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The 13 will be out in a couple of months. It will most likely run 2 model years. The new infinit will be out early next year. So its not

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The 13 will be out in a couple of months. It will most likely run 2 model years. The new infinit will be out early next year. So its not that far away. Braking on standard brakes is 118ft and 101ft is with S tune pads on sport brakes. I have that option. On standard its 103ft. The sport pkg brakes are just a part of it. 19" forged rays eng. Wheels (volk), vlsd, and potenzas which are very sticky on the street. The base Z gets about .94g on a skidpad. A sport pkg 1.01g. Big difference.

Also, the 350z wasn't just a raised hood. The engine was redesigned to be the VQ35hr. Which the 3.7 is the bored out version of the same engine along with vvel technology. There were upgrades in interior quality as well.

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The 13 will be out in a couple of months. It will most likely run 2 model years. The new infinit will be out early next year. So its not that far away. Braking on standard brakes is 118ft and 101ft is with S tune pads on sport brakes. I have that option. On standard its 103ft. The sport pkg brakes are just a part of it. 19" forged rays eng. Wheels (volk), vlsd, and potenzas which are very sticky on the street. The base Z gets about .94g on a skidpad. A sport pkg 1.01g. Big difference.

Also, the 350z wasn't just a raised hood. The engine was redesigned to be the VQ35hr. Which the 3.7 is the bored out version of the same engine along with vvel technology. There were upgrades in interior quality as well.
118ft? I had no idea there was that much performance difference between the two braking set ups. I assumed it meant that the brakes would be fade resistant and would sequel when they were not properly warmed up.

Since this car does not have the sport package, can anyone recommend anything that would decrease the stopping distance without having to invest in a BBK?
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118ft? I had no idea there was that much performance difference between the two braking set ups. I assumed it meant that the brakes would be fade resistant and would sequel when they were not properly warmed up.

Since this car does not have the sport package, can anyone recommend anything that would decrease the stopping distance without having to invest in a BBK?
The stock brake will have harder initial bite and won't fade on the street under normal conditions or mild aggressive driving. Get into it and well, they're stock brakes. Akebono sport brakes (sport pkg) will never fade on the street and with proper pads won't ever fade on a track. Add a brake cooling kit and you are unstoppable brake-wise for a relatively low cost. Something you will never achieve with the stock brakes.

You have 2 choices for better brake performance that won't brake the bank.

1. EBC dimpled slotted rotors made for non sport only Z's (makes no fkin sense y we don't have) yellow stuff brake pads and brake lines from your company of choice will add really good power to yourstock brakes. But at best, they will be good only for mild track days.

2. Buy a used or new set of the OEM sport brake kit. New you can go to your dealership or Z1 motorsports. Used, you can look on the forum. The stock OEM brakes give you the same stopping power and reliabilty as the aftermarket with some minor mods. (Upgraded rotors and pads) stillen brake cooling is important no matter which BBk you go for. The general car design won't allow for proper cooling in extreme conditions without the cooling kit. Its only $300. You can probably fashion your own for half the price?

But don't believe Z hater hype about the brakes not being good enough. If you know the weaknesses? Its a relatively cheap weakness to overcome. And considering that after the mods your braking from 60mph can be as fast as sub 100ft? These are excellent brakes. One of the best in the industry. Just pick your brake mods wisely and always do brakes and possibly suspension before engine.
(GENERALLY SPEAKING, If people aren't addressing their stopping before go power and they want to track? Then I don't know where peoples common sense is @. )
Secondly. I would always modify stock brakes for betterbrake handling just cuz. Its not just about the sport. It may save your or someone elses life.
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The stock brake will have harder initial bite and won't fade on the street under normal conditions or mild aggressive driving. Get into it and well, they're stock brakes. Akebono sport brakes (sport pkg) will never fade on the street and with proper pads won't ever fade on a track. Add a brake cooling kit and you are unstoppable brake-wise for a relatively low cost. Something you will never achieve with the stock brakes.

You have 2 choices for better brake performance that won't brake the bank.

1. EBC dimpled slotted rotors made for non sport only Z's (makes no fkin sense y we don't have) yellow stuff brake pads and brake lines from your company of choice will add really good power to yourstock brakes. But at best, they will be good only for mild track days.

2. Buy a used or new set of the OEM sport brake kit. New you can go to your dealership or Z1 motorsports. Used, you can look on the forum. The stock OEM brakes give you the same stopping power and reliabilty as the aftermarket with some minor mods. (Upgraded rotors and pads) stillen brake cooling is important no matter which BBk you go for. The general car design won't allow for proper cooling in extreme conditions without the cooling kit. Its only $300. You can probably fashion your own for half the price?

But don't believe Z hater hype about the brakes not being good enough. If you know the weaknesses? Its a relatively cheap weakness to overcome. And considering that after the mods your braking from 60mph can be as fast as sub 100ft? These are excellent brakes. One of the best in the industry. Just pick your brake mods wisely and always do brakes and possibly suspension before engine.
(GENERALLY SPEAKING, If people aren't addressing their stopping before go power and they want to track? Then I don't know where peoples common sense is @. )
Secondly. I would always modify stock brakes for betterbrake handling just cuz. Its not just about the sport. It may save your or someone elses life.
Incredibly useful post, thank you. I'll be frank, I won't ever take the car to the track, however, the idea of sub 100ft braking get's me as I am a bit of a safety nut.

Found this link from Z1 (Z1 Akebono Sport Brake Upgrade Package), and I think it may be the best option.

If you're not intending to track the car, would the upgrade to the sport brakes be enough or should I still consider the brake cooling kit from Stillen?

I was considering buying their (Stillen) exhaust until I realized my exhaust money might be better off going towards brakes, hahahaha.
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Incredibly useful post, thank you. I'll be frank, I won't ever take the car to the track, however, the idea of sub 100ft braking get's me as I am a bit of a safety nut.

Found this link from Z1 (Z1 Akebono Sport Brake Upgrade Package), and I think it may be the best option.

If you're not intending to track the car, would the upgrade to the sport brakes be enough or should I still consider the brake cooling kit from Stillen?

I was considering buying their (Stillen) exhaust until I realized my exhaust money might be better off going towards brakes, hahahaha.
RE: If you're not intending to track the car, would the upgrade to the sport brakes be enough or should I still consider the brake cooling kit from Stillen?

I'll say no you do not. I did it exclusively for the track.
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Incredibly useful post, thank you. I'll be frank, I won't ever take the car to the track, however, the idea of sub 100ft braking get's me as I am a bit of a safety nut.

Found this link from Z1 (Z1 Akebono Sport Brake Upgrade Package), and I think it may be the best option.

If you're not intending to track the car, would the upgrade to the sport brakes be enough or should I still consider the brake cooling kit from Stillen?

I was considering buying their (Stillen) exhaust until I realized my exhaust money might be better off going towards brakes, hahahaha.

If your not intending to track... the EBC option on a non-sport Z would work. I am a strong proponent of purchasing the sport pkg. But I won't tell you its an absolute must if you won't track and you like the base Z.
That said. I would also seriously consider a G37. You might find it more comfortable. In the case of the G, what your second mod after brakes would be a good coilover. KW, HKS and JIC are the best for the G. Just something to ponder... removing the midpipe resonator is a good temporary mod while you ponder on exhausts.
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