Top Gear 370Z v. Cayman article

desertzrat · 07-27-2009, 05:48 PM

Drove a Boxter S for 4 years. While my 370Z is still too new to push real hard or on a track I estimate I have 80% of the S for less than 1/2 the price. I think that is great value

tvfreakazoid · 07-28-2009, 04:48 AM

Both nice car's but if I could afford the caymen, i may get that instead or GTR.

gnarf · 07-28-2009, 08:38 AM

^^ I agree..for the price of a Cayman S..I would much rather buy an e92 M3 or a Grand Sport/Z06 Corvette

kekermahoney · 07-29-2009, 11:40 PM

bang for the buck you cant beat a vette, which is always compared to cars 2 or 3 times as much $$.. the new Z is no different, drawing comparison to cars more expensive because it poops on anything close to its base price :-)

gnarf · 07-30-2009, 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by kekermahoney

bang for the buck you cant beat a vette, which is always compared to cars 2 or 3 times as much $$.. the new Z is no different, drawing comparison to cars more expensive because it poops on anything close to its base price :-)

definitely...maintenance is low unlike a Porsche, they are economical, good looking, powerful...you really cant go wrong with a Vette except for the fact that most owners are larger white middle aged men...sort of cliched...The new grand sport really appeals to me a lot more (Z06 Brakes, Suspension, Wide Body look without Z06 price)..but for the price range the Z is perfect for me...

spearfish25 · 07-30-2009, 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by travisjb

it was always a special thrill to get by a 911 in my boxster... same will be true when we get by GTRs in our 370s !

Whoa there! Base 911s are similarly powered yet bigger and heavier than a Boxster S or Cayman. So, 911s can get trumped. Unless you have your 370Z modded and putting out over 400whp, I don't think we have a prayer of besting a GTR. But the GTR looks sweet from behind, so I don't mind following it

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travisjb · 07-30-2009, 11:31 AM

Um, well, I got around a GTR at Phoenix Intl Raceway about 3 months ago after following closely behind it for a few laps... so, YES WE CAN!

It was DE4 and the GTR driver had plenty of experience at PIR, so hard to pin it on rookie driving

Posted here: Third trackday! All is good!
"... and here's the best part ! I think I got a lot of attention in the fourth and final session when I hung with a GTR for two laps and then PASSED IT ! Corner workers were clearly pleased... I managed to get about 10 car lengths ahead before the session ended..."

My point is that the stock 370z (with an oil cooler!) is really not far off the GTR as a track car. And a prepared 370z IMO is a better track car.

spearfish25 · 07-30-2009, 12:54 PM

Any video of you passing the GTR? I'm curious what the track is like.

Put the 370Z against a GTR in 'The Ring' and the GTR will smoke it by a long shot. Now a tight, twisty track with short straights may give the 370Z the advantage...

travisjb · 07-30-2009, 02:31 PM

I have to apologize, don't want to come across as bragging... that's probably what it sounded like...

Yes, I agree, the GTR will eat up a near-stock or stock Z on any course with long stretches - assuming equal drivers... PIR road course is a 1.6 mile course based on a short nascar oval... it uses one long nascar straight and two corners, then interior track with many turns. It favors aggressive braking and be daring around concrete and tire walls... Ie GTR was probably driving more conservatively... it was before I installed video... my next PIR event isn't until 9/12-13, and I will have video then and will try to line up with any GTRs that are there... you can see video of my last event from miller motorsports here (TravisJB Track Video) unfortunately no GTR only a lotus exige on race tires to watch... lotus got around me after 4 laps on my tail, after my engine cut out due to disconnected o2 sensor

mnms370Z · 08-05-2009, 12:34 AM

I see alot of poeple already modifying their cars. Where are these parts available? I live in NH and am having alot of trouble finding parts.
Help!

travisjb · 08-05-2009, 12:46 AM

call sharif at forged or mike at ddm and they will give you a list of like 20 parts you MUST BUY! lol...

semtex · 08-05-2009, 06:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mnms370Z

I see alot of poeple already modifying their cars. Where are these parts available? I live in NH and am having alot of trouble finding parts.
Help!

Holy crap dude, just look at the homepage and scroll down a little, and there's a big long list of sponsors and vendors.

nicknick · 10-22-2009, 06:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Musashi

You cannot compare a corvette to a Porsche. I have had a few of each. My C6's had problem after problem. Porsche's are a much better car.

Also, I don't think the Z and Cayman should be compared. Very different machines.

no they are not "very different" machines. Both a 2 door, 2 seat sports cars, rear drive, 6 cylinder engines, sexy, fast, handle well, brake well etc. It is just that one costs more, cause your paying for a badge and cred snobbery to boast to your mates at golf clubs!!

Sand123 · 10-22-2009, 07:42 PM

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I never driven a rear engine car but isnt it kind of not worth it?
I have only heard and seen "horror" storys of the car spinning out due to rear engine.

Cayman isn't rear engined. It's mid engine. Perfect balance.

maggot head · 10-24-2009, 11:53 PM

[QUOTE=gnarf;130766].you really cant go wrong with a Vette except for the fact that most owners are larger white middle aged men...sort of cliched...

Sort of a generalization. People of all races and ages drive vettes. People of all races and ages drive Zs, not just smaller 20 something asian guys.

07-28-2009, 04:48 AM	#62 (permalink)
tvfreakazoid A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: kommie kali Posts: 1,238 Drives: 2015 Audi S5; 6spd. Rep Power: 10324	Both nice car's but if I could afford the caymen, i may get that instead or GTR. __________________ Mudders milk

07-30-2009, 11:31 AM	#67 (permalink)
travisjb A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: GSO Posts: 2,803 Drives: VIR Rep Power: 188	Um, well, I got around a GTR at Phoenix Intl Raceway about 3 months ago after following closely behind it for a few laps... so, YES WE CAN! It was DE4 and the GTR driver had plenty of experience at PIR, so hard to pin it on rookie driving Posted here: Third trackday! All is good! "... and here's the best part ! I think I got a lot of attention in the fourth and final session when I hung with a GTR for two laps and then PASSED IT ! Corner workers were clearly pleased... I managed to get about 10 car lengths ahead before the session ended..." My point is that the stock 370z (with an oil cooler!) is really not far off the GTR as a track car. And a prepared 370z IMO is a better track car. __________________ 2009 370Z #104 For Sale

07-30-2009, 02:31 PM	#69 (permalink)
travisjb A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: GSO Posts: 2,803 Drives: VIR Rep Power: 188	I have to apologize, don't want to come across as bragging... that's probably what it sounded like... Yes, I agree, the GTR will eat up a near-stock or stock Z on any course with long stretches - assuming equal drivers... PIR road course is a 1.6 mile course based on a short nascar oval... it uses one long nascar straight and two corners, then interior track with many turns. It favors aggressive braking and be daring around concrete and tire walls... Ie GTR was probably driving more conservatively... it was before I installed video... my next PIR event isn't until 9/12-13, and I will have video then and will try to line up with any GTRs that are there... you can see video of my last event from miller motorsports here (TravisJB Track Video) unfortunately no GTR only a lotus exige on race tires to watch... lotus got around me after 4 laps on my tail, after my engine cut out due to disconnected o2 sensor __________________ 2009 370Z #104 For Sale

08-05-2009, 12:46 AM	#71 (permalink)
travisjb A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: GSO Posts: 2,803 Drives: VIR Rep Power: 188	call sharif at forged or mike at ddm and they will give you a list of like 20 parts you MUST BUY! lol... __________________ 2009 370Z #104 For Sale

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07-27-2009, 05:48 PM	#61 (permalink)
desertzrat Base Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Las Cruces NM Posts: 20 Drives: 09 370ZT Platinium 6 Rep Power: 15	Drove a Boxter S for 4 years. While my 370Z is still too new to push real hard or on a track I estimate I have 80% of the S for less than 1/2 the price. I think that is great value

07-28-2009, 08:38 AM	#63 (permalink)
gnarf Base Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Jersey Posts: 160 Drives: G37 Rep Power: 15	^^ I agree..for the price of a Cayman S..I would much rather buy an e92 M3 or a Grand Sport/Z06 Corvette

07-29-2009, 11:40 PM	#64 (permalink)
kekermahoney Base Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: NJ Posts: 57 Drives: 370z sport 6spd Rep Power: 15	bang for the buck you cant beat a vette, which is always compared to cars 2 or 3 times as much $$.. the new Z is no different, drawing comparison to cars more expensive because it poops on anything close to its base price :-)

07-30-2009, 12:54 PM	#68 (permalink)
spearfish25 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Naples, FL Posts: 4,117 Drives: to work Rep Power: 1856	Any video of you passing the GTR? I'm curious what the track is like. Put the 370Z against a GTR in 'The Ring' and the GTR will smoke it by a long shot. Now a tight, twisty track with short straights may give the 370Z the advantage...

08-05-2009, 12:34 AM	#70 (permalink)
mnms370Z Base Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Milford New Hampshire Posts: 21 Drives: White 370Z Tour/Sprt Rep Power: 15	I see alot of poeple already modifying their cars. Where are these parts available? I live in NH and am having alot of trouble finding parts. Help!

10-24-2009, 11:53 PM	#75 (permalink)
maggot head Base Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: colombia Posts: 16 Drives: 370z 2009 white Rep Power: 15	[QUOTE=gnarf;130766].you really cant go wrong with a Vette except for the fact that most owners are larger white middle aged men...sort of cliched... Sort of a generalization. People of all races and ages drive vettes. People of all races and ages drive Zs, not just smaller 20 something asian guys.