FK'D by Nissan

BanningZ · 06-15-2009, 02:41 AM

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Originally Posted by NotmyGTR

Yes it was found. The OEM filter will not hold a seal. They tried filter after filter and the all leaked. The M1-110 Mobile 1 filter held a seal.

This info needs to be stickied. If that happen with multiple oem filters with you, your not the only one that's gonna have this problem.

Perhaps it would be wise for owners to request a filter other than oem right off the bat. I wonder if dealerships are gonna be difficult when it comes to retaining the factory warranty.

Kind of hard to retain a factory warranty, when the warranted parts break.

Way to go Nissan

kannibul · 06-15-2009, 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by BanningZ

This info needs to be stickied. If that happen with multiple oem filters with you, your not the only one that's gonna have this problem.

Perhaps it would be wise for owners to request a filter other than oem right off the bat. I wonder if dealerships are gonna be difficult when it comes to retaining the factory warranty.

Kind of hard to retain a factory warranty, when the warranted parts break.

Way to go Nissan

+1

Granted, part of an oil change is to ensure there are no leaks...but, I know myself, I don't check for leaks until at least a day or so later...

TheWeatherman · 06-15-2009, 07:52 AM

If it makes you feel any better/worse, my '09 FX35 started leaking oil moderately this winter while starting it when it was -10 below. I took it to the dealer immediately and they noticed that the seal was the problem. Put on a new one, and wallah. No leaks. This happened well after I had my oil changed. It was an OEM filter. Never have had problems in the past. Maybe it was a bad batch.

chubbs · 06-15-2009, 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by NotmyGTR

Yes it was found. The OEM filter will not hold a seal. They tried filter after filter and the all leaked. The M1-110 Mobile 1 filter held a seal.

That is VERY SCARY.

Do you know what the dealer is doing about it?

...and this problem should definitely be made into a sticky of some kind.

Coincidentally (and nothing to do with this issue) I have an OEM filter for my 350z sitting right in front of me as I type!

batman_4 · 06-14-2009, 11:56 PM

^ glad it was fixed. btw what dealer/city in texas was this at?

NotmyGTR · 06-15-2009, 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by batman_4

^ glad it was fixed. btw what dealer/city in texas was this at?

Ed Hicks Nissan in Corpus Christi. Im headed over there in about an hour to have a chat with the service manager and get him to make an entry in my service manual that an OEM filter will not hold a seal. And of course, make him sign it as well. Future problems with this put the accountability on Nissan and not me. Will post the results of our conversation afterwards.

armensti · 06-15-2009, 12:03 AM

stuff like this makes me regret buying a nissan

arcticreaver · 06-15-2009, 12:11 AM

can't believe the OEM filter couldn't hold a seal.

tstrick9 · 06-15-2009, 01:34 PM

The magnuson-moss warranty act states in Section 102(c) that it is "prohibited to tie arrangements that condition coverage under a written warranty on the consumer's use of an article or service identified by brand, trade, or corporate name unless that article or service is provided without charge to the consumer."
So, unless they give you the filters for free, the dealer cannot deny warranty work because of after market parts, unless THEY can prove it caused a failure.

Modshack · 06-15-2009, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by tstrick9

The magnuson-moss warranty act states in Section 102(c) that it is "prohibited to tie arrangements that condition coverage under a written warranty on the consumer's use of an article or service identified by brand, trade, or corporate name unless that article or service is provided without charge to the consumer."
So, unless they give you the filters for free, the dealer cannot deny warranty work because of after market parts, unless THEY can prove it caused a failure.

Spouting the MM act is all well and good and it's done all the time here. Unfortunately, in the REAL world, they can deny anything they want if they feel your aftermarket part caused a failure..This puts it back on the consumer to PROVE the part was not the cause. Got money for an expert witness and time to pursue this? All this on your dime through a lengthy court procedure BTW......

tstrick9 · 06-15-2009, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Modshack

Spouting the MM act is all well and good and it's done all the time here. Unfortunately, in the REAL world, they can deny anything they want if they feel your aftermarket part caused a failure..This puts it back on the consumer to PROVE the part was not the cause. Got money for an expert witness and time to pursue this? All this on your dime through a lengthy court procedure BTW......

So, have you had a dealer void your warranty for an aftermarket oil filter?

Modshack · 06-15-2009, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by tstrick9

So, have you had a dealer void your warranty for an aftermarket oil filter?

I don't use a dealer for any servicing at all, not even the free lifetime oil changes that came with my purchase. You can see where "free" got NotmyGTR...

I will say, that a few years ago some fancy chromed oil filters came out for the Honda Goldwing Motorcycle. These resulted in major engine faiures and were NOT covered under warranty (I worked for the Honda M/C division at the time). Any faiure of the oil system or related parts with an aftermarket filter on the vehicle would certainly be reasons for denial. That said, oiling faiures are pretty few and far between..I do not use the Nissan filter.

kannibul · 06-15-2009, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Modshack

I don't use a dealer for any servicing at all, not even the free lifetime oil changes that came with my purchase. You can see where "free" got NotmyGTR...

I will say, that a few years ago some fancy chromed oil filters came out for the Honda Goldwing Motorcycle. These resulted in major engine faiures and were NOT covered under warranty (I worked for the Honda M/C division at the time). Any faiure of the oil system or related parts with an aftermarket filter on the vehicle would certainly be reasons for denial. That said, oiling faiures are pretty few and far between..I do not use the Nissan filter.

Honda is pretty bad about MC warranties.

That said, that incident you describe should have resulted in a class action lawsuit, where the owners got warranty repairs, and lawyers made a lot of money...

travisjb · 06-16-2009, 12:48 AM

I love it... that dude has probably bullied his staff and his customers for years... he needs more customers like you! Nice job

NotmyGTR · 06-16-2009, 09:50 AM

Just believe in getting what I pay for. And it will be a cold day in hell before I let somebody talk to me like a two year old that broke a lamp.

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batman_4 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: McAllen Tx. Posts: 1,038 Drives: '09 PW 370Z Rep Power: 368	^ glad it was fixed. btw what dealer/city in texas was this at? __________________ '09 6spd. Touring: Eibach / SPC / Motordyne / Berk / Z1 / Oneighty / Mines / SSR / Stillen / CFE

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06-15-2009, 07:52 AM	#3 (permalink)
TheWeatherman Enthusiast Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Milwaukee, WI Posts: 265 Drives: 2009 370Z 6MTw/Sport Rep Power: 17	If it makes you feel any better/worse, my '09 FX35 started leaking oil moderately this winter while starting it when it was -10 below. I took it to the dealer immediately and they noticed that the seal was the problem. Put on a new one, and wallah. No leaks. This happened well after I had my oil changed. It was an OEM filter. Never have had problems in the past. Maybe it was a bad batch.

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armensti Enthusiast Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: CA Posts: 447 Drives: 370Z/Tring/Spt/6MT Rep Power: 17	stuff like this makes me regret buying a nissan

06-15-2009, 01:34 PM	#9 (permalink)
tstrick9 Base Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: north carolina Posts: 45 Drives: 2003 cobra, 2006 tb Rep Power: 17	The magnuson-moss warranty act states in Section 102(c) that it is "prohibited to tie arrangements that condition coverage under a written warranty on the consumer's use of an article or service identified by brand, trade, or corporate name unless that article or service is provided without charge to the consumer." So, unless they give you the filters for free, the dealer cannot deny warranty work because of after market parts, unless THEY can prove it caused a failure.