Seriously?

buddyZ · 05-07-2012, 09:32 PM

leasing a 2012 Z for 320 a month, no sport package but what a steal!! im thankful but there is no doubt that the gas mileage is absolutely terrible in my opinion, crappy speakers and drivers side view is not to much of a biggie. Overall coming from a supercharged s2000 and E55 amg this car is EPIC.

Vbp6US · 05-07-2012, 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by buddyZ

leasing a 2012 Z for 320 a month, no sport package but what a steal!! im thankful but there is no doubt that the gas mileage is absolutely terrible in my opinion, crappy speakers and drivers side view is not to much of a biggie. Overall coming from a supercharged s2000 and E55 amg this car is EPIC.

Baller.

UNKNOWN_370 · 05-07-2012, 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by buddyZ

leasing a 2012 Z for 320 a month, no sport package but what a steal!! im thankful but there is no doubt that the gas mileage is absolutely terrible in my opinion, crappy speakers and drivers side view is not to much of a biggie. Overall coming from a supercharged s2000 and E55 amg this car is EPIC.

Hahahaa.... the radio is my biggest pet peeve. I hate it. I think for Z money, they could have done better. But aftermaket stereos rock, so its all good

cossie1600 · 05-07-2012, 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed

this is the problem every time the fuel starve issue comes up. Most people here have apparently never been in a car driven anywhere near the limit.

probably has the vdc on...

11Thumper · 05-07-2012, 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

Hahahaa.... the radio is my biggest pet peeve. I hate it. I think for Z money, they could have done better. But aftermaket stereos rock, so its all good

I rented a Versa it had the exact same radio. Mine is getting swapped within a couple weeks

MacLean · 05-07-2012, 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by 11Thumper

I rented a Versa it had the exact same radio. Mine is getting swapped within a couple weeks

+1.......

Zoren 370 · 05-08-2012, 04:39 AM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

Hahahaa.... the radio is my biggest pet peeve. I hate it. I think for Z money, they could have done better. But aftermaket stereos rock, so its all good

Hahaha...who needs a radio anyway??? Hearing the exhaust notes in my Z is an orchestra to me. Who cares about a radio its a sports car for crying out loud. But that is just me, OK No hard feelings.

BTW I only have the OEM exhaust for now but not for long my upgraded exhaust is on the way...
Then I'll have a CONCERT!

jazz-Z · 05-08-2012, 07:18 AM

Z_ealot pretty much nailed it. Of course there are and will be issues with the car. It is a mechanical device and parts will fail. I started reading this forum as a new Z owner in search of information about my car, what it's capabilities and limitations were. I was also interested in staying informed on TSB's and finding a support system to direct me to parts, service, and yes problems with the car.

This forum provided me with information to have my hatch springs replaced. When i was havng a problem with my brake booster, information I found as a result of a a search of this forum enabled me to diagnose the problem before the service techs at the Nissan dealership. (They did replace my booster under warranty.)

To Coosie I feel for your experience with fuel starve and replied to your post, so no need to wish bad things on me. I also agree that if others have experienced this problem during the normal operation of their vehicle, then they should report the problem to Nissan and the NHTSA. However, if the problem only occurs while on the track, or "drivng the car to its limits" on the street (BTW if you are driving to the limits on the street you are definitely drivng recklessly and could lose your license if you are caught by the PoPo.) then don't blame the car, or Nissan.

The Z is NOT a race car. It is a high performance sports car that provides dependable drivng, and a reasonable amount of comfort at a low price point when compared to vehicles with equivalent performance metrics. That's it. If you want more luxury and a resulting decrease in HP/weight then buy a G37. BTW the Z was widely praised for taking a leaner, lighter approach to sports car design when it was released. This is why it has a cheaper sound system, at least in the base model, and noisy wheel wells. If you buy a Supperleggera (read superlight) Lambo I don't think they even give you a radio. If you want to track your car then you may have to make some modificaions, but why would Nissan include all of these things (oil, and transmission cooler, brake cooling ducts, mechanical differential) for specialty purposes resulting in inflated prices, and possible increases in liabilty for Nissan.

I don't modify my car, but I understand it is fashionable to do so with younger drivers, and maybe some of these guys will go on to design their own cars one day. If they do I wonder what they will think when people start to rag on their design concepts.

cossie1600 · 05-08-2012, 08:55 AM

I said I hope you don't hit fuel starve and end up being stranded on the side of the road like I did. It isn't hard to hit fuel starve given the poor design on the Nissan. And no, you can do it without having to break the speed limit as I have done. I don't have to be a Nissan fanboy because I have owned other vehicles and can be objective about things. Also as much as I love my car, the car is full of little problems that can be cure with a simple fix at the factory or design table. Yet Nissan continues to ignore the problem and have their owners foot their bill. (Hello steering lock!) Is it as bad as owning an Audi or a Chevy, probably not? At the same time, it is not a perfect vehicle that some of you guys perceive it to be.

I do 100% agree with you that the car gives a lot of performance for the buck. You are absolutely right that some parts are strictly on the owners if they wish to track their vehicle (pads/brake duct/oil cooler). Yet you have items like the steering lock, abs ice mode and fuel pump design that should have be addressed to begin with. They are all potential safety hazard, so not sure why Nissan refused to address it. Well I understand why because I dealt with them in the past on other vehicles, let's just say I now understand why I paid so little for my Z cars and so much for my Mercedes.

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Originally Posted by jazz-Z

To Coosie I feel for your experience with fuel starve and replied to your post, so no need to wish bad things on me. I also agree that if others have experienced this problem during the normal operation of their vehicle, then they should report the problem to Nissan and the NHTSA. However, if the problem only occurs while on the track, or "drivng the car to its limits" on the street (BTW if you are driving to the limits on the street you are definitely drivng recklessly and could lose your license if you are caught by the PoPo.) then don't blame the car, or Nissan.

The Z is NOT a race car. It is a high performance sports car that provides dependable drivng, and a reasonable amount of comfort at a low price point when compared to vehicles with equivalent performance metrics. That's it. If you want more luxury and a resulting decrease in HP/weight then buy a G37. BTW the Z was widely praised for taking a leaner, lighter approach to sports car design when it was released. This is why it has a cheaper sound system, at least in the base model, and noisy wheel wells. If you buy a Supperleggera (read superlight) Lambo I don't think they even give you a radio. If you want to track your car then you may have to make some modificaions, but why would Nissan include all of these things (oil, and transmission cooler, brake cooling ducts, mechanical differential) for specialty purposes resulting in inflated prices, and possible increases in liabilty for Nissan.

UNKNOWN_370 · 05-08-2012, 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by cossie1600

I said I hope you don't hit fuel starve and end up being stranded on the side of the road like I did. It isn't hard to hit fuel starve given the poor design on the Nissan. And no, you can do it without having to break the speed limit as I have done. I don't have to be a Nissan fanboy because I have owned other vehicles and can be objective about things. Also as much as I love my car, the car is full of little problems that can be cure with a simple fix at the factory or design table. Yet Nissan continues to ignore the problem and have their owners foot their bill. (Hello steering lock!) Is it as bad as owning an Audi or a Chevy, probably not? At the same time, it is not a perfect vehicle that some of you guys perceive it to be.

I do 100% agree with you that the car gives a lot of performance for the buck. You are absolutely right that some parts are strictly on the owners if they wish to track their vehicle (pads/brake duct/oil cooler). Yet you have items like the steering lock, abs ice mode and fuel pump design that should have be addressed to begin with. They are all potential safety hazard, so not sure why Nissan refused to address it. Well I understand why because I dealt with them in the past on other vehicles, let's just say I now understand why I paid so little for my Z cars and so much for my Mercedes.

Did you really have to downgrade to a nissan 370z to understand the quality differences thru price difference between, mercedes and nissan??? And if you were benz'in it up? Why not just go porsche cayman and/lotus??? See comments like that one take validity away from a very valid post. I feel your pain and agony with this issue. I'd hate to suffer it. But truth is, you are one of EXTREMELY FEW, normal driving incidents. And automatically you feel. If we haven't had it happen its because we drive in a way to prevent it or we drive in a fashion unbefitting of a sports car. Just accept it hasn't happened to us. There's no FANBOYISM or LACK of EXPERIENCE behind not having experiencing it. Some guys either just got lucky? (Possibly me) MAYBE an extreme situation like yours is a freak occurance??? But either way, Nissan should address this issue due to its catastrphic level. But even Ferrari 458 italia suddenly combusted for nearly 18 months. Yes issues are at least being resolved by ferrari.

But like I said. Go to the dealer. Rant to them for a fix. And get forum backing. I'm sure your Z brothers will do what they have to... tell them about the severity of the issue and you are ready to contact a lawyer. Most recalls happen by someone contacting a lawyer. Whenever there is a possible threat for class action is when they get crackin' You know this right??? (Which I suggest). Just complaining to fellow Z owners won't get the issue resolved.

05-08-2012, 07:18 AM	#8 (permalink)
jazz-Z Base Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Gaithersburg, MD Posts: 13 Drives: 09 370Z CY 7AT Rep Power: 14	What He Said Z_ealot pretty much nailed it. Of course there are and will be issues with the car. It is a mechanical device and parts will fail. I started reading this forum as a new Z owner in search of information about my car, what it's capabilities and limitations were. I was also interested in staying informed on TSB's and finding a support system to direct me to parts, service, and yes problems with the car. This forum provided me with information to have my hatch springs replaced. When i was havng a problem with my brake booster, information I found as a result of a a search of this forum enabled me to diagnose the problem before the service techs at the Nissan dealership. (They did replace my booster under warranty.) To Coosie I feel for your experience with fuel starve and replied to your post, so no need to wish bad things on me. I also agree that if others have experienced this problem during the normal operation of their vehicle, then they should report the problem to Nissan and the NHTSA. However, if the problem only occurs while on the track, or "drivng the car to its limits" on the street (BTW if you are driving to the limits on the street you are definitely drivng recklessly and could lose your license if you are caught by the PoPo.) then don't blame the car, or Nissan. The Z is NOT a race car. It is a high performance sports car that provides dependable drivng, and a reasonable amount of comfort at a low price point when compared to vehicles with equivalent performance metrics. That's it. If you want more luxury and a resulting decrease in HP/weight then buy a G37. BTW the Z was widely praised for taking a leaner, lighter approach to sports car design when it was released. This is why it has a cheaper sound system, at least in the base model, and noisy wheel wells. If you buy a Supperleggera (read superlight) Lambo I don't think they even give you a radio. If you want to track your car then you may have to make some modificaions, but why would Nissan include all of these things (oil, and transmission cooler, brake cooling ducts, mechanical differential) for specialty purposes resulting in inflated prices, and possible increases in liabilty for Nissan. I don't modify my car, but I understand it is fashionable to do so with younger drivers, and maybe some of these guys will go on to design their own cars one day. If they do I wonder what they will think when people start to rag on their design concepts.

05-07-2012, 09:32 PM	#1 (permalink)
buddyZ Banned Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: socal Posts: 118 Drives: 2012 Base6mt Rep Power: 0	leasing a 2012 Z for 320 a month, no sport package but what a steal!! im thankful but there is no doubt that the gas mileage is absolutely terrible in my opinion, crappy speakers and drivers side view is not to much of a biggie. Overall coming from a supercharged s2000 and E55 amg this car is EPIC.