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MacCool 10-15-2012 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by robones (Post 1963136)
By doing this mod you guys are essentially removing any security should your car ever get stolen correct? I wonder how would your insurance company handle a claim for a car who's theft deterrent system has been compromised?

How would they know?

Dwight Frye 10-15-2012 06:06 PM

No kidding, and how would a thief that was already inside your vehicle figuring out how to hot wire it, or a scumbag with a tow truck that was going to hook it up and drive away know that the steering column didn't lock ? The car was on it's way to being gone at that point, lock or no lock.
An owner is going to tell the cops and his insurance agent "I pulled the fuse or installed a harness to bypass the lock" ? :rofl2:

arnoldas 10-24-2012 10:55 AM

just pulled the fuse today, took about 15 mins. Are there any side effects of pulling the fuse?

edub370 10-24-2012 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by robones (Post 1963136)
By doing this mod you guys are essentially removing any security should your car ever get stolen correct? I wonder how would your insurance company handle a claim for a car who's theft deterrent system has been compromised?

if a thief is smart enough to gain access to a keyless entry car and start a keyless entry car without a key, don't u think he will be smart enough to bypass a stupid steering lock that every car on the market has??

kinda like people locking their back door on an apartment thats 2 floors up. if someone did all that work to get up there, a stupid little lock is not going to stand in their way at that point

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Originally Posted by arnoldas (Post 1978062)
just pulled the fuse today, took about 15 mins. Are there any side effects of pulling the fuse?

no

DLSTR 10-24-2012 12:55 PM

If the car is stolen - they will ask, was it locked. Answer, yes. End of story for the insurance company. No coverage will be denied if your car is not locked in anyway. Its not fraudulent to forget or not lock your car.

LMBmikeZ 10-24-2012 06:03 PM

Steering lock only prevents the wheel from being turned with the car in the off position. I would not consider this to be anti theft. I think it's so that if they got into the car and put it in neutral then they couldn't push the car along and bump start it or steer it onto a truck or into a better towing position. :ugh2:

lemon-fresh 10-24-2012 06:11 PM

Is the steering lock even installed in 12/13 370's anymore?

LMBmikeZ 10-24-2012 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by lemon-fresh (Post 1979071)
Is the steering lock even installed in 12/13 370's anymore?

No there's no longer any steering lock from '12s on

kactussjack 10-24-2012 06:43 PM

Just had my column lock replaced this week under warranty. Rev C failed. Replaced with Rev D. Is this the latest rev or is there E,F..... out there?

Going to buy the bypass harness later this week to avoid any furthur hassle. Don't forget - if the lock fails with your windows or top down, they ain't going back up.

Mt Tam I am 10-24-2012 08:26 PM

I had my steering lock engage while driving my Datsun B210. Terrible feeling. I was going slowly down hill. All I could do was brake.

I do not miss the feeling of moving my steering wheel while I'm parked and hearing that click.

GaleForce 10-24-2012 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by kactussjack (Post 1979151)
Just had my column lock replaced this week under warranty. Rev C failed. Replaced with Rev D. Is this the latest rev or is there E,F..... out there?

Going to buy the bypass harness later this week to avoid any furthur hassle. Don't forget - if the lock fails with your windows or top down, they ain't going back up.

We haven't seen any Rev above Rev D.

ocfoilist 11-07-2012 11:39 AM

Another steering lock assembly victim here. I'm not sure what Revision the failed part was but it was replaced with Rev D. I'm at 54,000 miles ('09 Sport/Touring) and the dealer worked with me to get the price out the door down to $972. I don't know if it has been mentioned before but the warranty is 1 year, 12,000 miles for the part.

I guess the fix is in my future as well. Bummer, since it was on my to-do list. I just didn't do it in time.

LMBmikeZ 11-07-2012 03:21 PM

:facepalm:

that's almost as bad as letting a low tire go "just one more trip" - classic final statement............before the tire blows off the rim, or in this case the lock doesn't disengage!

wheee! 11-07-2012 04:29 PM

One of my buddies here in oiltown just had his fail.... after I had offered to remove his fuse for him! Luckily, the dealer covered it for him! ... out of warranty too!

kactussjack 11-07-2012 05:22 PM

Mine failed a couple weeks ago. 17,500 miles on 2010 roadster, rev c. Replaced with rev. d under warranty. The bill to Nissan was around $850 + $85 to my insurance co for the tow. Now has the bypass harness installed for piece of mind.

Don't forget people. If it fails with the windows or top down, you cannot put them up.

And I thought getting out of the C-5 would get me away for steering lock issues.

Lucky1charm 11-14-2012 03:38 PM

Just had mine replaced last week. 2009 Touring Sport, failed at 23,000 miles. $1,100 to repair. Called Nissan, they would not admit there is a problem with the part and would not help with repairs. I also filed a complaint with the NHTSA.

OldGuy 11-14-2012 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by onzedge (Post 1522198)
I will let you know. I heard of this guy taking out a nasty door dent on a 370 and it was like 100 bucks.

$100 for one or several dents in your car in one session at my (believe it or not) Acura dealer! And it was a perfect job.

OldGuy 11-14-2012 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Mt Tam I am (Post 1940525)
I pulled my 2009's fuse last month. I have the extended warranty but the thought of driving hundreds of miles from home and have to deal with this is not worth the theft prevention aspect.

I'd love it to blow and have it properly repaired while at the dealership, while in for a service. I have Murphy's Law on my side so I preempted it.

Could you please specifically state the number of the fuse, so I can tell my mechanic to pull it before I have the problem. Thanks.

SouthArk370Z 11-14-2012 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by OldGuy (Post 2016820)
Could you please specifically state the number of the fuse, so I can tell my mechanic to pull it before I have the problem. Thanks.

If I read the FSMs correctly (SEC-127), it's fuse #48. I did mine recently and it's identified with a label that says something close to "Wheel Lock" either next to the fuse (near bottom on left row of fuses) or on the cover. It's not at all difficult to figure out once you get the fuse block out. There is also a DIY on here that explains it.

Edit: Makes sure the mechanic pulls the fuse AFTER the lock retracts (s/he should be able to hear it retract when the car is turned on (not started), it's rather noisy). See the DIY on this site for details.

OldGuy 11-15-2012 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by SouthArk370Z (Post 2016846)
If I read the FSMs correctly (SEC-127), it's fuse #48. I did mine recently and it's identified with a label that says something close to "Wheel Lock" either next to the fuse (near bottom on left row of fuses) or on the cover. It's not at all difficult to figure out once you get the fuse block out. There is also a DIY on here that explains it.

Edit: Makes sure the mechanic pulls the fuse AFTER the lock retracts (s/he should be able to hear it retract when the car is turned on (not started), it's rather noisy). See the DIY on this site for details.

Thank you. I'm taking your post with me.

edub370 11-15-2012 09:26 AM

.. Still amazed people are having this issue....

scgolfer7 11-15-2012 10:02 AM

The exact name of the fuse on the box is Steering Lock. It is a 10A red fuse.

scgolfer7 11-15-2012 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by edub370 (Post 2017337)
.. Still amazed people are having this issue....


Yeah, mine went out last week while I was at a gas station 100 miles away from home. Luckily a few smacks with a pair of pliers and it retracted and I yanked the fuse out.

geddy lee 11-15-2012 12:47 PM

I too can't beleive this is still an issue. I got my 2009 back in April with 11K on it. I was on this website during my lunch at work and read a thread about this problem and solution and got up, went out to the parking lot and pulled the fuse. Took me about 10 minutes. The steering lock isn't going to protect you anyway. If someone wants to steal your car bad enough, they will.
I had a friend with a MKIV Supra with 20 K worth of mods. One night when he was at the Olive Garden , a flat bed pulled up and drug his car across the asphalt and on to the truck. It was all locked up tight along with the steering wheel.
Its useless

SouthArk370Z 11-15-2012 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by scgolfer7 (Post 2017410)
The exact name of the fuse on the box is Steering Lock. It is a 10A red fuse.

Thanks for the clarification.

OldGuy 11-15-2012 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by scgolfer7 (Post 2017410)
The exact name of the fuse on the box is Steering Lock. It is a 10A red fuse.

Thank you.

bfowlzr33 11-18-2012 09:14 PM

2009 sr 6mt 55,500 miles revB
went out and im trying to find a new one for less than $500!! does ANY other website sell this part??:shakes head::confused:

Astrosfan 11-19-2012 08:16 AM

mine went out over the weekend had to get the car towed.

$1300 to fix at the dealership

so the tally: $1500 for ac compressor last month, $1300 for the steering wheel lock, Clutch is going out(CsC or syncros) another $1500 by the end of this month..... im starting to hate this car

bfowlzr33 11-19-2012 11:17 AM

so i got the car towed back home today i wasnt about to have it towed to the stealership, i planned on fixing it myself. as soon as the tow truck left i figured id mess around with the assembly a lil bit. since it was already broke, i took the back side of my monkey wrench to that pos. and hit it harder just thinking about how i was going to have to pay about $600 bucks to replace it. guess that did the trick the car unlocked and started too because i was pushing the start button very fast. kept the car running and went to pull the fuse BUT IT WAS ALREADY GONE! :confused:

anyway i could always hear the steering lock working when i got in and out of the car so to make sure i disabled it, i cut the brown wire as suggested in one of the forums. no more noise of the lock when im getting in and out of the car and it shuts of and starts fine. :ugh2:

so i still need to get a back up steering lock JUST IN CASE. but thank god i got that thing to unlock one more time so i could disable it. im still not wanting to take the car far away from home for a while just to make sure its good to go. any questions just send a PM.

LMBmikeZ 11-19-2012 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by bfowlzr33 (Post 2022953)
so i got the car towed back home today i wasnt about to have it towed to the stealership, i planned on fixing it myself. as soon as the tow truck left i figured id mess around with the assembly a lil bit. since it was already broke, i took the back side of my monkey wrench to that pos. and hit it harder just thinking about how i was going to have to pay about $600 bucks to replace it. guess that did the trick the car unlocked and started too because i was pushing the start button very fast. kept the car running and went to pull the fuse BUT IT WAS ALREADY GONE! :confused:

anyway i could always hear the steering lock working when i got in and out of the car so to make sure i disabled it, i cut the brown wire as suggested in one of the forums. no more noise of the lock when im getting in and out of the car and it shuts of and starts fine. :ugh2:

so i still need to get a back up steering lock JUST IN CASE. but thank god i got that thing to unlock one more time so i could disable it. im still not wanting to take the car far away from home for a while just to make sure its good to go. any questions just send a PM.

For real the fuse was already gone? First time I think I have seen that on any of the threads, that is just f#cked up! I hope everything keeps working for you! With the wire cut there should be no more issues, just listen to see if you hear the noise for the next few starts and shut offs as long as you don't hear it then I wouldn't worry about it any more.........:tup: GL and hope it stays off!

Jacky 11-19-2012 01:06 PM

So this issue only occur for 2009 model year?

wheee! 11-19-2012 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by bfowlzr33 (Post 2022953)
so i got the car towed back home today i wasnt about to have it towed to the stealership, i planned on fixing it myself. as soon as the tow truck left i figured id mess around with the assembly a lil bit. since it was already broke, i took the back side of my monkey wrench to that pos. and hit it harder just thinking about how i was going to have to pay about $600 bucks to replace it. guess that did the trick the car unlocked and started too because i was pushing the start button very fast. kept the car running and went to pull the fuse BUT IT WAS ALREADY GONE! :confused:

anyway i could always hear the steering lock working when i got in and out of the car so to make sure i disabled it, i cut the brown wire as suggested in one of the forums. no more noise of the lock when im getting in and out of the car and it shuts of and starts fine. :ugh2:

so i still need to get a back up steering lock JUST IN CASE. but thank god i got that thing to unlock one more time so i could disable it. im still not wanting to take the car far away from home for a while just to make sure its good to go. any questions just send a PM.

You definitely did NOT look for the right fuse then. It cannot be gone if the lock was still working. See the pic where the 10A fuse (bottom left, forth from bottom) has been pulled....

http://www.the370z.com/attachments/d...l-img_1436.jpg

http://www.the370z.com/attachments/d...l-img_1440.jpg

bfowlzr33 11-19-2012 01:34 PM

[QUOTE=wheee!;2023194]You definitely did NOT look for the right fuse then. It cannot be gone if the lock was still working. See the pic where the 10A fuse (bottom left, forth from bottom) has been pulled....




oh well now i feel like an idiot. i have never seen those fuses at all. how do you even get to them? are they in the same area as the battery? and thanks for the pics by the way. ive been looking for some for a while

onzedge 11-19-2012 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Jacky (Post 2023181)
So this issue only occur for 2009 model year?

No. Mine failed back in February.

bfowlzr33 11-19-2012 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Jacky (Post 2023181)
So this issue only occur for 2009 model year?

no not just the 2009, newer ones also.

bfowlzr33 11-19-2012 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by LMBmikeZ (Post 2023018)
For real the fuse was already gone? First time I think I have seen that on any of the threads, that is just f#cked up! I hope everything keeps working for you! With the wire cut there should be no more issues, just listen to see if you hear the noise for the next few starts and shut offs as long as you don't hear it then I wouldn't worry about it any more.........:tup: GL and hope it stays off!

to correct mysmelf, i was looking at the wrong fuse. my bad. i was thinking that couldnt be right it wouldnt have been making noise at all if the fuse has BEEN out. but no i cut the brown wire coming from the steering lock and *POOF* no more steering lock noises at all. and it starts and turns off fine. im still sketched out about driving it though. went home for lunch and made my wife drop me off back at work :icon14:

LMBmikeZ 11-19-2012 02:35 PM

LOL :rofl2: don't worry about it so many of has have been driving around without the locks for quite a while now and no one is having any issues related to that :tup:

wheee! 11-19-2012 04:31 PM

Your car is fine now you've cut the brown wire. But make sure you wrapped the ends cuz it carries voltage thru that line.
The fuse pull is indeed beside the battery, the full instructions are in Baers thread.

USMCASA 11-19-2012 04:46 PM

cut that cable or pull the damn fuse, trust me

pseftis 11-19-2012 06:49 PM

40th anni 370z's classified early 2010 models? any 40th with these issues?


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