Why is our car so heavy?

m4a1mustang · 11-20-2011, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by theDreamer

Yeah, the Z is a fatty, should write a letter to Nissan.
If they fix it maybe they will retrofit it on the earlier years.

I think people get overly concerned with the weight of these cars. Yeah, it's not as light as a 240Z, but it's not as heavy as a GT-R either. And look at how those things perform!

theDreamer · 11-20-2011, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

I think people get overly concerned with the weight of these cars. Yeah, it's not as light as a 240Z, but it's not as heavy as a GT-R either. And look at how those things perform!

Yep and like power it is all in the balance.

m4a1mustang · 11-20-2011, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by theDreamer

Yep and like power it is all in the balance.

Red__Zed · 11-20-2011, 04:46 PM

In response to the OP, the Z weighs what it weighs because of:
size
quality materials
cool electronic gadgetry
safety equipment

The real answer, though, is: don't worry about it.

The z is pretty freaking light for what it is, 33xx well equipped is nothing to complain about, and the car drives a lot lighter than it is due to well-engineered vehicle dynamics. The Z feels razor sharp on almost any road, and I never really found myself wishing the car was lighter.

You lose more weight and your start losing the high speed stability the Z has (unless you add downforce), and since the car is not exactly hurting for torque, I see no reason to fret about the weight. Sure, it would be slightly faster around a track with a couple hundred less pounds, tenths of a second around a track don't mean much for the way most of us drive...

I think most of the guys that complain about the Z's weight need to spend more time driving and less time playing Forza. The Z's dynamic is sick, about as good of an experience as you can ask for...and isn't that why we love our cars?

Trips · 11-20-2011, 04:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red__Zed

In response to the OP, the Z weighs what it weighs because of:
size
quality materials
cool electronic gadgetry
safety equipment

The real answer, though, is: don't worry about it.

The z is pretty freaking light for what it is, 33xx well equipped is nothing to complain about, and the car drives a lot lighter than it is due to well-engineered vehicle dynamics. The Z feels razor sharp on almost any road, and I never really found myself wishing the car was lighter.

You lose more weight and your start losing the high speed stability the Z has (unless you add downforce), and since the car is not exactly hurting for torque, I see no reason to fret about the weight. Sure, it would be slightly faster around a track with a couple hundred less pounds, tenths of a second around a track don't mean much for the way most of us drive...

I think most of the guys that complain about the Z's weight need to spend more time driving and less time playing Forza. The Z's dynamic is sick, about as good of an experience as you can ask for...and isn't that why we love our cars?

b1adesofcha0s · 11-20-2011, 02:11 PM

A lighter weight GT-R would be pretty amazing. Same with the Z, if they are done right.

DarkZide · 11-20-2011, 02:20 PM

Adding all the bose junk, navigation, power seat motors, etc is gonna drive it up. But the curb weights given by manufactuers are accurate enough for comparisons between models.

3512-3230 = 282 of which the poster probably weights at least 175.

KillerBee370 · 11-20-2011, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by DarkZide

Adding all the bose junk, navigation, power seat motors, etc is gonna drive it up. But the curb weights given by manufactuers are accurate enough for comparisons between models.

3512-3230 = 282 of which the poster probably weights at least 175.

I weigh in at 220. So that leaves 62 lbs of stuff that came out of the car's rear. I can't see the spare, bose sub, jack equipment etc. weighing that much but who knows... maybe?

Red__Zed · 11-20-2011, 02:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarkZide

Adding all the bose junk, navigation, power seat motors, etc is gonna drive it up. But the curb weights given by manufactuers are accurate enough for comparisons between models.

3512-3230 = 282 of which the poster probably weights at least 175.

08 evo x (gsr, mr will be heavier)

empty trunk, full tank, no rear

z with 3/4 tank (which can't be used, of course)

I'd say this is pretty close, but that is just me.

Of course, the MR will be heavier, but that's a lot closer than most people make it out to be.

Actual weight aside, the Z drives much lighter due to better weight balance and steering feel. Never been a fan of the way the EVO drives at all...

frost · 11-20-2011, 02:21 PM

Mail your congressman and tell him to stop supporting car safety laws.

Trips · 11-20-2011, 02:23 PM

Z32 TT 3,500 pounds

DarkZide · 11-20-2011, 04:12 PM

Glad there is nothing on those sheets to actually substantiate that.

You can damn well bet if the Evo actually weighed what a 370 does that Mitsubishi wouldn't be reporting it as 300lbs heavier.

m4a1mustang · 11-20-2011, 04:24 PM

We need to find every car and get to some scales. Apparently there can be a pretty big difference between manufacturer claim for curb weight and actual curb weight. And the difference can go either way.

Red__Zed · 11-20-2011, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by DarkZide

Glad there is nothing on those sheets to actually substantiate that.

You can damn well bet if the Evo actually weighed what a 370 does that Mitsubishi wouldn't be reporting it as 300lbs heavier.

Sounds like you aren't very familiar with the EVO trim levels. The GSR weighs a lot less than that 3500lb figure you keep tossing out...
Evo X curb weight: 1,420–1,600 kg (3,131–3,527 lb)
Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Not sure what you mean by there is nothing to substantiate that...those are independently posted weights on cars....

DarkZide · 11-20-2011, 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed

Sounds like you aren't very familiar with the EVO trim levels. The GSR weighs a lot less than that 3500lb figure you keep tossing out...
Evo X curb weight: 1,420–1,600 kg (3,131–3,527 lb)
Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Not sure what you mean by there is nothing to substantiate that...those are independently posted weights on cars....

Sounds like you are full of crap. Thats weight from all countries. The american GSR is 3517 and the MR is 3572. You are wrong and making stuff up, as usual.

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11-20-2011, 04:46 PM	#4 (permalink)
Red__Zed A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: window seat Posts: 28,940 Drives: Mostly on two wheels Rep Power: 121	In response to the OP, the Z weighs what it weighs because of: size quality materials cool electronic gadgetry safety equipment The real answer, though, is: don't worry about it. The z is pretty freaking light for what it is, 33xx well equipped is nothing to complain about, and the car drives a lot lighter than it is due to well-engineered vehicle dynamics. The Z feels razor sharp on almost any road, and I never really found myself wishing the car was lighter. You lose more weight and your start losing the high speed stability the Z has (unless you add downforce), and since the car is not exactly hurting for torque, I see no reason to fret about the weight. Sure, it would be slightly faster around a track with a couple hundred less pounds, tenths of a second around a track don't mean much for the way most of us drive... I think most of the guys that complain about the Z's weight need to spend more time driving and less time playing Forza. The Z's dynamic is sick, about as good of an experience as you can ask for...and isn't that why we love our cars?

11-20-2011, 02:20 PM	#7 (permalink)
DarkZide Enthusiast Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: TN Posts: 291 Drives: 2010 370z BC M6 Rep Power: 16	Adding all the bose junk, navigation, power seat motors, etc is gonna drive it up. But the curb weights given by manufactuers are accurate enough for comparisons between models. 3512-3230 = 282 of which the poster probably weights at least 175.

11-20-2011, 04:12 PM	#12 (permalink)
DarkZide Enthusiast Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: TN Posts: 291 Drives: 2010 370z BC M6 Rep Power: 16	Glad there is nothing on those sheets to actually substantiate that. You can damn well bet if the Evo actually weighed what a 370 does that Mitsubishi wouldn't be reporting it as 300lbs heavier.