Well Polyphony Digital (part of Sony) who make the Gran Turismo games also designed the information display in the GT-R :tup:

HUH, didnt know that!!!:tup:

It's a pretty cool display too, got to check it out in my friend's GT-R :tup:

Yeah saw your thread about your GTR adventure:tup: Im jelly.

It was a lot of fun. Best part is, he comes to our local meets so I will get to see it every other week :tup:

Now Im extra jelly:roflpuke2:

Im looking forward to seeing a few at ZDAYZ this year.

I had thought about trading my Z for a 5.0 before, but now I'm aiming straight for a used GT-R as soon as I can :icon17:

I like this idea MUCH more:tup::tup::tup:

haha I had a family friend in Iran (used to live there until 16) who thought his cordless housephone was a cellphone n always had it in his pocket. He never found out it wasnt since he never went too far from his house.

You're such an optimist. Why don't you take off those rose colored glasses and come back to reality huh? :p

I wouldn't mind if our Z34 was the last iteration. Imagine if they were gonna come out with a hybrid/EV GT-R....

Me too, I just hope I can afford it :rofl2:

I could see that happening maybe for the R36 or maybe R37 GT-R......

I love how people think the EV will be the doom of the sports car. It might be the end of the current sports car, but I for one think they would just keep getting better. Also, wouldn't happen overnight, so all the tuners would have time to adapt. If they can't then maybe it's time for a new tuner to step up. And some of you honestly think that the Electric motor will kill the aftermarket? I think it has the potential to make it even stronger. Yes you won't be upgrading internals and using turbos or superchargers, but you will still be doing things like upgrading batteries or using more powerful motors. Take a look at electric R/C cars, they are easily just as capable in every aspect as their Nitro powered brethren. Give it time and the full size electrics will be on the same level as gas powered cars performance wise.

1. Unless I missed it, they talked about lightweight cheap-o sports cars being electric in the near future, not the Z.

2. Electric sports cars done properly would blow the doors off of any combustion motor powered car. Peak torque at 1 RPM. I'd happily take that over loud and spews carcinogens.

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:iagree: Im into r/c and its amazing what the lipo batteries are capable of. Whats even more mind boggling is that the Tesla motor is basically an enlarged r/c motor:tup:

but your missing the point, the car loses all soul, all personality. no sound or any sense of animation will make even the fastest car seem boring

example:

2010 tesla 0-60 in 3.7 seconds
2010 aston martin db9 in 4.7 seconds

although the tesla is faster i GARUNTEE the aston is more exhilarating to drive because it has a sense of excitement and gives the illusion of speed with a great engine note. there is no replacing the feeling of a driver getting to run thru gears or hear a beautiful exhaust note.

electric cars lack all those things that make a great car a great car.




We've got to pause and ask ourselves: How much clean air do we need?
-Lee Iacocca-

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To each their own i guess. I for one, will never let any preconceived ideas keep me from enjoying a sports car regardless of power plant. There is a lot more to making a great sports car than just the engine/exhaust note.

just think what makes 60's muscle cars great... they arent the fastest things, they are shitty with gas mileage, but damn are they cool. all the things that make those cars cool are the exact things that will be lost in electric cars.

what sense of passion would be left in sports cars

more to the point-- how long before we no longer care? I figure my grandkids will associate the sound of a gas engine with slow response and poor efficiency...

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"Carry on some tradition"?????? Wow, why are you even here with a statement like that? S Its kinda hard to believe you are a true enthusiast of sports cars. I was actually paying attention to what you had to say and respected most of your opinions till you straight dismissed a huge reason why we get on forums everyday. I thought it was the commonality of loving these cars for what they are and also Love of tuning and everything that comes with it. Including our combustion engines. "Some tradition is why we buy Z's and why most buy muscle. I guess to you a sports car just means you are faster than most and that's it huh?

And the forefront of technology isn't so much all that true in the affordable sports car realm. A lot of that tech is hand me down tech from decade old exotics. The Z's SRM is a hand-me-down tech from DRM recalibrated to work on manuals. Vvel is just an update of older tech and the 7at is just dual overdrives. These are things that aren't huge breakthroughs. Its just improving on an old invention. Its not like the Z has the GTR tranny in it with other gadgetry and features. Your beloved mustang still rolling on a skate board suspension isn't screaming high tech at all. So I'm not sure where you get sports cars are at the forefront of technology? At least in the price range we are in.

Things change and technology advances. Sure, it's great to hear and smell a gasoline engine but as enthusiasts I think electric sports cars with software that can allow us to alter vehicle performance isn't something to turn your back on. Instant torque is always nice too!

I'm driving a 7AT Z. No, I'm not married and yes I can drive manual (been driving manual over 15 years). I chose the 7AT because it's a great transmission and gives me the best of both worlds. It's not like the old autos were. Technology changed my buying habits so let's see what the future has in store for us.

Gasoline will be available for a long time...

An interesting read: legendary Porsche tuner RUF: Excellence :: Electric Sunshine : Ruf?s Old/New-School 997E Targa

Holy crap! :icon17:

I didn't dismiss it at all.

You are acting like the community will totally fall apart if we get rid of the internal combustion engine. That's simply not true. We'll all still be here... we'll just be looking at different things.

Suspension stuff will be pretty much unchanged, but on the power side we won't be talking FI or bolt ons but we'll be talking tuning, battery packs, etc...

It doesn't ruin the tradition of sports cars or modding sports cars, it just changes it... Yes, it changes it A LOT, but it doesn't mean it will destroy it.

I'm very much an enthusiast. I'm just open-minded. It's kind of ridiculous for you to imply I'm not simply because I don't share the same opinion that EV or alternative fuels are going to destroy the "tradition" of sports cars.

You are very passionate about what you believe... I'll give you that. ;)

If you look at the political environment today domestic oil independence faces HUGE opposition. We can barely even drill offshore let alone tap into our land based oil stores.

There would have to be a huge political shift for us to get to the point where we could be self-sufficient with our own oil.

I'm not saying I'm opposed to it at all. I support it, in fact. I just don't think we can get there given our political climate.

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The high tech bits are up front. ;)

And don't ever question my love for "tradition," Unknown. You don't know a damn thing about me. There's a reason why I love Zs, Corvettes, Mustangs, 911s... "tradition."

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I wish we had a political section
 

In my OPINION(moderators:) It would be nice to have sections where politics & other subjects would be allowed. While I'm at it, we are NOT that fragile(life is tough), & adults shouldn't be, so a little sense of humor & light fun interaction should not be treated as mean spirited. It is just my opinion, so please don't punish me. Then again with very little humor...................

Get out of here with your logic. :p

I will say if we can find unlimited oil and continue on with our traditional engines I'll be all for it. ;)

Well, if we don't do a thing about developing oil, & nuke energy, & electricity is made mostly by burning dirty coal & oil, well.................good luck:)

Wonder if people had the same reaction with steam engines when the gasoline engines came out :icon17:

You'll never have a true performance vehicle that runs on gas! True performance vehicles run on hay and say NEEEEEIIIIGGGGGGHHHHHHHHH!!!!

Horse power in its most purest form. Real enthusiasts get their HP straight from the horses. Wanna mod it to make it faster? Throw on some light weight Nike horse shoes :bowrofl:

The future of cars enlies in us finding a replacement for gasoline that can run in internal combustion engines. making a slow "switch" to electric vehicles will NEVER happen in anyone on here's lifetime.

for instance, my car now runs on baby rabbits and orphan tears

My Z only uses hookers and cocaine, it gets really expensive.