Anyone else not too impressed?

NYBladeZ · 08-13-2012, 08:38 AM

Looks wise the 370z has the cobalt beat. Also, I don't know about you but I'm not a fan of torque steer. The Z is stock form is very restricted, a set of test pipes, catback, intake and a tune will really wake it up.

Haboob · 08-13-2012, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by NYBladeZ

Looks wise the 370z has the cobalt beat. Also, I don't know about you but I'm not a fan of torque steer. The Z is stock form is very restricted, a set of test pipes, catback, intake and a tune will really wake it up.

Torque steer sucks.

As for the butt-dyno, I've even lost that feeling in my SRT. You get used to it and forget it even happens.

For me, I'm looking for something more mature. I still want something I can zip around through traffic if need be, but don't necessarily need that "pin you to the seat" feeling, as I don't have it anymore with a car that does it. Plus, I want to have fun in corners rather than taking off from a dig, etc. Corners are much more fun!

Davey · 08-13-2012, 08:50 AM

What's "fast"? I think if you're not impressed with the speed of the 370Z you won't be impressed with much of anything coming out of a showroom south of $50K. You sound like you're looking for that off-idle neck-snapping torque and you probably want an LS3 for that, even the Mustang GT/Boss 302 isn't gonna do it for you for long, they're not that much quicker from the butt-dyno perspective, it's another engine you need to get up into the higher RPM range to make power, just like the Z.

OMGiGOTaZ · 08-13-2012, 09:15 AM

Actually not a bad run...
2009 Chevy Cobalt SS (2.0L Turbo) 0-60 mph 5.7 Quarter mile 13.8

BURNED!!!
2009 Nissan 370Z (Automatic) 0-60 mph 4.5 Quarter Mile 12.9

red6spd · 08-13-2012, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by OMGiGOTaZ

Actually not a bad run...
2009 Chevy Cobalt SS (2.0L Turbo) 0-60 mph 5.7 Quarter mile 13.8

BURNED!!!
2009 Nissan 370Z (Automatic) 0-60 mph 4.5 Quarter Mile 12.9

Where are these stats from?

OMGiGOTaZ · 08-13-2012, 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by red6spd

Where are these stats from?

0-60 speeds . com or something of the sort

Just google 0-60 it's the first site

red6spd · 08-13-2012, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by OMGiGOTaZ

0-60 speeds . com or something of the sort

Just google 0-60 it's the first site

I have never seen 4.5 for a Z. The best I have seen was 4.6 but usually it averages around 5 seconds. 12.9 has been achieved by like 2 or 3 people on this forum, the car really does low 13's stock. And the Cobalt is a 14 second car. I'm sure there are a few with the perfect conditions where able to dip into the 13's but 99.9% of them run 14's stock

UNKNOWN_370 · 08-13-2012, 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by red6spd

I have never seen 4.5 for a Z. The best I have seen was 4.6 but usually it averages around 5 seconds. 12.9 has been achieved by like 2 or 3 people on this forum, the car really does low 13's stock. And the Cobalt is a 14 second car. I'm sure there are a few with the perfect conditions where able to dip into the 13's but 99.9% of them run 14's stock

I seen 4.5 on a nismo stock of all cars... lol. I seen 4.4 on mine but I have a tiny bit of work done.

OMGiGOTaZ · 08-13-2012, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by red6spd

I have never seen 4.5 for a Z. The best I have seen was 4.6 but usually it averages around 5 seconds. 12.9 has been achieved by like 2 or 3 people on this forum, the car really does low 13's stock. And the Cobalt is a 14 second car. I'm sure there are a few with the perfect conditions where able to dip into the 13's but 99.9% of them run 14's stock

I've honestly never seen a Z do a run on a track in real life

But the Internet is proof

the Z will do it

NYBladeZ · 08-13-2012, 11:22 AM

I completely agree. Too many people look at the Z without understanding its character, it is not straight line first kind of car. The exhaust needs to go, its too restrictive to meet emissions after that coilovers and a tune to improve driveability and you have a car that will feel really really good.

ZMan8 · 08-13-2012, 11:49 AM

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It's all about perspective. I've been a happy 370Z owner for years now, but my mind wonders about other cars after I read the car mags, watch YouTube videos, and go to track days with faster cars all around. It's easy to feel like the Z is chop liver as time moves along. So much so that I went and test drove an E92 M3 and a Cadillac CTS-V last weekend. At the end of the day, my perspective had changed once again. Both cars were great cars. The M3 was just one notch faster than the Z (read: slightly faster but not dramatically so) while the CTS-V pulled like a beast. But the steering feel of the M3 was good but not as connected as the Z (I know, I know, it can't be so). Also, the interior was lackluster and boring...nothing that makes you inspired and connected to the car. The CTS-V couldn't disguise its extra 1000 lbs and felt like a behemoth in corners and braking. Wrapping in the price of these cars being double the Z's, I drove home in my 370Z again assured that I had made the right purchase 3 years ago. I can enjoy my Z as a daily driver, track car, and autocross car and never feel bad about abusing a really expensive vehicle. The CTS-V and even M3 are less than optimal for autocross while the Z shines. The Z can hold its own in corners and braking zones at track days, only to be trumped on long straights. I definitely bought the right car.

That's my kind of response right There! Well said.

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cossie1600 · 08-13-2012, 04:39 PM

How are people measuring the 0-60 time? How do you assure the road is flat and speedo is accurate?

Red__Zed · 08-13-2012, 07:11 PM

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How are people measuring the 0-60 time? How do you assure the road is flat and speedo is accurate?

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cossie1600 · 08-13-2012, 09:31 PM

at 1hz per sec, you aren't going to get down to the tenth every time unfortunately....

KERMIT · 08-13-2012, 09:53 PM

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at 1hz per sec, you aren't going to get down to the tenth every time unfortunately....

Hertz = one per second... Per second!

08-13-2012, 08:38 AM	#1 (permalink)
NYBladeZ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: New York Posts: 2,158 Drives: Lotus Exige S Rep Power: 21	Looks wise the 370z has the cobalt beat. Also, I don't know about you but I'm not a fan of torque steer. The Z is stock form is very restricted, a set of test pipes, catback, intake and a tune will really wake it up. __________________ 2009 Carbon Fiber/Red 370z aka Trish: Sports Package, Meisterschaft full catback, Fast Intentions Longtube Headers, Injen Long Tube Intakes, UpRev Tune: Sold 2008 Lotus Exige S Club Racer aka Bella, always leaves me smiling

08-13-2012, 09:15 AM	#4 (permalink)
OMGiGOTaZ Enthusiast Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Florida Posts: 316 Drives: 12 370Z Auto Sport Rep Power: 13	Actually not a bad run... 2009 Chevy Cobalt SS (2.0L Turbo) 0-60 mph 5.7 Quarter mile 13.8 BURNED!!! 2009 Nissan 370Z (Automatic) 0-60 mph 4.5 Quarter Mile 12.9 __________________ all you gotta do is...

08-13-2012, 11:22 AM	#10 (permalink)
NYBladeZ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: New York Posts: 2,158 Drives: Lotus Exige S Rep Power: 21	I completely agree. Too many people look at the Z without understanding its character, it is not straight line first kind of car. The exhaust needs to go, its too restrictive to meet emissions after that coilovers and a tune to improve driveability and you have a car that will feel really really good. __________________ 2009 Carbon Fiber/Red 370z aka Trish: Sports Package, Meisterschaft full catback, Fast Intentions Longtube Headers, Injen Long Tube Intakes, UpRev Tune: Sold 2008 Lotus Exige S Club Racer aka Bella, always leaves me smiling

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Davey A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Indiana Posts: 3,766 Drives: '15 NISMO 6MT Rep Power: 117172	What's "fast"? I think if you're not impressed with the speed of the 370Z you won't be impressed with much of anything coming out of a showroom south of $50K. You sound like you're looking for that off-idle neck-snapping torque and you probably want an LS3 for that, even the Mustang GT/Boss 302 isn't gonna do it for you for long, they're not that much quicker from the butt-dyno perspective, it's another engine you need to get up into the higher RPM range to make power, just like the Z.

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cossie1600 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: californee way Posts: 5,380 Drives: 370, Leaf Rep Power: 31	How are people measuring the 0-60 time? How do you assure the road is flat and speedo is accurate?

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