceleration feels like my 240sx. I know these are not a straight line speed kind of car, but I am still expecting some put you in the back of the seat feeling. Anyone else feel this way?

I guess you bought the wrong car!
Nedlesss to say the 370Z is NO 240SX.

It might not be a muscle car but the Z will get into the 80s in no time.

DrEvil 06-17-2012 08:35 PM

Try adding HFC's , CAI's, a CBE, then let us know how it feels

Zoren 370 06-17-2012 08:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nismosis (Post 1776423)
I've had my Z for about two months now and am just getting around to pushing it a bit after break in. My wife and I took a nice back roads ~200mi trip yesterday. I have to admit that I'm just not impressed at this car's acceleration. Honestly, getting up to 80mph or so under hard acceleration feels like my 240sx. I know these are not a straight line speed kind of car, but I am still expecting some put you in the back of the seat feeling. Anyone else feel this way?


I felt that in the beginning of the break-in period going past 4T Rpm the engine is screaming as hell and the sound of sheering metal is pain in the ear.
But once I reached 3T miles the engine became much smoother. Torque has started to kick in at 4T rpm...going to 6T rpm was starting to ease up a bit and I tell you this car is like a Bullet Train!!!
220km/hr(140miles/hr) is just a breeze!
You will LOVE it as you go along I promise you.:tiphat:


Disclaimer: Reckless Driving can Kill. Be a responsible Driver

kenny's 370z 06-17-2012 08:54 PM

just traded my 5 speed manual eclipse for this z two days ago.this car definitely put me back in my seat.i am absolutely in love with this car.i expect it to get alot better once i get the drop in's and post maf pipes high flow cats and a catback.:driving:

Zoren 370 06-17-2012 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by kenny's 370z (Post 1776546)
just traded my 5 speed manual eclipse for this z two days ago.this car definitely put me back in my seat.i am absolutely in love with this car.i expect it to get alot better once i get the drop in's and post maf pipes high flow cats and a catback.:driving:


You'll definitely fall in love with it even more!
Now can't stop modding its totally addicting the adrenaline of speed.

kenny's 370z 06-17-2012 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Zoren 370 (Post 1776550)
You'll definitely fall in love with it even more!
Now can't stop modding its totally addicting the adrenaline of speed.

no doubt.i did waste a mazda6 and a volkswagon 2.0t on the way home from the dealership lol.the mazda6 was funny.he kept trying to outrun me.id slow down catch up slow down ect lol.for now,until i get all the mods done,i will take it easy somewhat.cant wait to get some high flow cats !!!

KaienZ34 06-17-2012 09:12 PM

Just check out the rest of his posts, nothing about his car is good enough for him.

kenny's 370z 06-17-2012 09:29 PM

thats too bad.if i was unhappy i would trade asap.btw im curious.how many miles can be expected to get out of this engine ?

CrownR426 06-17-2012 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Face (Post 1776463)
I know what the OP is talking about, and I was experiencing a little of this about a month or so after getting it.

Low end can definitely lack, but you keep the revs above 4500 and you'll have a smile on your face. But like it's already been said, keep your eye on the needle. It doesn't always feel like you're going fast, but you are.

:iagree:

:driving:

:happydance:

:tup:

nismosis 06-17-2012 10:18 PM

I need to get it on the track, no doubt. I know I made the right decision in buying this car, but was also very impressed with a few of the guys I know who have bought 5.0 mustangs. I'm planning on Solo in the near future and am excited to see how much better it performs there.

kenny's 370z 06-17-2012 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by nismosis (Post 1776662)
I need to get it on the track, no doubt. I know I made the right decision in buying this car, but was also very impressed with a few of the guys I know who have bought 5.0 mustangs. I'm planning on Solo in the near future and am excited to see how much better it performs there.

i wouldnt be concerned with mustangs bro.they have spark plug problems.the new ones anyway.they are a two piece and they are getting broke in the head.no good.stick with the z :tiphat:

TreeSemdyZee 06-17-2012 10:42 PM

I'm pretty pleased with the acceleration. Maybe you're looking for something with more of a jet engine acceleration.

miGzzz 06-17-2012 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by buddyZ (Post 1776518)
a good driver in this car can do damage, i have no problems with 335i's even.

Maybe against a stock 335i. Tuned 335i, no way.

blaQouT 06-17-2012 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by miGzzz (Post 1776718)
Maybe against a stock 335i. Tuned 335i, no way.

$400-$500 Tune for 80whp. wow is all I have to say.

Zoren 370 06-17-2012 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by TreeSemdyZee (Post 1776710)
I'm pretty pleased with the acceleration. Maybe you're looking for something with more of a jet engine acceleration.

:icon18:

buddyZ 06-17-2012 10:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by miGzzz (Post 1776718)
Maybe against a stock 335i. Tuned 335i, no way.

obviously stock 335i, its a faster car period but im a good driver and was impressed how i matched up. Personally if wanted to go fast in a straight line i would get a used C6 Vette.

Z_ealot 06-17-2012 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by blaQouT (Post 1776724)
$400-$500 Tune for 80whp. wow is all I have to say.

and just like anything with a turbo theres always the question of reliability, personally if i had that car i wouldnt be tuning it that amount without beefing up the internals first otherwise you are just asking for trouble in the long run

Jordo! 06-17-2012 11:07 PM

Do some basic breather mods and a tune -- there's a lot of low end grunt to be gained.

Compare and contrast.

http://www.the370z.com/members/jordo...ods-w-tune.jpg

That's with a Nismo S-tune axleback (should be comparable to Nismo factory, which can be picked up pretty cheap), K&N panel filters plus Cobb intake tubes, test pipes (or get high flow cats for similar gains), and a tune.

That's it. Factory headers and airboxes.

The tune can also radically improve throttle response.

Seriously, it's got way more potential than you think with a little time and money.

blaQouT 06-17-2012 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Z_ealot (Post 1776746)
and just like anything with a turbo theres always the question of reliability, personally if i had that car i wouldnt be tuning it that amount without beefing up the internals first otherwise you are just asking for trouble in the long run

Not as reliable as Japanese but the warranty is second to none. BMWs come with factory warranty which covers turbos, drivetrain, and more up to 4yrs/50k miles or certified pre-owned warranty which also covers turbos and drivetrain 4yrs/100k miles(lasts several years if bought used or renewed after factory warranty expiration). Countless amounts of people are running tunes (up to 80+whp) tunes without issues. Better MPG is a result. Also, there are MAP levels where you can lower the hp thru the steering wheel or iDrive interface. But without warranty, the 335i is just not worth it.

Full bolt on 335i's roughly push 410whp 420ft/lb tq give or take.

The tune is also plug in play and can be taken out in about 15 min. before going to service.

harman.khinda 06-18-2012 12:08 AM

^ i was looking at a 335i for a while a bit expensive but also if your going to tune it it will void the warranty. They datalog a lot of variables including what PSI the turbos have been running. It most likely won't be a problem unless you actually break something and ask them to cover it under warranty. I was talking to they salesman and he said even a CBE will void the warranty since it alters the airflow of the car dramatically. I thought that was ridiculous. The dealerships I've dealt with don't care about CBE.

back on topic - yeah we need more torque and if bolt-on's aren't enough go for a 100 shot of NOS! =)

The straight line performance is aight but going around corners is where its at.

NissanGuy23 06-18-2012 12:15 AM

I agree with the "watch the needle" comment. Sometimes ill just be running through the gears and you look down and your like "wtf..130?". The stability is also very impressive. I have flown past 150 and the car felt as solid and controllable as it does at 60.

The acceleration didn't blow me away, but I'm fully impressed with what it can do. Everyone who rides with me says its fast, and i get comments like "snaps your head back in every gear", ect. But that is usually from people who have never really been in any kind of sports car and are super exited to be riding in it.

Also, random note, the Z's engine is rough...but sometimes at high speed i downshift and hold a steady 6500rpms...at that point it tends to be very smooth, almost no shifter vibration...lol.

see if this link works...
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=...type=2&theater
seems fast to me!

DarkJak 06-18-2012 01:50 AM

Did you test drive the car much before you bought it? It's pretty easy to test 0-60 type acceleration.

I think the best way to appreciate the speed of the car is to take some curvy roads and keep the rpm's above 4.5k by doing appropriate shifting. Pulling out of the turn is so satisfying and it definitely throws you back in the seat. Our engines rev to 7500 rpm too, which is one thing to keep in mind. If you are used to shifting at 6k or 6.5k, you'll be wasting a lot of the best part of the engine's range.

Might just be that you are used to more powerful cars though. Or stuff like the lower wind noise and stability at higher speeds due to zero lift that throws off perception of speed. 80 in this car feels as smooth as 50 in my old camry.

Face 06-18-2012 01:55 AM

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Originally Posted by miGzzz (Post 1776718)
Maybe against a stock 335i. Tuned 335i, no way.

I was initially considering a 335i but bought the Z instead. I just couldn't get over the fact that the 3-series is a girls car, and well, what does that make the 1 series? :icon17:

Truly though, I was in love with the 1 series M when I first saw it. And that acid orange color... I just really liked it. But I recently saw one in town, same color and all, and I really wasn't impressed. It just looked squished.

My friend's e92 M3, now that's a car I'd take over the Z. Exhaust on that beast sounds like a symphony of sex.

JohnsZ 06-18-2012 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by nismosis (Post 1776423)
I've had my Z for about two months now and am just getting around to pushing it a bit after break in. My wife and I took a nice back roads ~200mi trip yesterday. I have to admit that I'm just not impressed at this car's acceleration. Honestly, getting up to 80mph or so under hard acceleration feels like my 240sx. I know these are not a straight line speed kind of car, but I am still expecting some put you in the back of the seat feeling. Anyone else feel this way?

I know what you mean about the 370Z not having that feeling of "put you in the back of the seat feeling." I owned a 2012 MazdaSpeed3 and that car DID have that "put you in the back of the seat feeling" specifically when the turbo kicked in. But I traded the MS3 in after just 3 months for the 370Z which IMO offers a lot more than just a "put you in the back of the seat" kind of feeling. First of all, the Z just looks like its going 100 mph standing still. The MS3 looked like it's....well....just parked. I can feel the strength of the Z's 332 horses just by the feel and sound of it. There's no better feeling than going through the gears in a 370Z. Yes the MS3 had lots of torque but it was all in the front end. It was almost uncontrollable at times. The Z is a more predicatable but a no less exciting sports car. The precise handling in the Z can only be matched by sports cars more than twice the price which is another plus regarding the Z..it's cost. You can't get a more sports car feel for around 30K like you can in the Z. I often said that the MS3 was "stupid fast" while the 370Z is a much more "refined fast"....and much more thrilling to drive. On the highway the other day, I was doing about 70 and decided to punch it a little to catch a GT-R that had passed me. I quickly looked down at my speedometer and found myself doing 100. The Z is an sports car icon. It's fast, refined, and looks like it belongs on a track. That's not only good enough for me, it's the most beautiful, sexy, and thrilling car I've ever owned.

KaienZ34 06-18-2012 01:44 PM

It's fast from 0-120 after that it's like pushing a brick. Since the power delivery is linear it doesn't throw you back in the seat, like many have said just check out the speedo it's fast.

LakeShow 06-18-2012 02:30 PM

The car is fast, just the lack of torque doesn't give you that "neck breaking" feel, but the car picks up and is no slouch at all. Like everyone else has said, floor it and watch the speedo climb pretty quick. My brothers V10 M5 that has 507HP also does not give you that neck breaking feel because again a lack of torque only producing 380lbft of torque, but you just know your accelerating very quickly. Turbo is the new thing these days, all manufacturers are dropping them in almost every new car and that's where you'll actually feel great power because the great amount of torque.

Gauge 06-18-2012 02:57 PM

The low end RPM power of this car is lacking if we are all being honest. Some times I feel like, at low RPM's, a cheap 4 door sedan has more torque lol.

But as others have said, once you get into the mid/high RPM's this thing rips. The real problem I have with the car is throttle lag, bleh.

shadoquad 06-18-2012 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Gauge (Post 1777726)
The low end RPM power of this car is lacking if we are all being honest. Some times I feel like, at low RPM's, a cheap 4 door sedan has more torque lol.

But as others have said, once you get into the mid/high RPM's this thing rips. The real problem I have with the car is throttle lag, bleh.

From what I understand, a tune can help with throttle lag. But I don't know for sure.

bigdog1250 06-18-2012 04:34 PM

Get an exhaust! Not only will you get a nice little bump in power, but the noise will make it seem like you're going 2x faster!!!


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