Another 370z Gone

11Thumper · 11-03-2011, 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Calebluna

The Driver of this 370z is a close family friend of mine and he was being chased by a guy in a silverado and was ramming him trying to make him wreck he was going over 110 trying to lose him when the truck hit him from the side (P.I.T maneuver) and spun off the road and flipped into multiple trees and signs.
He is in ICU with a broken back and neck and multiple other injuries do to being launched out of the car at 100 something mph... The doctor says he has a 17% chance at living and if he does he will be completely paralyzed...

Sorry to hear about your friend. These things can be avoided but it's always 20/20 looking back at the past. A 17% chance of living isn't much but he did survive the wreck so let's hope he pulls through.

From what you've said I'm going to assume the driver of the Silverado has been arrested and charged with the crime. Correct?

RiCharlie · 11-04-2011, 08:33 AM

Ought to give that truck driver life in prison ..or at least twenty years! With no chance of parole..crazy nut..

semtex · 11-04-2011, 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Calebluna

it all started cause the girl he was with said she was single and then her not so single boyfriend saw them at a club it escaladed to this...

This is just so f*cked up. So much destruction over something so . . . typical.

Red__Zed · 11-04-2011, 08:57 AM

Here's to hoping the cops get to the truth and those in the wrong get the proper punishment.

007MI6 · 11-04-2011, 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed

Here's to hoping the cops get to the truth and those in the wrong get the proper punishment.

Trips · 11-04-2011, 01:58 PM

My prayers for the driver sad very sad

Cmike2780 · 11-04-2011, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by gurneyeagle

Sorry, if he had killed someone in my family here, I'd have pulled the plug on him already. Wonder what his blood alcohol level was?

Dude, that's f*cked. Drunk driving is inexcusable, but it's not like we really know what happened. It sounds like you went through a lot of sh*t in the past, but this situtation has nothing to do with that. They weren't racing, the guy it seems was trying to get a away, totally different scenario. That's like saying rape is just playing hard to get, it's absurd. What happened here hasn't been excused by society in any way and it seems like the guy driving the Z has already payed the price...if not more. You can be as much of a hard-*** or cold blooded as you want, but I think many here would rather give our sympathy to his friends and family, rather than say "pull the plug on him." No one here is perfect, least of all myself, and I'm pretty sure neither are you. It's easy to preach in hindsight.

Mandingo · 11-04-2011, 02:39 PM

Good god. What an awful story

Cmike2780 · 11-04-2011, 02:40 PM

From the other thread

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Originally Posted by W.O.W. 370Z

Maybe its this member?

sean370z Nissan 370Z Forum - View Profile: sean370z

Here's the dude in the truck:
http://www.mugshots.com/US-Counties/...e-Terrell.html

2011 Nismo#91 · 11-04-2011, 02:48 PM

First I pray that they all make it out of this horrible situation well.

Now

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Originally Posted by gurneyeagle

Totally reckless behavior that nothing I've read excuses. Let's see here:

- out at 5:30 am picking-up bar bimbos? check
- get yourself involved in a domestic dispute picking-up a bar bimbo? check
- find yourself being chased by an irate boyfriend for picking-up a bar bimbo? check
- decide to try and outrun some maniacal irate boyfriend of a bar bimbo at speeds over 100 mph on a public street? check
.

Yep lets just assume he was a mass murder too since we are just making up our own facts. I assume your a saint to be able to pass judgement down on others so easily. And I admire your ability to see into the future and avoid conflicts before they happen. Unfortunately we are not all the second coming of Christ like you. When your scared for your life you don't think every action through.

PS good job stereotyping women your cool.

11Thumper · 11-04-2011, 02:56 PM

None of us know the full story, I accept that. If this was truly a one-sided attack against the Z driver that's very unfortunate.

Do we all have the right to protect ourselves? Absolutely yes!

However, there are ways to calm a dispute like this at the onset. If he really didn't know she had a boyfriend then he should have told her to not get in his car. Her boyfriend saw them at a club right? It's likely the confrontation started there. Why not break the chain of events at that moment. Isn't a club a public place to start with? When I grew up people didn't talk out their mouth and whimper with their tail between their legs when a physical confrontation started as a result. Getting your *** kicked is better than hitting a tree at 100mph. Best be prepared to back up your comments if it gets to that level.

The way people deal with anger is really weird these days. Lot's of tough guys on the car forums (keyboard world class fighters

) and road rage with a 2,000lb+ car. Seriously? Ramming some dude in a 370Z just because your gf is in the car? Why would you give a fvck about her anymore at that point? Lots of ladies out there and it just means you get to have fun with a new one! I have said it all along that 'I don't wish a poor outcome for the Z driver'. That is how I still feel about it. However, he's the one that drove his car up to 100mph on public roads. So what's the plan in that case? Keep driving at 100mph to see who runs out of gas first? Sure, it's hard to think clearly in the moment so I understand that part of it. If this is really the true story and this guy's car kept getting rammed while driving, the truck driver MUST be in jail at this point. If his mental state was really like that why did he stop at the accident scene? Why would he not just drive away if he's in such a crazy mental state? It doesn't make sense that he switched to a rational state of mind so quickly.

Looking back is always 20/20 and we're all judging this from a computer screen. What do we know? Absolutely nothing!

People need to stop this "it's never my fault" stuff. Accept responsibility for your actions. If you're being chased by a guy in a truck and you speed to 100mph it means you don't care about anyone except yourself. If he hit a bus full of children would it be the same? Would you still think it was ok for him to drive like that? What if the passenger was your sister? What would I have done? Given the limited amount of info I would have ended this at the club. However, I don't know enough to determine if that was even an option.

I hope the driver recovers and doesn't pay for this with his life. I hope he learns from the mistake and becomes a better person as a result. We all do stupid things and it doesn't stop when we hit 25, or 30, or 35 years of age.

Trips · 11-04-2011, 03:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Calebluna

The Driver of this 370z is a close family friend of mine and he was being chased by a guy in a silverado and was ramming him trying to make him wreck he was going over 110 trying to lose him when the truck hit him from the side (P.I.T maneuver) and spun off the road and flipped into multiple trees and signs.
He is in ICU with a broken back and neck and multiple other injuries do to being launched out of the car at 100 something mph... The doctor says he has a 17% chance at living and if he does he will be completely paralyzed...

Please keep us posted

This was a serious crash and if it can't be discussed without making wild accusations or slamming a fellow member? It's simply getting locked

Cmike2780 · 11-04-2011, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by 11Thumper

None of us know the full story, I accept that. If this was truly a one-sided attack against the Z driver that's very unfortunate.

Do we all have the right to protect ourselves? Absolutely yes!

However, there are ways to calm a dispute like this at the onset. If he really didn't know she had a boyfriend then he should have told her to not get in his car. Her boyfriend saw them at a club right? It's likely the confrontation started there. Why not break the chain of events at that moment. Isn't a club a public place to start with? When I grew up people didn't talk out their mouth and whimper with their tail between their legs when a physical confrontation started as a result. Getting your *** kicked is better than hitting a tree at 100mph. Best be prepared to back up your comments if it gets to that level.

The way people deal with anger is really weird these days. Lot's of tough guys on the car forums (keyboard world class fighters

) and road rage with a 2,000lb+ car. Seriously? Ramming some dude in a 370Z just because your gf is in the car? Why would you give a fvck about her anymore at that point? Lots of ladies out there and it just means you get to have fun with a new one! I have said it all along that 'I don't wish a poor outcome for the Z driver'. That is how I still feel about it. However, he's the one that drove his car up to 100mph on public roads. So what's the plan in that case? Keep driving at 100mph to see who runs out of gas first? Sure, it's hard to think clearly in the moment so I understand that part of it. If this is really the true story and this guy's car kept getting rammed while driving, the truck driver MUST be in jail at this point. If his mental state was really like that why did he stop at the accident scene? Why would he not just drive away if he's in such a crazy mental state? It doesn't make sense that he switched to a rational state of mind so quickly.

Looking back is always 20/20 and we're all judging this from a computer screen. What do we know? Absolutely nothing!

People need to stop this "it's never my fault" stuff. Accept responsibility for your actions. If you're being chased by a guy in a truck and you speed to 100mph it means you don't care about anyone except yourself. If he hit a bus full of children would it be the same? Would you still think it was ok for him to drive like that? What if the passenger was your sister? What would I have done? Given the limited amount of info I would have ended this at the club. However, I don't know enough to determine if that was even an option.

I hope the driver recovers and doesn't pay for this with his life. I hope he learns from the mistake and becomes a better person as a result. We all do stupid things and it doesn't stop when we hit 25, or 30, or 35 years of age.

It could have ended at the club, heck he should have stayed in that night, but like you said, hindsight is 20/20. It's one thing to hear about it and another to be in this guys' shoes. There was no way for him to know it would escalate into what happened, but I do agree, he must have had plenty of chances to stop it from getting worst. Sometimes though, you don't have time to stop and think nor the ability to do so. Sometimes, you just react, and its not always the right way.

TypeOne · 11-04-2011, 03:20 PM

I wonder if VDC was on.

cossie1600 · 11-04-2011, 03:21 PM

z cant run away from a silverado? i think some of you are giving the z guy the benefit of the doubt....

11-04-2011, 01:58 PM	#51 (permalink)
Trips Administrator Join Date: May 2009 Location: Disneyland, Ca Posts: 8,728 Drives: 🔰 Rep Power: 10	My prayers for the driver sad very sad __________________

11-04-2011, 02:39 PM	#53 (permalink)
Mandingo Track Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Dallas Posts: 625 Drives: '10 370z 6spd Rep Power: 3370	Good god. What an awful story __________________ some mods

11-04-2011, 02:56 PM	#56 (permalink)
11Thumper Track Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Bay Area, CA Posts: 754 Drives: '11 370Z, '01 S2k Rep Power: 17	None of us know the full story, I accept that. If this was truly a one-sided attack against the Z driver that's very unfortunate. Do we all have the right to protect ourselves? Absolutely yes! However, there are ways to calm a dispute like this at the onset. If he really didn't know she had a boyfriend then he should have told her to not get in his car. Her boyfriend saw them at a club right? It's likely the confrontation started there. Why not break the chain of events at that moment. Isn't a club a public place to start with? When I grew up people didn't talk out their mouth and whimper with their tail between their legs when a physical confrontation started as a result. Getting your * kicked is better than hitting a tree at 100mph. Best be prepared to back up your comments if it gets to that level. The way people deal with anger is really weird these days. Lot's of tough guys on the car forums (keyboard world class fighters ) and road rage with a 2,000lb+ car. Seriously? Ramming some dude in a 370Z just because your gf is in the car? Why would you give a fvck about her anymore at that point? Lots of ladies out there and it just means you get to have fun with a new one! I have said it all along that 'I don't wish a poor outcome for the Z driver'. That is how I still feel about it. However, he's the one that drove his car up to 100mph on public roads. So what's the plan in that case? Keep driving at 100mph to see who runs out of gas first? Sure, it's hard to think clearly in the moment so I understand that part of it. If this is really the true story and this guy's car kept getting rammed while driving, the truck driver MUST be in jail at this point. If his mental state was really like that why did he stop at the accident scene? Why would he not just drive away if he's in such a crazy mental state? It doesn't make sense that he switched to a rational state of mind so quickly. Looking back is always 20/20 and we're all judging this from a computer screen. What do we know? Absolutely nothing! People need to stop this "it's never my fault" stuff. Accept responsibility for your actions. If you're being chased by a guy in a truck and you speed to 100mph it means you don't care about anyone except yourself. If he hit a bus full of children would it be the same? Would you still think it was ok for him to drive like that? What if the passenger was your sister? What would I have done? Given the limited** amount of info I would have ended this at the club. However, I don't know enough to determine if that was even an option. I hope the driver recovers and doesn't pay for this with his life. I hope he learns from the mistake and becomes a better person as a result. We all do stupid things and it doesn't stop when we hit 25, or 30, or 35 years of age. Last edited by 11Thumper; 11-04-2011 at 02:59 PM.

11-04-2011, 08:33 AM	#47 (permalink)
RiCharlie Track Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Johnston RI Posts: 857 Drives: 370 Touring Spt A/t Rep Power: 15	Ought to give that truck driver life in prison ..or at least twenty years! With no chance of parole..crazy nut..

11-04-2011, 08:57 AM	#49 (permalink)
Red__Zed A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: window seat Posts: 28,940 Drives: Mostly on two wheels Rep Power: 119	Here's to hoping the cops get to the truth and those in the wrong get the proper punishment.

11-04-2011, 03:20 PM	#59 (permalink)
TypeOne A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Baton Rouge, LA Posts: 2,682 Drives: BSM 370 Rep Power: 1850	I wonder if VDC was on.

11-04-2011, 03:21 PM	#60 (permalink)
cossie1600 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: californee way Posts: 5,380 Drives: 370, Leaf Rep Power: 29	z cant run away from a silverado? i think some of you are giving the z guy the benefit of the doubt....