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I'm in an M3 now and it's the same story. I'm not going to get much more than about the same gains (as the Z) with bolt on's. It is starting from a much stronger point but the overall gain at the end of the day is probably equal (+50 hp) with full bolt ons. I won't lie... it's a different car alright but you know, that comes at a co$t. I miss my Z for what it was and would absolutely recommend one to anybody. It's still the most bang for the buck although it's getting some pretty stiff competition coming out. |
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Im in Germany and actually get to drive fast on a routine basis, If I want to see the the gas gauge move rapidly. I can also enjoy the car in a dynamic environment as well(think Nurburgring). If makes me laugh when I see somone turning a sportcar into top fuel dragster. Making it anything but what it was out of the box. A car for driving and enjoying in a dynamic environment. The US does not lack cars for going fast for 12 seconds in a straight line. As far as mods go - in the US you are making alot of people rich to go 70mph in car that will double that in stock form. Save your money for good electronics, fun travel or retirement. Its a free country and we can do what we want, but its quite funny to see the rationale that the Z needs so much work after Nissan made it more than formidable. On the Autobahn a Cayman isnt pushing me out of the left lane. Trust me. Its the 3 liter + Audi wagons LOL! Or the guy in the twin turbo 911 who is owning the left lane! I watched a German auto test show and they tested the Audi TT-S vs the 370Z and the hosts/testers all picked it hands down! This car is superb.:hello: |
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I own a blacked out naturally aspirated v8 7.0l ls7 427 small block c6 z06 dishing out 620rwhp all motor. Power is ridiculously......violent. I just purchased a 370z.
Truth is, you can't expect to much from a 3.7l V6 as you would from a V8 period. The motor is limited in size and bolt ons won't help out to much due to the displacement. I bought the 370z because its got an interior that's light years better then that of my vette. I paid almost twice the price for the Z06 but thats because of the Block which is a monster. I am actually amazed on how smooth and pull its got for having such a small block. Exterior is really sexy might I add. It wouldn't be fair for the Z to compete against bigger blocks. Forced Induction is its only hope if big power is what is desired. If you wanna compete with bigger faster cars the GTR (Nissans Fans) is where its at. AMS GTR? Game over. |
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Let's not forget... we buy the Z for another reason. FEEDBACK, FEEDBACK FEEDBACK. The muscle cars just don't give the same feedback on both street and track the way the Z does. Nor do they give that same level of maneuverability. They don't offer that lightweight feel the Z provides in the small package. And though you can get more feeback from the cancelled S2k and miata. You don't lose a lot but the power gain is tremendous. I know that BOSS 302 is probably the only car in the Z price range that can match or beat the Z feel. But its just another version of yet another mustang. Though I would buy one. It would one in a stable, not my one and only. The Z still resonates originality that other cars in the price range can't reproduce. Of course this is just my opinion and purely subjective. |
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Even with the 5.0s. We can get to 440whp or so with intake, tune, and full exhaust. Beyond that you need FI. Unless you are OK with shelling out several thousand bucks for cams (510whp), but FI is the best bang for the buck without a doubt. I think that's true for all cars. If you want cost-effective power, go FI. Otherwise realize that bolt-on gains will be limited. |
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My neighbor just came by the office and we made a dunkin donuts run. He let me drive his Lotus Exige S. Omg....putting practicality aside, I have never driven such an amazing car. It left my heart racing and my soul yearning for me...I should not have driven it.
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I guess you found your next car? |
We'll see, I sold the Z to set aside more $ for a home and a quick internet search shows that the Exige is a little hard to find at a price I could manage right now.
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I bet you get great gas mileage. Too bad it is fwd. |
I actually averaged 24.5 mpg this last tank which included a spirited 140 mile drive with the Z crew last weekend. Not bad! Of course the trade-off is when you apply pressure to the throttle nothing actually happens. :icon17:
Anyways, I applaud BladeZ for doing what he needs to do for a house. That's more important than a car. So my advice is just STAY THE COURSE and resist temptation! Get a fun car after you have a garage of your own to put it in, otherwise you sold the Z for no reason. |
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so you ran out of money and now you're pissed?
thats wat i get from this thread... |
^ lol. Gotta pay to play.
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I built a great Z, I loved it very much, I sold it and in hindsight there are characteristics of the car that could be improved. I had my "highway altercations" like some and had my share of glorious moments (I promise as safely as I could). Honestly, when you get left standing by a lightly tuned Evo X, STi, 5.0 Stang, 135i or dare I say a Genesis (I highly doubt it though) the last thing you are thinking is hey I got a good value. |
Oh and I'm sorry I almost forgot, I haven't mentioned it at all but the damn m6 gearbox absolutely drove me mad. That "lump" between gates was very frustrating and members who have an s2k or porsche know that the Z m6 gearbox is faaaaar behind.
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It drove me nuts, I mean how could Nissan not noticed how clunky the m6 was? I would have gladly taken the HR motor in the 370z if it meant more R&D into a smoother gearbox. The redline fluid helped A LOT but why should that be necessary?
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I guess Nissan has never really been know for great feeling manual tranmissions
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I didn't expect everyone to smile and agree with all my statements but I do have a special perspective on the car due to my 3 year experience and ownership, maybe you're just pissed that I'm big enough to realize and mention the faults, if you look closely many guests are reading the post, they may be potential buyers and I find no problem in giving them the big picture. |
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i never said the Z was perfect either. hell i dont think any car is perfect. it's good enough for street in stock form and some sporting fun on the weekends. that is the Z. it's not a race car, it's a sports car for weekend fun. |
:roflpuke2::rofl2: to the :nutswinger:
Now back to the regular scheduled programming. NYBladeZ you make very valid points and have a great perspective when it comes to your feedback on the car with all you have done to it. Some just need to step back with the love for the Z and notice that it has its flaws. I agree with your points on the oil issue and transmission. But I think with any sports car there are always room for improvements. Does the perfect car really exist? Or are you always going to be trying to make it go that little bit faster, stop a little bit quicker or corner a little bit harder. This is the passion that drives an enthusiast no matter what they drive. Good luck with the house and hope you find that next best thing when the time is right and enjoy the :driving: |
Thanks bud, honestly man, I miss my red head Fairlady.
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Of course I could always get one of THESE to the tune of $26k :tup: |
Go find a salvage m5 v10 and drop that sucka in there. Still got the stupid Lotus driving experience in my head.
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LOL! I drove my Z to school and work today and everytime I made a smooth as melting butter shift I thought of all the complaints on this forum about the hard notchy shifting and started laughing. People in the other cars must think I'm nuts. I dont disagree that there are cars out there like the S2K that have a better feeling gearbox but I said it once and I will keep saying, 99.9% of the complaints I hear about this gearbox is due to bad stick drivers.
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Have you ever owned a car with a decent transmission? |
Red6spd, you have a factory freak, never give that thing away!
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I think you should look into Ferrari, mclaren, Lamborghini etc because it sounds like you'll never be able to appreciate what you have if someone beats you off a light. :stirthepot: |
So you highlighted my quote but disregarded the part about "I highly doubt it though"? I don't believe I ever said it was crappy by any means, please don't be ignorant. Anyways guys I think I'm going to lock the thread, I want to thank the members who repped me bc of it but I don't want it to steamroll into a troll fest.
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