Thinkin about getting a Z

nmjaxx9 · 02-26-2012, 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert

My dealer stuck me with msrp, but over allowed on my trade by about $2k. Also, there is only one other car in the US, with only two more I know about scheduled to arrive, like mine.

Nice! the rarer the better, it makes you feel like you are in a league of your own.

280z/300zx · 02-26-2012, 06:31 PM

I know things have changed as Nissan is not really cranking out Z's anymore but I got both my 370z's for way under MSRP. In 2009 when the Z was just coming to dealers I special ordered my 09 touring sport yellow 6-speed. Got it for 500 under invoice. Sadly a year and a half later she was totaled and I replaced her with a 2010 Nismo. My Nismo had a sticker price of 45k. They had a 2500 dealer mark up for being a Nismo as well as charging extra for window tint, window etchings, door guards. It took 3 weeks of negotiating but I got the car for 35k and change. They kept telling me it's a Nismo and that it's a hot item but after 3weeks of not moving the car, with them also knowing I had a 800+ credit score and money to go with it they caved. If you aren't in a rush then time is on your side to get the deal you want.

With regards to the mustang, it's hard to pass up. Superior in acceleration and just as good through the corners and typically cheaper to buy and easier to find. The only downside I see with them is that they are freaking everywhere. Every time I get an itch to even go check the 5.0 out I force myself to count how many mustangs I see on a simple 5mile drive. Usually it's 20+ and gets rid of my itch for a stang. Still, unless Nissan announces something in the next year or so about a 2014 Z that is drastically better I'm probably going to another car. I mean I'll still have my 280z and 300zx so it's all good

sceptre155 · 02-26-2012, 09:05 PM

Yeah, I'm not in a a hurry. The 302's are going for way more then msrp from what I hear online. Which is a no go for me. And the Gt500 with some options is close to 60k. At that price I can think of a few others I'd buy. Anyways... I'm ask around and see who really wants my money. I really like the pearl white. But black with some red racing stripes sound hot too.

ImportConvert · 02-27-2012, 12:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 280z/300zx

I know things have changed as Nissan is not really cranking out Z's anymore but I got both my 370z's for way under MSRP. In 2009 when the Z was just coming to dealers I special ordered my 09 touring sport yellow 6-speed. Got it for 500 under invoice. Sadly a year and a half later she was totaled and I replaced her with a 2010 Nismo. My Nismo had a sticker price of 45k. They had a 2500 dealer mark up for being a Nismo as well as charging extra for window tint, window etchings, door guards. It took 3 weeks of negotiating but I got the car for 35k and change. They kept telling me it's a Nismo and that it's a hot item but after 3weeks of not moving the car, with them also knowing I had a 800+ credit score and money to go with it they caved. If you aren't in a rush then time is on your side to get the deal you want.

With regards to the mustang, it's hard to pass up. Superior in acceleration and just as good through the corners and typically cheaper to buy and easier to find. The only downside I see with them is that they are freaking everywhere. Every time I get an itch to even go check the 5.0 out I force myself to count how many mustangs I see on a simple 5mile drive. Usually it's 20+ and gets rid of my itch for a stang. Still, unless Nissan announces something in the next year or so about a 2014 Z that is drastically better I'm probably going to another car. I mean I'll still have my 280z and 300zx so it's all good

sadly I had to rush. The car I wanted was very rare, and they sell instantly. My dealer found two before, and they sold before the dealer could even talk to the other dealership. I called independantly and asked, myself. My dealer was telling me the truth. The car I got, I bought out from under someone why was trying to get it while we were on the phone, they said. True? Who knows, but you won't find any more like mine within 1500 miles of me. Maybe one, that's it.

UNKNOWN_370 · 02-27-2012, 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert

My dealer stuck me with msrp, but over allowed on my trade by about $2k. Also, there is only one other car in the US, with only two more I know about scheduled to arrive, like mine.

Its hard budging them on price on the AT. But the 6mt, I'm shocked they didn't drop price... interesting.

alcheng · 02-27-2012, 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert

My dealer stuck me with msrp, but over allowed on my trade by about $2k. Also, there is only one other car in the US, with only two more I know about scheduled to arrive, like mine.

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

Its hard budging them on price on the AT. But the 6mt, I'm shocked they didn't drop price... interesting.

It's either higher trade-in & higher sales-price OR lower trade-in & lower sales-price.

What does matter is the final price, right??

UNKNOWN_370 · 02-27-2012, 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by alcheng

It's either higher trade-in & higher sales-price OR lower trade-in & lower sales-price.

What does matter is the final price, right??

They're giving you 2k over on your trade because your car is very rare... they can still budge on the price of the Z. But if you have been making your frustration as obvious to them as much as you show us??? They won't budge on the price. But if they think you have decided on something else... they may strive to give you at least $750-1000 off msrp.
If not? At least get your accessories and oil changes free... point is, you can still get more.

UNKNOWN_370 · 02-27-2012, 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by sceptre155

Drove a Z this morning. The shifting is awesome. I liked everything except the stereo. What a piece of crap. Can always swap that out I suppose. Dealer in CT had 3 nismo's. One was a 2011 and he only dropped 3800 off the msrp. I would have thought they could have done better. What's people pAying for their Z's compared to the msrp??

Yeap... no matter which stereo you choose for the Z. Its a real POS. Lol. Base+sport is a must for audiophiles.

TheGreatOne · 02-27-2012, 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

Yeap... no matter which stereo you choose for the Z. Its a real POS. Lol. Base+sport is a must for audiophiles.

Ya, I can't even deny it anymore, the Bose leaves something to be desired

At first I was very happy with it as my past cars did not have systems worth writing home about (except I did have boston Acoustic components up front in the Lancer)

So I was very happy with my Bose with stock sub etc, but lately I've wanted more sound...Love the Nav/Integrated features system though, so I guess its the trade off

UNKNOWN_370 · 02-27-2012, 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by TheGreatOne

Ya, I can't even deny it anymore, the Bose leaves something to be desired

At first I was very happy with it as my past cars did not have systems worth writing home about (except I did have boston Acoustic components up front in the Lancer)

So I was very happy with my Bose with stock sub etc, but lately I've wanted more sound...Love the Nav/Integrated features system though, so I guess its the trade off

With new App radio Technology. The Nissan NAV is obsolete. Everything is app based now and car audio is hitting new heights. The Z nav package will prevent you from experiencing what new technologies are bringing right now.

DLS, BA, Rainbow, Focal, and jl make great speakers for cars and you can integrate them into the nav bose, but subs etc, labor will be so expensive. The system is literally grounded into the touring and nav models.

shadoquad · 02-27-2012, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

Yeap... no matter which stereo you choose for the Z. Its a real POS. Lol. Base+sport is a must for audiophiles.

stock stereos are not great.

sceptre155 · 02-27-2012, 06:51 PM

Well.. I made the plunge, the dealer came back with a deal I couldn't resist.

Moved another 600 off the MSRP and gave me another 2500 for my trade in. Plus he's going to get me the lighted kick plates and the Nismo Floor mats. I feel like i got a good deal.

So now to the car heheh

Not going to worry about any mods yet. The stereo has to go first.
Any recommendations for a double din HU? I'm looking for GPS, Pandora Radio and a Backup Camera are the biggies. I dont care for sirius or XM. I use Iphones. Thought about a Ipad, but havent seen any mods that grab me. Not a huge Android fan.. So I'm thinking I'll probably just stick with a double din HU.

I see most people aren't putting in rear speakers. but they are putting in some subs. Any other place to put them other then taking out the spare tire? I'm looking to keep a stock look. And I don't need to blurr my vision with Bass. I'm thinking a nice 8 or 10 with some watts thrown at it with that hatch should sound pretty good. Speakers? looks like Polks? I'd like to keep the whole thing too about 1k if a few extra bucks make a huge difference well then ofcourse. But that's the ballpark im shooting for. Gotta tint the windows too.

shadoquad · 02-27-2012, 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by sceptre155

Well.. I made the plunge, the dealer came back with a deal I couldn't resist.

Moved another 600 off the MSRP and gave me another 2500 for my trade in. Plus he's going to get me the lighted kick plates and the Nismo Floor mats. I feel like i got a good deal.

So now to the car heheh

Not going to worry about any mods yet. The stereo has to go first.
Any recommendations for a double din HU? I'm looking for GPS, Pandora Radio and a Backup Camera are the biggies. I dont care for sirius or XM. I use Iphones. Thought about a Ipad, but havent seen any mods that grab me. Not a huge Android fan.. So I'm thinking I'll probably just stick with a double din HU.

I see most people aren't putting in rear speakers. but they are putting in some subs. Any other place to put them other then taking out the spare tire? I'm looking to keep a stock look. And I don't need to blurr my vision with Bass. I'm thinking a nice 8 or 10 with some watts thrown at it with that hatch should sound pretty good. Speakers? looks like Polks? I'd like to keep the whole thing too about 1k if a few extra bucks make a huge difference well then ofcourse. But that's the ballpark im shooting for. Gotta tint the windows too.

If you want some sound audio advice, check out this dude:
Nissan 370Z Forum - View Profile: bigaudiofanat

Bucketlist2012 · 02-27-2012, 10:09 AM

Some one ask for Rare ??

m4a1mustang · 02-27-2012, 12:16 PM

Bose isn't bad for a regular person. The rear subs are a total waste, though.

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280z/300zx Track Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Nevada Posts: 689 Drives: 280z, 300zx, Vette Rep Power: 273	I know things have changed as Nissan is not really cranking out Z's anymore but I got both my 370z's for way under MSRP. In 2009 when the Z was just coming to dealers I special ordered my 09 touring sport yellow 6-speed. Got it for 500 under invoice. Sadly a year and a half later she was totaled and I replaced her with a 2010 Nismo. My Nismo had a sticker price of 45k. They had a 2500 dealer mark up for being a Nismo as well as charging extra for window tint, window etchings, door guards. It took 3 weeks of negotiating but I got the car for 35k and change. They kept telling me it's a Nismo and that it's a hot item but after 3weeks of not moving the car, with them also knowing I had a 800+ credit score and money to go with it they caved. If you aren't in a rush then time is on your side to get the deal you want. With regards to the mustang, it's hard to pass up. Superior in acceleration and just as good through the corners and typically cheaper to buy and easier to find. The only downside I see with them is that they are freaking everywhere. Every time I get an itch to even go check the 5.0 out I force myself to count how many mustangs I see on a simple 5mile drive. Usually it's 20+ and gets rid of my itch for a stang. Still, unless Nissan announces something in the next year or so about a 2014 Z that is drastically better I'm probably going to another car. I mean I'll still have my 280z and 300zx so it's all good

02-26-2012, 09:05 PM	#3 (permalink)
sceptre155 Base Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Ithaca,NY Posts: 67 Drives: Ford Raptor Rep Power: 14	Yeah, I'm not in a a hurry. The 302's are going for way more then msrp from what I hear online. Which is a no go for me. And the Gt500 with some options is close to 60k. At that price I can think of a few others I'd buy. Anyways... I'm ask around and see who really wants my money. I really like the pearl white. But black with some red racing stripes sound hot too.

02-27-2012, 06:51 PM	#12 (permalink)
sceptre155 Base Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Ithaca,NY Posts: 67 Drives: Ford Raptor Rep Power: 14	Well.. I made the plunge, the dealer came back with a deal I couldn't resist. Moved another 600 off the MSRP and gave me another 2500 for my trade in. Plus he's going to get me the lighted kick plates and the Nismo Floor mats. I feel like i got a good deal. So now to the car heheh Not going to worry about any mods yet. The stereo has to go first. Any recommendations for a double din HU? I'm looking for GPS, Pandora Radio and a Backup Camera are the biggies. I dont care for sirius or XM. I use Iphones. Thought about a Ipad, but havent seen any mods that grab me. Not a huge Android fan.. So I'm thinking I'll probably just stick with a double din HU. I see most people aren't putting in rear speakers. but they are putting in some subs. Any other place to put them other then taking out the spare tire? I'm looking to keep a stock look. And I don't need to blurr my vision with Bass. I'm thinking a nice 8 or 10 with some watts thrown at it with that hatch should sound pretty good. Speakers? looks like Polks? I'd like to keep the whole thing too about 1k if a few extra bucks make a huge difference well then ofcourse. But that's the ballpark im shooting for. Gotta tint the windows too.