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Demon Z 11-30-2011 10:33 AM

The Z's future
 
Nissan commits to 370Z's future - Autocar.co.uk

Pretty good news if you ask me...

Jeffblue 11-30-2011 10:42 AM

the longest the Z was ever really fully phased out for was like 4 years from 99 to 2003.

Cell 11-30-2011 11:04 AM

If they go ALL electric then I definitely will not be buying another Z. If it was a hybrid with 400hp, then MAYBE I can consider another Z in the future. If they do go the turbo route then I would probably be all over it.

Rui Z 11-30-2011 11:30 AM

Just like the 240Z introduced people to affordable sports cars, I hope the next Z introduces people to affordable electric sports cars. Assuming the driving range improves, the only thing I would miss would be the exhaust note.

m4a1mustang 11-30-2011 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Rui Z (Post 1429336)
Just like the 240Z introduced people to affordable sports cars, I hope the next Z introduces people to affordable electric sports cars. Assuming the driving range improves, the only thing I would miss would be the exhaust note.

I've been talking this talk for a while now. Looks like I might be right.

edub370 11-30-2011 11:37 AM

If the z goes electric i will never own one... EVER.... turbo'd hell yes. im sorry but you loss everything fun about owning a sports car when u go electric. (sound, feel, modability, testicles)... alll those things gone with electric cars.

m4a1mustang 11-30-2011 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by edub370 (Post 1429344)
If the z goes electric i will never own one... EVER.... turbo'd hell yes. im sorry but you loss everything fun about owning a sports car when u go electric. (sound, feel, modability, testicles)... alll those things gone with electric cars.

It's where the world is heading, though, so you might as well be first to the party.

USMCram 11-30-2011 11:39 AM

Look up the tesla

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m4a1mustang 11-30-2011 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Usmcram (Post 1429348)
Look up the tesla

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True,

EV technology can be pretty cool if done right. It can only get better as technology advances.

Yeah, it's not the same fire breathing stuff we all know and love... but if that's the way the world goes we can at least still have power. And instant torque. :tup:

cheshirecat 11-30-2011 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by edub370 (Post 1429344)
If the z goes electric i will never own one... EVER.... turbo'd hell yes. im sorry but you loss everything fun about owning a sports car when u go electric. (sound, feel, modability, testicles)... alll those things gone with electric cars.

100% of peak torque available straight off the line may change your mind.

edub370 11-30-2011 11:46 AM

look at teslas review on top gear. a 55 mile range and handling like a pig is not what i call fun. furthermore, i believe that there will be something to replace gasoline for internal combustion engines. if not, there will be millions of 2 ton paperweights around the worls... im sry but the world will never go full electric practically...

m4a1mustang 11-30-2011 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by edub370 (Post 1429364)
look at teslas review on top gear. a 55 mile range and handling like a pig is not what i call fun. furthermore, i believe that there will be something to replace gasoline for internal combustion engines. if not, there will be millions of 2 ton paperweights around the worls... im sry but the world will never go full electric practically...

It will take a long time to get there.

edub370 11-30-2011 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 1429368)
It will take a long time to get there.

agreed. right now unforunately the words sports car and electric do not go in the same sentence. current technology doesnt allow it. nissan will be writing the z's death sentence if it does this.



"We've got to pause and ask ourselves: How much clean air do we need?"--Lee Iacocca

:icon18:

m4a1mustang 11-30-2011 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by edub370 (Post 1429374)
agreed. right now unforunately the words sports car and electric do not go in the same sentence. current technology doesnt allow it. nissan will be writing the z's death sentence if it does this

If gas gets super cheap it will be a death sentence...

But that's unlikely. It's got a better chance at reinvigorating the Z brand than it does destroying it, IMO. My guess is we'd see a hybrid Z before a full electric.

KaienZ34 11-30-2011 11:58 AM

People where scared and disliked the car when it first came out. Horse back was the main personal transport. Just look at how far it has come since then.

b1adesofcha0s 11-30-2011 12:01 PM

Good to hear! :tup:

Yeah it would take a really long time for the world to get to fully (or mostly) electric. I'm interested in what the modding scene will be like for electric cars. You know it's not going to disappear, but it will be very different from what it is today. Probably more suspension than power mods or maybe more emphasis on tuning? Bigger electric motors for the wheels? Aftermarket combustion engine? :icon17:

b1adesofcha0s 11-30-2011 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by edub370 (Post 1429374)
agreed. right now unforunately the words sports car and electric do not go in the same sentence. current technology doesnt allow it. nissan will be writing the z's death sentence if it does this.



"We've got to pause and ask ourselves: How much clean air do we need?"--Lee Iacocca

:icon18:

Actually, with companies like Porsche, Ferrari, and Audi turning to hybrid/electric sports cars, that may change within a couple years as they get more involved in those projects.

I think people will change their minds once these cars go mainstream and people actually get a chance to drive them.

Lug 11-30-2011 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by edub370 (Post 1429374)
agreed. right now unforunately the words sports car and electric do not go in the same sentence. current technology doesnt allow it. nissan will be writing the z's death sentence if it does this.



The key word is "current". For example, if they work out the kinks in Zinc-Air batteries, you've gone 95% of the way to get to where you need to be (lot lighter..lot more power). That the Leaf already works as basic transportation shows the direction we will probably end up going.

edub370 11-30-2011 12:20 PM

do we really want to be 80 years old and telling our grandkids "i rememeber when cars were real cars. when u reved them up they made noise and you could actually here the acceleration u were feeling."

m4a1mustang 11-30-2011 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by edub370 (Post 1429428)
do we really want to be 80 years old and telling our grandkids "i rememeber when cars were real cars. when u reved them up they made noise and you could actually here the acceleration u were feeling."

Whether we want to or not that's how it's going to be.

KaienZ34 11-30-2011 12:24 PM

They will just have a sound system that is hooked to the throttle that makes engine and exhaust sounds.

edub370 11-30-2011 12:26 PM

i still believe something will need to replace gasoline to run in internal combustion engines. there are over 750 million vehicles in the world today. can u imagine car companies allowing themselves to turn 750 million vehicles into 2 ton paperweights? every vehicle made to this point would become obsolete

b1adesofcha0s 11-30-2011 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by edub370 (Post 1429440)
i still believe something will need to replace gasoline to run in internal combustion engines. there are over 750 million vehicles in the world today. can u imagine car companies allowing themselves to turn 750 million vehicles into 2 ton paperweights? every vehicle made to this point would become obsolete

Which is exactly why it would take FOREVER! They would have to figure out some way for them to be recycled into useful material. I don't think we'd ever reach a point where they were all gone. There will always be a few left, desperately hung onto by enthusiasts.

kenchan 11-30-2011 12:41 PM

im so glad i bought my gasoline powered 6MT Z. :)

edub370 11-30-2011 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 1429460)
im so glad i bought my gasoline powered 6MT Z. :)

HAH all those things mentioned above are becoming rare

Spikuh 11-30-2011 12:46 PM

Hybrid Z would awesome so long as they keep the current engine in place. Only concern would be about how long the batteries would hold up for track use.

ProfessorDave 11-30-2011 12:51 PM

You guys are funny! Electric cars! :icon17:

What's next?!? Phones without dials and cords?!? :bowrofl:

m4a1mustang 11-30-2011 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by ProfessorDave (Post 1429474)
You guys are funny! Electric cars! :icon17:

What's next?!? Phones without dials and cords?!? :bowrofl:

File photo of Dave and his cell phone:

http://image.shutterstock.com/displa...e-10139932.jpg

He's got a new 150 ft cord for it, so you can call him even when he's out working on the yard! :tup:

KaienZ34 11-30-2011 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by ProfessorDave (Post 1429474)
You guys are funny! Electric cars! :icon17:

What's next?!? Phones without dials and cords?!? :bowrofl:

:iagree:

Then what a computer the size of a phone that you can use anywhere. :icon14:

Alchemy 11-30-2011 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Usmcram (Post 1429348)
Look up the tesla

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I have personally seen these in action and ill tell you this, although it only goes about 120 mph I believe, it takes off like a bat outta hell. Instant torque. I was blown away the first time I saw one rip off from a standstill. Electric isnt appealing to me. I like the gas, the loud engines and exhaust notes. Not having an exhaust to me is no fun. Is gonna be a sad day when combustion engines cease to be produced. We will ALL be driving electric someday Im sure.

PapoZalsa 11-30-2011 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeffblue (Post 1429238)
the longest the Z was ever really fully phased out for was like 4 years from 99 to 2003.

That was in Japan, here in the US was like 1996 to 2003.

Cmike2780 11-30-2011 01:28 PM

I have doubts about pure electric cars becoming the mainstream norm, but fuel cell hydroden/electric cars do show promising concepts. We just need to get the infrastructure in place. Battery tech development is starting to plateau, but I'm sure there will be some kind of breakthrough. Just look at how cell phones have evolved due to consumer demand. 10-15 years ago it was the size & weight of a brick and couldn't even send out a text message. Now I can tell Siri "I want to see boobs" and it gives me directions to the 5 strip clubs near me... that's friggen awesome!

The likelyhood of cars becoming autonomous is looming. The most ineffeciant part of the automobile is the driver. In the future, it won't really matter what fuel or power source is used. Driving will become a recreational activity like walking or jogging.

azn370z 11-30-2011 01:39 PM

Yeah like I've said before the z won't disappear because the z, g, and fx share the same platform. It doesn't make financial sense to get rid of the z but not the others. But I'm glad to hear a 200 hp z is not in the future. Maybe all the people complaining about low z sales will stop freaking out now.

UNKNOWN_370 11-30-2011 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by edub370 (Post 1429344)
If the z goes electric i will never own one... EVER.... turbo'd hell yes. im sorry but you loss everything fun about owning a sports car when u go electric. (sound, feel, modability, testicles)... alll those things gone with electric cars.

AMEN BROTHER!!! The gospel has been spoken. Electric sports cars are for pansies and pacifists. Electrify sedans. I don't care. Electrify vans SUV's and government vehicles. Kool. Hybridize 18 wheelers and other utility commerical vehicles. But when you bend over to the conversion of sports cars???? That's where all respect for the auto industry is broken. Where's the dignity in these engineers even thinking about an electric"SPORTS" car??? What is the future of FI? Buying a higher volt/ohm battery pack? Will we be upgrading our stereos for better simulated exhaust rumble?
No thanks, no pansymobiles disguised as a sports car for me. This is why its important to upgrade weak parts in our Z's for durability. The gas engine as we know it will be over inside of a decade. Our cars will be valueable classics as well as every other muscle/sports car of today. The world will be one giant honda CR-Z/toy prius and Teslas will continue to cost a heart and lung. The classics will rule beause the future will be us being forced to buy the nissan Z-ev pansy edition. Lmfao!

dAvenue 11-30-2011 01:58 PM

Electric Sports Cars: just another good reason to nix the EPA.

FL 4Motion 11-30-2011 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 1429339)
I've been talking this talk for a while now. Looks like I might be right.

agreed, BUT if the next gen Z comes in around 2015-2016, it won't be full EV, the tech just isn't there yet for range and recharge times. it would be terribly impractical.

Next gen hybrid Z, def possible and if done right, could be good fun and good performing.

Rui Z 11-30-2011 02:11 PM

change is frightening i guess

m4a1mustang 11-30-2011 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by FL 4Motion (Post 1429562)
agreed, BUT if the next gen Z comes in around 2015-2016, it won't be full EV, the tech just isn't there yet for range and recharge times. it would be terribly impractical.

Next gen hybrid Z, def possible and if done right, could be good fun and good performing.

I also said this earlier in the thread. ;)

m4a1mustang 11-30-2011 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Rui Z (Post 1429572)
change is frightening i guess

:iagree:

FL 4Motion 11-30-2011 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 1429573)
I also said this earlier in the thread. ;)

crap, must've just glossed over it.


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