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I feel like I have to clear some things up after reading last couple pages...first of all, I never meant to raise all this unrest over the start up delay.

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Old 06-02-2012, 09:35 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I feel like I have to clear some things up after reading last couple pages...first of all, I never meant to raise all this unrest over the start up delay. I think it's a minor issue but still felt it should be brought up to inform everyone and to have some help analyzing. Your car isn't going to blow up because there's a start up delay.

Second point I need to clear up with MY issue is that I have definitely had start up issues when the clutch hasn't been pressed all the way and in those cases the car usually does not start until the start button is pressed AGAIN. I had that issue before pulling the fuse and this delay is definitely NOT that issue.

When I press the button I never change the position of the clutch NOR do I ever press the button again. I press the button once and keep the clutch pressed in. The car starts 3-5 seconds later.

Also important to note, this does NOT happen all the time but seems like it happens more often when the car has been off for a little while.

Baer, I think you now realize that there may be a delay but you were really defensive in the beginning without really reading and understanding my facts. Just realize that I'm not here arguing with you I actually am really appreciative of what you guys discovered and want what's best for the community.

The obvious reason that this start up delay would exist is from the CPU waiting for confirmation/communication of the steering lock but not getting one in a timely manner and "timing out" and starting the car anyway. This doesn't explain why it doesn't happen every single time though, that's what's weird to me at this point.
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I feel like I have to clear some things up after reading last couple pages...first of all, I never meant to raise all this unrest over the start up delay. I think it's a minor issue but still felt it should be brought up to inform everyone and to have some help analyzing. Your car isn't going to blow up because there's a start up delay.

Second point I need to clear up with MY issue is that I have definitely had start up issues when the clutch hasn't been pressed all the way and in those cases the car usually does not start until the start button is pressed AGAIN. I had that issue before pulling the fuse and this delay is definitely NOT that issue.

When I press the button I never change the position of the clutch NOR do I ever press the button again. I press the button once and keep the clutch pressed in. The car starts 3-5 seconds later.

Also important to note, this does NOT happen all the time but seems like it happens more often when the car has been off for a little while.

Baer, I think you now realize that there may be a delay but you were really defensive in the beginning without really reading and understanding my facts. Just realize that I'm not here arguing with you I actually am really appreciative of what you guys discovered and want what's best for the community.

The obvious reason that this start up delay would exist is from the CPU waiting for confirmation/communication of the steering lock but not getting one in a timely manner and "timing out" and starting the car anyway. This doesn't explain why it doesn't happen every single time though, that's what's weird to me at this point.


I get defensive b/c I know that if it was a electrical issue like waiting for a signal then yes it would do it EVERY time but I have had this issue with my 7AT with the fuse in (b/c I have the upgraded "D" lock) I took a look at the wiring diagrams to see what role the steering lock relay has in this,now on the other thread there have been comments that this is the cause and bad things will happen b/c you Fvcked with the IDPM even though this is there opinion I still think it is reckless to post it on the net b/c everybody reads into it,I'm reading the wiring diagram plus I'm going to go to Nissan and have him read it with the fuse out the Consult 3 ( I know people there personally )so I should get a straight answer.
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I get defensive b/c I know that if it was a electrical issue like waiting for a signal then yes it would do it EVERY time but I have had this issue with my 7AT with the fuse in (b/c I have the upgraded "D" lock) I took a look at the wiring diagrams to see what role the steering lock relay has in this,now on the other thread there have been comments that this is the cause and bad things will happen b/c you Fvcked with the IDPM even though this is there opinion I still think it is reckless to post it on the net b/c everybody reads into it,I'm reading the wiring diagram plus I'm going to go to Nissan and have him read it with the fuse out the Consult 3 ( I know people there personally )so I should get a straight answer.
look forward on hearing what Nissan has to say...btw i had the delay again this morning. It doesn't happen all the time but it's been happening often enough after removing the fuse that i'm convinced that's the cause bro.

Also, i look at it more as a "computer communication" issue rather than some kind of "electrical" malfunction which is what's scaring people i think but i think we're on the same page with that.
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