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Mt Tam I am 10-11-2012 03:49 PM

This is why I pulled the fuse. I have a warrenty and extended 5 years as well, and still I don't want a minute of trouble. Are they up to Rev D+ yet?

If the car gets stolen, which is unlikely, I have insurance. I wish the part worked properly, as this is the best of all worlds.

MelloYello 10-11-2012 04:44 PM

Man, this is total bullsh*t. I've counted 33 people (myself included) on this forum that have had this issue and that's not counting people in other threads that I may have missed or others not even on this forum. I asked the dealer if there has been any recalls, and they said no. I see there was one on the GTR. I guess we all didn't spend enough money to deserve a recall. I know someone on the DIY thread provided a link to the NHTSA to write a letter. Does anyone know if there has been any follow up on this? Man, I better check the stickies around here and see what other unwanted surprises are coming my way with this car:shakes head:

bcr8ive 10-12-2012 07:48 AM

I agree...this is obviously a huge issue and it pisses me off that Nissan is getting off scott-free with it and in the mean time making money off of the cumsumer when we we are caught with our pants down. I'm ready to stand outside my local dealership with a sign to warn other buyers to stay clear.

I'd like to know if there are more issues I should be aware of too. Definitely not ruling out trading in the near future. You are absolutely right...this is complete ********!!!

edub370 10-12-2012 07:54 AM

why people arent just pulling their fuse is beyond me. 10 min of work and this is never a problem

robones 10-12-2012 07:57 AM

Is this steering failure and early 09 issue only? I have an 11 and I've never had any issues..... yet. Crossing fingers... I have warranty up to 100 k miles so I am not concerned about the repair costs if it were to fail but instead, the inconvenience if it were to fail and leave me stranded somewhere.

GaleForce 10-12-2012 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by robones (Post 1957650)
Is this steering failure and early 09 issue only? I have an 11 and I've never had any issues..... yet. Crossing fingers... I have warranty up to 100 k miles so I am not concerned about the repair costs if it were to fail but instead, the inconvenience if it were to fail and leave me stranded somewhere.

There was just a guy that posted in one of the other steering lock threads that his 2011 just failed. Best to either pull the fuse or buy the harness bypass, or cut "brownie". I bought the harness bypass.

bcr8ive 10-12-2012 09:07 AM

I was told by dealership that this issue is not covered under any warranty because it is an electrical component...heads up Z owners...

robones 10-12-2012 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by bcr8ive (Post 1957779)
I was told by dealership that this issue is not covered under any warranty because it is an electrical component...heads up Z owners...

This is not correct. if you have bumper to bumper coverage ANYTHING is covered under warranty; hence the name "bumper to bumper" which implies anything between front and rear bumper :)

GaleForce 10-12-2012 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by bcr8ive (Post 1957779)
I was told by dealership that this issue is not covered under any warranty because it is an electrical component...heads up Z owners...

Very untrue. There are members here that have gotten the bad part replaced under warranty.

BrianSoCal 10-12-2012 10:56 AM

Sorry for the cross post:

I ALMOST convinced the local Nissan dealer to install the part for me before it's eventual failure, but they emailed me back today and said no after this reply yesterday:

I personally have seen (1) 370z that was towed here for what turned out to be a "Steering Lock Assembly". It was about a year ago and the car was here for about (1) week due to a parts order. I did call Nissan regarding your concern. I was informed that dating back to February of 2011, he found (16) warranty claims for the part number you provided for the 2010 370z. My parts department tells me that the part # you provided does "supercede" to a different part#. However, one of my lead technicians tells me that not all of the 2010 370z's were produced with the same part#. In other words, your vehicle may already have the updated part. I would ask - how do you know the part# that is currently in your vehicle?

I have no issue with replacing the part for you, as long as my Service Director says 'OK'. I will not have a response for you, probably until tomorrow (Thurs).

My concern is that if we remove the existing part from your vehicle and it is sent to Nissan for a warranty claim and it is found to already have the updated part# the claim may be rejected if it has not actually failed internally.

Today:

Unfortunately I was informed that we are not to replace parts under warranty that have not actually failed. Irregardless of what part number is currently in your vehicle. Unless there is an open recall related to that repair. I would need to refer you to Nissan Consumer Affairs at 800-nissan1 to ask if they would authorize the replacement as a precautionary measure.

robones 10-12-2012 11:04 AM

Well duh! LOL they will not cover any part under warranty if it "has not failed yet" if it fails, they will cover it however!

edub370 10-12-2012 11:11 AM

Pull.... The.... Fuse.....


What's all the discussion for

BrianSoCal 10-12-2012 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by robones (Post 1958068)
Well duh! LOL they will not cover any part under warranty if it "has not failed yet" if it fails, they will cover it however!

Hey it was worth a try, an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure :tup:

6MT 10-12-2012 11:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by edub370 (Post 1958076)
Pull.... The.... Fuse.....


What's all the discussion for

:iagree: This thread is like beating a dead horse.... :ugh2:

Tazicon 10-12-2012 11:21 AM

Is the fuse marked steering lock? Which fuse do you pull? Does that fuse affect anything else? As soon as you answer I will walk outside and do it as I don't want to take a chance.

Naenyn 10-12-2012 11:48 AM

Do the 2012's or 2013's have this problem?

Jetlag 10-12-2012 11:49 AM

2010 40th anniversary edition. steering lock went out last night and I was stranded 40 f@cking miles from home. 39k miles on the car. seems like my car goes in the shop on e every 3 months for something stupid.

Mt Tam I am 10-12-2012 12:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tazicon (Post 1958092)
Is the fuse marked steering lock? Which fuse do you pull? Does that fuse affect anything else? As soon as you answer I will walk outside and do it as I don't want to take a chance.


370Z steering lock fuse removal

http://www.the370z.com/diy-section-d...lved-real.html

I used another thread I think as I recall more pics. The fuse box clearly tells you which fuse is what. The fuse box is a bit hard to get to but I did it so it can not be too tough.

Tazicon 10-12-2012 12:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mt Tam I am (Post 1958228)
370Z steering lock fuse removal

http://www.the370z.com/diy-section-d...lved-real.html

I used another thread I think as I recall more pics. The fuse box clearly tells you which fuse is what. The fuse box is a bit hard to get to but I did it so it can not be too tough.

Excellent thank you!

robones 10-12-2012 12:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jetlag (Post 1958131)
2010 40th anniversary edition. steering lock went out last night and I was stranded 40 f@cking miles from home. 39k miles on the car. seems like my car goes in the shop on e every 3 months for something stupid.

Sucks to hear man! I hope you have extended warranty if not its a costly item to replace.

Mt Tam I am 10-12-2012 01:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tazicon (Post 1958232)
Excellent thank you!


It seems harder than it is. 10 + minutes,and no more worries in the back of your mind.

GaleForce 10-12-2012 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Mt Tam I am (Post 1958348)
It seems harder than it is. 10 + minutes,and no more worries in the back of your mind.

So easy, a caveman could do it. :bowrofl:

JPnAZ 10-13-2012 05:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by edub370 (Post 1958076)
Pull.... The.... Fuse.....


What's all the discussion for

You cannot just "pull...the...fuse" if you cannot get the unit to unlock after failing, esp if you didnt know this was a common issue BEFORE having the problem...

JPnAZ 10-13-2012 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Dwight Frye (Post 1940324)
Were you following the threads about the issue and/or aware that there was a possibility of this part failing ?
It seems that a contributing factor is the number of cycles that the lock mechanism has gone through which certainly makes sense. The older the car, the higher the chance of failure. If you were aware that it might fail and you didn't perform one of the preemptive fixes like removing the fuse or spending $50 for the bypass harness you could have saved $1200 and the aggravation.
If you were completely unaware of the problem until it happened, you have our condolences.

Completely unaware

Six 10-14-2012 02:10 PM

2009 Touring MT

Rev A

37k

zugara 10-14-2012 03:30 PM

7525 2010 ? Uk

GaleForce 10-14-2012 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by zugara (Post 1961082)
7525 2010 ? Uk

Wat?

LMBmikeZ 10-14-2012 04:10 PM

I am so glad that I did one of the fixes so I don't have to worry about it any more. I always hate seeing people adding to this thread :shakes head: so disappointing that Nissan won't do there own fix...........well actually I guess they did since they removed the lock all together on the newer models.

Sorry to the people still dealing with this BS.....

edub370 10-14-2012 04:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JPnAZ (Post 1960046)
You cannot just "pull...the...fuse" if you cannot get the unit to unlock after failing, esp if you didnt know this was a common issue BEFORE having the problem...

u are correct.. after its broken u can't. that's y i keep telling people to just pull the fuse now. idk why there is all this discussion about upgrading to "rev LMNOP" or cutting wires or any of that. simply pulling the fuse solves the problem before there are any issues. if its already locked then it doesn't matter at that point

bcr8ive 10-15-2012 11:26 AM

Just out of curiousity...are there any other issues you guys may know about on the 370 that I may encounter?

SalA 10-15-2012 12:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by edub370 (Post 1961137)
u are correct.. after its broken u can't. that's y i keep telling people to just pull the fuse now. idk why there is all this discussion about upgrading to "rev LMNOP" or cutting wires or any of that. simply pulling the fuse solves the problem before there are any issues. if its already locked then it doesn't matter at that point

Absolutely Agree...I have about 9K miles on my 2009...Still under warranty and I just went ahead and installed the By Pass Harness. The lock is obviously a problem that Nissan refuses to acknowledge. At that point, you need to take action yourself.

edub370 10-15-2012 12:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bcr8ive (Post 1962523)
Just out of curiousity...are there any other issues you guys may know about on the 370 that I may encounter?

trans synchros (more specifically 5th and 6th gear)

GaleForce 10-15-2012 01:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bcr8ive (Post 1962523)
Just out of curiousity...are there any other issues you guys may know about on the 370 that I may encounter?

Quote:

Originally Posted by edub370 (Post 1962698)
trans synchros (more specifically 5th and 6th gear)

Excessive oil consumption, faulty fuel senders, weak CSC...

onzedge 10-15-2012 01:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GaleForce (Post 1962734)
Excessive oil consumption, faulty fuel senders, weak CSC...

...pants getting tight in the crotch whilst conquering twisty roads in a spirited fashion.,,

...becoming a babe magnet...

...obsessing on rep points delivered to your forum pals every day...

...lost productivity at the office due to searching the net for your next modification...

...attorney fees for your divorce after your wife told you "it's me or the Z"...

...etc.

GaleForce 10-15-2012 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onzedge (Post 1962756)
...pants getting tight in the crotch whilst conquering twisty roads in a spirited fashion.,,

...becoming a babe magnet...

...obsessing on rep points delivered to your forum pals every day...

...lost productivity at the office due to searching the net for your next modification...

...attorney fees for your divorce after your wife told you "it's me or the Z"...

...etc.

:icon18: those are some all of my favourites!

Mt Tam I am 10-15-2012 01:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LMBmikeZ (Post 1961134)
I am so glad that I did one of the fixes so I don't have to worry about it any more. I always hate seeing people adding to this thread :shakes head: so disappointing that Nissan won't do there own fix...........well actually I guess they did since they removed the lock all together on the newer models.

Sorry to the people still dealing with this BS.....

I did not know this.

LMBmikeZ 10-15-2012 02:35 PM

yep I think it is gone as of the '12 models...........someone correct me if I am wrong but pretty sure that was when they deleted it.

GaleForce 10-15-2012 02:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LMBmikeZ (Post 1962925)
yep I think it is gone as of the '12 models...........someone correct me if I am wrong but pretty sure that was when they deleted it.

You are correct. I think Mr.onzedge was one of the first people to visually confirm this and report back.

edub370 10-15-2012 03:54 PM

sooo pulling the fuse and dissabling the lock on my 2009 = 2012 z? lol

robones 10-15-2012 04:12 PM

By doing this mod you guys are essentially removing any security should your car ever get stolen correct? I wonder how would your insurance company handle a claim for a car who's theft deterrent system has been compromised?


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