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Fire 06-09-2012 02:25 PM

As I've said before Bucket that property is :happydance::eekdance::tup::hello::woot::rock:
:vuvuzela:

m4 I'm first on the list for ZDayZ caravan next year. Be great to meet the guys there. :tup: Plus I want to learn your pass in the grass technique :eekdance:

Bucketlist2012 06-09-2012 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 1763035)
I don't either. Love a good car no matter who makes it! Life sucks if you only commit to liking one brand or region.

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Amen...I do not like people like that...

They swear that one car is better because it is a Chevy or a Ford...

I have always loved the Mach 1's, and the Challenger T/a's, and the Camaro's since childhood.

I am not changing now... I do wish that the new Camaro had fashioned itself after the Second Gen, and not the first Gen, but that is personal choice.

But I do love the Mustang's and the Challenger's...And the ZL-1's.. And the Corvette's, and the AMG's , and......and.....and....:tup:

Fire 06-09-2012 02:30 PM

I like the old muscle cars also. The Mustange I like is the big 1970 Fastback. Eventhough it looks heavy and bulky I like it.

Speedy 06-09-2012 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Bucketlist2012 (Post 1763009)
To each his own, but steering with the rear tires and high horsepower is scrubbing off speed..

Sure it looks good and is cool on the street, but track times will prove that high horsepower will not beat a better set up car with lower horsepower..

That is why the GT350 will beat the GT500 on the track, road course..But not in the quarter mile.

But enjoy your Challenger..Very cool cars for sure...:tiphat:

Agreed but honestly, buying brand new $55K - $60K cars for track weapons isn't really the smart thing to do either. Get an older car and throw some good parts at it for a track day weapon and be in for under $20K easy.

My Challenger does triple duty as a drag strip car (too heavy for road course work), show car, and a weekend cruiser and it does ok. If I had it to do over again, I might have gotten a Mustang instead, but the 5.0 wasn't even on the radar when I bought the Challenger. The Challenger is so heavy it has taken a boat load of horse power to make it fast, as well as good tires. Mustangs are easy.

I originally wanted a Camaro, and went in to buy one sight unseen in 2009, but they wanted to mark them up and all that crap, so I bought the Challenger instead. Went back a year later to buy a Camaro too, and test drove it...didn't care for it. Now I'm eye balling a 2013 GT500 as a Challenger play mate.

Bucketlist2012 06-09-2012 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Fire (Post 1763044)
As I've said before Bucket that property is :happydance::eekdance::tup::hello::woot::rock::vuv uzela:

m4 I'm first on the list for ZDayZ caravan next year. Be great to meet the guys there. :tup: Plus I want to learn your pass in the grass technique :eekdance:

Thanks..It is a long shot due to being a short sale, and I low balled the offer..

But at 3.6% apr, and with the cash I have for a healthy down payment, I have to roll the dice..

Party at Mike's house if I get it...

If I don't , I still have a nice home and a 4.5% loan, so all is good..

Bucketlist2012 06-09-2012 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Speedy (Post 1763051)
Agreed but honestly, buying brand new $55K - $60K cars for track weapons isn't really the smart thing to do either. Get an older car and throw some good parts at it for a track day weapon and be in for under $20K easy.

My Challenger does triple duty as a drag strip car (too heavy for road course work), show car, and a weekend cruiser and it does ok. If I had it to do over again, I might have gotten a Mustang instead, but the 5.0 wasn't even on the radar when I bought the Challenger. The Challenger is so heavy it has taken a boat load of horse power to make it fast, as well as good tires. Mustangs are easy.

I originally wanted a Camaro, and went in to buy one sight unseen in 2009, but they wanted to mark them up and all that crap, so I bought the Challenger instead. Went back a year later to buy a Camaro too, and test drove it...didn't care for it. Now I'm eye balling a 2013 GT500 as a Challenger play mate.


You are right on there..My Track weapon is my 1971 Z/28.. I put about 30K into it, but I did have a High end Builder do the work and the set up.
It is a weekend warrior and never a daily driver.. Also that money included some crazy Rims and a completely new fuel system, exhaust system, and more. So ya, 20K would have been right if I did not do all the extra's, but they were 40 years old...Now all the underneath is new, and if I break it, no biggy.

Speedy, you are right on there..:tiphat:

Bucketlist2012 06-09-2012 02:39 PM

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Bucketlist2012 06-09-2012 02:41 PM

Can't wait to see Fire's Picture's...:yum::yum:

And Speedy, what about some Challenger photo's ?:yum::yum:

Fire 06-09-2012 02:41 PM

My ZL1 will be a track car, weekend driver and car show vehicle. I have a DD and like to spoil myself with this toy. Good luck again on the house Bucket. I'd love to do a west coast swing and meet up with ya. I think pics of our cars together would be very kewl. Oldschool and newschool track cars. :driving:

Bucketlist2012 06-09-2012 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Fire (Post 1763072)
My ZL1 will be a track car, weekend driver and car show vehicle. I have a DD and like to spoil myself with this toy. Good luck again on the house Bucket. I'd love to do a west coast swing and meet up with ya. I think pics of our cars together would be very kewl. Oldschool and newschool track cars. :driving:

I wished my Wife wanted the Camaro, but she had to have the 370Z...

So happy Wife, happy Life..

But if you are west coast bound someday, look me up...My old school with 3.73 gears and a 4 speed won't be doing much long distance driving..

If it wasn't a real Z/28, I would put an LSX and a 6 speed, but I cannot change the number;s matching drive line.. So it is going to be a short distance cruiser..

Speedy 06-09-2012 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Bucketlist2012 (Post 1763070)
Can't wait to see Fire's Picture's...:yum::yum:

And Speedy, what about some Challenger photo's ?:yum::yum:

That Camaro is awesome man! Best of all, no emissions or other BS to deal with so you can do whatever you want! I may build something like that one of these days, drop a modern motor in it with a blower and go to town.

My buddy just bought a 69' Z28 95% finished for $24K. All he has to finish is the interior which was included with the car new in boxes. That's the way to do it. He sold a 2008 Z06 and took a $30K hit...he said never again will he fool with a newer car. The Camaro will appreciate instead of depreciate.

Here's some of the Challenger:

http://www.speedysgarage.net/challen...boss338_10.jpg http://www.speedysgarage.net/challen...er_plate_2.jpg http://www.speedysgarage.net/challen..._covers_11.jpg http://www.speedysgarage.net/challen...shirter_01.jpg http://www.speedysgarage.net/challen...spoiler_06.jpg http://www.speedysgarage.net/challen...4-2012_061.jpg

Fire 06-09-2012 03:35 PM

Nice speedy :yum:

Bucketlist2012 06-09-2012 03:59 PM

Supercharger Speedy...:tiphat:

Nice pictures... Sweet Car....:tup::tup:

I see the Drag Tires on the back...Serious business there...:driving::eek:

Thanks, I love my car and what I have done, is done right..

I still have things to do on the inside, but it is Track ready for the Autocross or the road course...

Your friend did a good thing.. Cars are not selling for what they used to ,due to the economy...It is still a soft market, and he got a great deal...It will only go up from here..

Speedy 06-09-2012 04:21 PM

Thanks. It's a fun and very comfortable car. I've gotten it to run 11.19s at 125 - 128 in the quarter. Gets 20 city and 24MPG hwy to boot.

Dodge's are just so hard to work with though. Very little after market support and the tuning is a major PITA. For 2011 and up they've encrypted the PCM so no tuning AT ALL on those. Dodge are a bunch of idiots and really pissed off the enthusiast community.

Bucketlist2012 06-09-2012 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Speedy (Post 1763204)
Thanks. It's a fun and very comfortable car. I've gotten it to run 11.19s at 125 - 128 in the quarter. Gets 20 city and 24MPG hwy to boot.

Dodge's are just so hard to work with though. Very little after market support and the tuning is a major PITA. For 2011 and up they've encrypted the PCM so no tuning AT ALL on those. Dodge are a bunch of idiots and really pissed off the enthusiast community.

Nice Times... That will get your blood going.. And you look like you have the smarts and the shop too. SWEET..:tiphat: And the MPG :ughdance::tup:


My first step was to do the brakes and the suspension, ect...You know, do the right steps first and then go back to the engine ...The car is now set up for massive HP with the subframe connectors, ect...;)

So now with a full Hotchkis set up and massive Willwoods, ect.., I am looking to S/C my LT-1 .. It has the flattops and bulletproof parts, so I may try the 125HP charger..I need more HP to run with the new cars..:driving:

And I want to leave the factory Corvette engine since I have all new exhaust and MSD parts.. :confused:

If not a S/C, then higher compression and a bigger cam...Running a comp cam 280H now, but it only runs low to mid 13's..@ 108. I now know the car will handle much more HP.. It will never get good gas mileage unless I go with an LS.:confused:

I have dreams of a new style ZR-1 or ZL-1 engine, but that would take a wad that I should not spend..It would not be financially smart...:ugh2:

But I spent my camaro wad of money for now...:eek: The wife had a paid off 350Z, but since I went crazy on my car, I had to put 20K down on the 370Z to make the payments low... Happy Wife, Happy Life..

So went the Interior money and my HP boost...:eek:

Speedy 06-09-2012 04:50 PM

Yeah, supercharge that thing and you should get way more than 125HP. The LS engines seem to respond favorably to forced induction. You could get real serious and slap some twin turbos on there and make some fantastic power, but it'll be a bit more pricey.

I went the opposite, I did the motor and blower first then did the rest of the car to handle (almost handle) it. I spend a lot more time driving on the street than I do the strip, so it wasn't a huge deal which way I went first.

Bucketlist2012 06-09-2012 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Speedy (Post 1763233)
Yeah, supercharge that thing and you should get way more than 125HP. The LS engines seem to respond favorably to forced induction. You could get real serious and slap some twin turbos on there and make some fantastic power, but it'll be a bit more pricey.

I went the opposite, I did the motor and blower first then did the rest of the car to handle (almost handle) it. I spend a lot more time driving on the street than I do the strip, so it wasn't a huge deal which way I went first.

Yes, I may just S/C my small block..The shop that does my work is just finishing a dual turbo LS custom 69, but it is a six figure car..He builds SEMA cars, and mine is a mild build, haha..

I don't see me LSing or 6 speeding the car for now..

But with the Flat top pistons I think I can get away with Super charging it..And I can leave my new exhaust alone.

I also had 40 year old suspension and brakes, so I had to start there...Sure I could have gone back stock and saved 15K, but what fun would that be ? Now it is high end and ready for anything I want to do with it.. Just need more power now..400HP does not cut it ,in the modern world..Back in 1985, I was king...not anymore. Yet...

Bucketlist2012 06-09-2012 05:08 PM

One Fire posts his pictures, I will shut up and stop posting ,haha...

Lemers 06-09-2012 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Bucketlist2012 (Post 1763020)
:yum::yum::yum:

Now you got me all crazy...

My Wife is up looking at the house that I made an offer on...If I get it, it is no new car for me..

I will have to wait for sure..

If I don't get it.......????? I don't know what the hell I will do...

This is the House I made an offer on....Yes, I am outta my mind, but it is a short sale..If I get it, it is an instant 200K in equity..I just cannot pass up the chance...

That ain't a house that's a resort.

Bucketlist2012 06-09-2012 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Lemers (Post 1763262)
That ain't a house that's a resort.

Thanks...

It may be the last home I buy, so i wanted a place to hang out..

But again, I low balled a short sale, so it may not happen, but the wife is up looking at the area and the offer is in...

Party at Mike's house

Speedy 06-09-2012 11:18 PM

Yep, in that Camaro I'd have started with suspension and brakes as well. I'm wanting to upgrade the brakes on my Challenger even to a Baer system, but it's $4K and I just can't bring myself to do it. I wanna go faster, I'll worry about stopping later LOL

That house is awesome!

Bucketlist2012 06-09-2012 11:43 PM

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Yep, in that Camaro I'd have started with suspension and brakes as well. I'm wanting to upgrade the brakes on my Challenger even to a Baer system, but it's $4K and I just can't bring myself to do it. I wanna go faster, I'll worry about stopping later LOL

That house is awesome!

Thanks Speedy..

The house is a long shot, but I am rolling the dice..It would be a steal if I pull it off, if not, I have a nice house, and a great fixed loan now. I would never try to buy a short sale, they are just too long and hard to get. But I will know in the next few months..

Yes, the brakes were really expensive, your prices are right on, and it was a few hundred more for Red calipers, haha:eek:

Yes, I had to change all the old stuff..Gas tank, fuel lines, brake lines, ect... The suspension was dead. Did I need to go with coil overs, and Hotchkis everywhere else ? No.

And the brakes and exhaust were toast.. Did I have to go with ceramic and stainless steel exhaust. No.

Did I have to buy the best Willwoods that made me have to buy new Rims ? No.

But man, it is now one of a Kind. I really wanted all of it, and it was the first thing on my Bucket List. I almost died two years ago due to Major Heart and Brain problems that I am still recovering from. So, yes, I went all out so far on the build, well not Art Morrison Chassis crazy, but what I could afford..

Did I have to buy the Wife her dream 370Z and trade a perfectly good , paid off 350Z ? YES...I did not see that coming..haha Had I never started my car, she would have been happy with her 350Z...

But I need more than 400HP . I have buddies that have road course Camaro's that go from 0 to 100 and back to 0 in 13 seconds.. So next will be Interior and Horsepower....maybe not in that order,haha.

Mike

Speedy 06-10-2012 12:06 AM

Man that Camaro is bad ***. PM me first if you ever decide to sell it. Seriously.

You can't take it with you buddy. As long as your bills are paid and your not in debt up to your eye balls I say go for it. I had a similar experience, although not as serious I think, and now if I wanna do something....I do it. Life's short...live hard!

Bucketlist2012 06-10-2012 12:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Speedy (Post 1763712)
Man that Camaro is bad ***. PM me first if you ever decide to sell it. Seriously.

You can't take it with you buddy. As long as your bills are paid and your not in debt up to your eye balls I say go for it. I had a similar experience, although not as serious I think, and now if I wanna do something....I do it. Life's short...live hard!

Thanks Speedy, I will keep it in mind.

Yes, I roll as debt free as possible and make sure that long term, I am not stressing on money.. The fine line of living for today and still having the future covered for me and the wife...Can't blow it all on stuff...

But my bucket lists are in full swing. Travel, the Z/28, maybe the new Home, and maybe some more fast cars, newer one's...But bills get covered first..

Mike:tiphat:

Bucketlist2012 06-10-2012 12:34 AM

Off to bed...Until next time.

ZZZZZzzzzzzzz......

IDZRVIT 06-10-2012 08:13 AM

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A few more for your viewing pleasure

Just did a top end build on my '76 'vette. The AFR 195 Eliminator aluminium heads really lets the engine breathe!

IDZRVIT 06-10-2012 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Bucketlist2012 (Post 1763065)
You are right on there..My Track weapon is my 1971 Z/28.. I put about 30K into it, but I did have a High end Builder do the work and the set up.
It is a weekend warrior and never a daily driver.. Also that money included some crazy Rims and a completely new fuel system, exhaust system, and more. So ya, 20K would have been right if I did not do all the extra's, but they were 40 years old...Now all the underneath is new, and if I break it, no biggy.

Speedy, you are right on there..:tiphat:

Nice wheels!:tiphat:

IDZRVIT 06-10-2012 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Speedy (Post 1763145)
That Camaro is awesome man! Best of all, no emissions or other BS to deal with so you can do whatever you want! I may build something like that one of these days, drop a modern motor in it with a blower and go to town.

My buddy just bought a 69' Z28 95% finished for $24K. All he has to finish is the interior which was included with the car new in boxes. That's the way to do it. He sold a 2008 Z06 and took a $30K hit...he said never again will he fool with a newer car. The Camaro will appreciate instead of depreciate.

Here's some of the Challenger:

http://www.speedysgarage.net/challen...boss338_10.jpg http://www.speedysgarage.net/challen...er_plate_2.jpg http://www.speedysgarage.net/challen..._covers_11.jpg http://www.speedysgarage.net/challen...shirter_01.jpg http://www.speedysgarage.net/challen...spoiler_06.jpg http://www.speedysgarage.net/challen...4-2012_061.jpg

Nice, even if it is a Dodge. J/K.:tiphat:

IDZRVIT 06-10-2012 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Bucketlist2012 (Post 1763215)
Nice Times... That will get your blood going.. And you look like you have the smarts and the shop too. SWEET..:tiphat: And the MPG :ughdance::tup:


My first step was to do the brakes and the suspension, ect...You know, do the right steps first and then go back to the engine ...The car is now set up for massive HP with the subframe connectors, ect...;)

So now with a full Hotchkis set up and massive Willwoods, ect.., I am looking to S/C my LT-1 .. It has the flattops and bulletproof parts, so I may try the 125HP charger..I need more HP to run with the new cars..:driving:

And I want to leave the factory Corvette engine since I have all new exhaust and MSD parts.. :confused:

If not a S/C, then higher compression and a bigger cam...Running a comp cam 280H now, but it only runs low to mid 13's..@ 108. I now know the car will handle much more HP.. It will never get good gas mileage unless I go with an LS.:confused:

I have dreams of a new style ZR-1 or ZL-1 engine, but that would take a wad that I should not spend..It would not be financially smart...:ugh2:

But I spent my camaro wad of money for now...:eek: The wife had a paid off 350Z, but since I went crazy on my car, I had to put 20K down on the 370Z to make the payments low... Happy Wife, Happy Life..

So went the Interior money and my HP boost...:eek:

What heads are you running? I have the CC Magnum 280. Combined with the AFR 195 Eliminators the car is now a rocket. Highly recommend the AFR's. The best that's out there for a reasonable price.

Fire 06-10-2012 10:36 AM

Nice Vette IDZRVIT. I had a supercharged 69 vert it was a sweet ride :tup:

Bucketlist2012 06-10-2012 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by IDZRVIT (Post 1763996)
What heads are you running? I have the CC Magnum 280. Combined with the AFR 195 Eliminators the car is now a rocket. Highly recommend the AFR's. The best that's out there for a reasonable price.

Hey there.. I am running the LT-1 2.02 Heads. They are the Stock big valve heads with some machine work.

They come from the factory with guide plates and screw in studs, ect...

It comes on about 3000 to 3500RPM and pulls hard to redline 6500rpm..

You can really feel it..I also went with the 1.52 Roller rockers...

Engine has 20K Miles on it, so I may need to freshen it in the next few years...

Bucketlist2012 06-10-2012 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by IDZRVIT (Post 1763987)
Just did a top end build on my '76 'vette. The AFR 195 Eliminator aluminium heads really lets the engine breathe!

Love the Picture....Sweet engine.

Bucketlist2012 06-10-2012 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by IDZRVIT (Post 1763990)
Nice wheels!:tiphat:

Thanks...:tiphat:

They are the Rushforth Super Spokes..:ughdance:

I went a little nutts buying those, but I made sure that everything behind them is good to go..Brakes, Suspension, ect..


I think that the wheels are the Icing on the cake..

SailFree 06-10-2012 12:30 PM

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I went to my high school alumni association meeting, Class of 59, drove from Tidewater Virginia to north-central Ohio and back over 3 days, most of it at night, 8 hours straight on the road last night. Entomology is not what I was looking for.

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Fire 06-10-2012 12:37 PM

Looks like alot of samples. They aren't really intact enough for study. :stirthepot: Looks like my car after going to Carlisle Imports and Kitcars in May.

Fire 06-10-2012 12:39 PM

Bucket your rides are super sweet. :tup:

Bucketlist2012 06-10-2012 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Fire (Post 1764298)
Bucket your rides are super sweet. :tup:

Thanks.. I cannot wait until I see your ZL-1...:tiphat:

IDZRVIT 06-10-2012 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Fire (Post 1764162)
Nice Vette IDZRVIT. I had a supercharged 69 vert it was a sweet ride :tup:

Thanks. '69 S/C vert? That must have been one sweet ride.:happydance:

Fire 06-10-2012 01:59 PM

Could not keep clutches in it. It was loud and fast. 4" side pipes save lives. :tup:

FLA-SVT 06-11-2012 09:23 PM

ZL-1 is cool...Not a fan of the interior, but the car is a bad boy...I did not read the entire thread so if was covered I apologize, but I believe GM will cover parts breakage even if being raced as long as it was done at a sanctioned race track and event.


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