fall weather. the Z is staying at 190 degrees with,

UNKNOWN_370 · 10-29-2011, 10:52 AM

SYNTHETIC. Well my Z has seen a huge change in performance. Aggressive driving, the Z stayed steady at 190 degrees with an average temp outside of 53 degrees. This past week I haven't seen more than 230. All excellent temps. I know the weather is the culprit. Hmmm. It seems k&n filter and a good synthetic oil keep this car at bay in fall and temps below 90 degree weather.
Which garners this question. Would adding an oil cooler for intense summer heat damage the car during cooler and winter months when driving? I'm in texas so putting the Z away for winter is about 4 to 6 weeks... lol.
Is there a way to disengage oil cooling during winter months without removing the unit. I've never driven either Z in such cool weather and its doing insanely well.

Red__Zed · 10-29-2011, 11:18 AM

search for block off plate and thermostatic coupler. this has been discussed ad nauseam

kenchan · 10-29-2011, 11:58 AM

so this is full synthetic then?

i currently run mobil1 silver cap and temps are around 190-220 range which is normal for the car, i thinks. ambient temp 35F to 42F during the drive.... (spirited drive).

cdoxp800 · 10-29-2011, 12:48 PM

Mine staying at 165 degrees, but then again I have 34 row oil cooler.

Skeeterbop · 10-29-2011, 02:19 PM

I would think that is a bit low from everything i have seen and read. Seems like you would want at least 190 once warmed up.

Red__Zed · 10-29-2011, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Skeeterbop

I would think that is a bit low from everything i have seen and read. Seems like you would want at least 190 once warmed up.

it is very low. most oil is not doing a whole lot for the engine at that point.

11Thumper · 10-29-2011, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by cdoxp800

Mine staying at 165 degrees, but then again I have 34 row oil cooler.

Not good you want the water in the oil to burn off. Water doesn't boil at 165 F.

m4a1mustang · 10-29-2011, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by cdoxp800

Mine staying at 165 degrees, but then again I have 34 row oil cooler.

You need something to cover a good part of the core. That's way, way, way too low.

LakeShow · 10-29-2011, 05:55 PM

Bought my car a week ago so it has not been over 185-190. I'm not sure what's going to happen in the summer.

ImportConvert · 10-29-2011, 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by 11Thumper

Not good you want the water in the oil to burn off. Water doesn't boil at 165 F.

You don't need to hit 212* to get rid of water. Hell, my drier doesn't hit 212*, but my clothes are still dry.

165* is still way too low for automotive oil to function the way it was intended. I would imagine it is VERY thick at 165*, as compared to the 200=ish it is made to work at. Too thick = not getting where it needs to go/extra strain on the oil-pump, etc. etc.

red6spd · 10-29-2011, 06:52 PM

I let mine warm up for a while in the driveway then take it real easy untill she gets around 180+.

onzedge · 10-29-2011, 07:03 PM

Shouldn't the thermostatic sandwich plate not allow oil to flow to the cooler until it achieves whatever temperature threshold at which the plate is set? I thought that is how it worked. Maybe not, though.

KaienZ34 · 10-29-2011, 07:16 PM

The plate never closes all the way, if it did then the cold oil from the cooler would slam the engine when the plate did open and that's no good. It stays slightly open all the time and opens up all the way at around 180*.

KaienZ34 · 10-29-2011, 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by red6spd

I let mine warm up for a while in the driveway then take it real easy untill she gets around 180+.

This is how i do it also, let it run a good while when it's cold out and keep the rpm's under 2k-2500ish until over 180*. This winter i think i'll cover most of the cooler so i don't have to worry as much. Also putting an oil pressure gauge in just in case a leak would happen.

cossie1600 · 10-29-2011, 08:56 PM

Modern engines are built to get you to operating temperature as fast as possible, you are going to slow the process by letting the car idle and warm up? What is this, 1965s on carb. cars? Just drive it normal and don't beat on it when it is cold, common sense.

10-29-2011, 10:52 AM	#1 (permalink)
UNKNOWN_370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: ny'r livn in tx Posts: 8,687 Drives: well over 130m.p.h. Rep Power: 14857	fall weather. the Z is staying at 190 degrees with, SYNTHETIC. Well my Z has seen a huge change in performance. Aggressive driving, the Z stayed steady at 190 degrees with an average temp outside of 53 degrees. This past week I haven't seen more than 230. All excellent temps. I know the weather is the culprit. Hmmm. It seems k&n filter and a good synthetic oil keep this car at bay in fall and temps below 90 degree weather. Which garners this question. Would adding an oil cooler for intense summer heat damage the car during cooler and winter months when driving? I'm in texas so putting the Z away for winter is about 4 to 6 weeks... lol. Is there a way to disengage oil cooling during winter months without removing the unit. I've never driven either Z in such cool weather and its doing insanely well.

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cdoxp800 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2009 Location: FL Posts: 1,337 Drives: 2011 Nismo Rep Power: 19	Mine staying at 165 degrees, but then again I have 34 row oil cooler. __________________ 2011 Brilliant Silver NISMO 370z. #: 0046. PPE LTH \| MillSpec Cats \| F.I Exhaust \| Akuma Intakes \| Rotora 6/4 Brakes

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Skeeterbop A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Fort Bliss, TX Age: 40 Posts: 1,440 Drives: 2011 GM 370 base SP Rep Power: 16	I would think that is a bit low from everything i have seen and read. Seems like you would want at least 190 once warmed up. __________________ Srenity: "Yeah no rest needed to spread the love when your 20 that's for sure...."

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LakeShow A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: L.I., NY Posts: 5,307 Drives: Everything Rep Power: 25	Bought my car a week ago so it has not been over 185-190. I'm not sure what's going to happen in the summer. __________________ \|2013 Audi S4\|Ibis White/Black\|S-Tronic P+\| \|2013 370z\|PearlWhite/Persimmon\|Touring/Sport/Nav\|F.I. CBE 18" CF\| \|Sold\|2011 370z\|Gun Metallic\|Touring/Sport/Nav\|

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red6spd A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Long Island NY Posts: 3,277 Drives: 2010 Z Coupe M6 SPT Rep Power: 21	I let mine warm up for a while in the driveway then take it real easy untill she gets around 180+. __________________ 2010 Base+Sport 6spd: Stillen G3, FI Non-Resonated CBE, FI Non-Resonated Test Pipes, UpRev Tuned, Custom 24R Oil Cooler, JDM Rear Fog-OEM Harness. ???Whp ???WTQ (Will find out come spring time)

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Red__Zed A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: window seat Posts: 28,940 Drives: Mostly on two wheels Rep Power: 119	search for block off plate and thermostatic coupler. this has been discussed ad nauseam

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kenchan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: N/A Posts: 76,801 Drives: N/A Rep Power: 141520	so this is full synthetic then? i currently run mobil1 silver cap and temps are around 190-220 range which is normal for the car, i thinks. ambient temp 35F to 42F during the drive.... (spirited drive).

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onzedge A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Battle Lake MN Age: 63 Posts: 183,964 Drives: 370Z 240Z Rep Power: 2684736	Shouldn't the thermostatic sandwich plate not allow oil to flow to the cooler until it achieves whatever temperature threshold at which the plate is set? I thought that is how it worked. Maybe not, though. __________________ Koni\|Swift\|Michelin\|Motordyne\|Berk\|RJM Performance\|Gates\|SPL\|Motul\|Technafit\|Ate Super Blue\|Hawk Tommy Kaira\|Momo\|Optima\|Hella\|Hotchkis\|Red Line\|ZSpeed\|Stillen\|B&M\|H&R

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KaienZ34 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: LA. not L.a. Posts: 21,652 Drives: Z34 Tour/Sport Rep Power: 177	The plate never closes all the way, if it did then the cold oil from the cooler would slam the engine when the plate did open and that's no good. It stays slightly open all the time and opens up all the way at around 180. __________________ "These Violent Delights Have Violent Ends"* http://www.the370z.com/members/kaienz34-albums-z34.html

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cossie1600 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: californee way Posts: 5,380 Drives: 370, Leaf Rep Power: 29	Modern engines are built to get you to operating temperature as fast as possible, you are going to slow the process by letting the car idle and warm up? What is this, 1965s on carb. cars? Just drive it normal and don't beat on it when it is cold, common sense.

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