2012s on lots....where are the oil coolers?

Red__Zed

too many variables there. though that data would be useful for understanding how fast it heated up.

Red__Zed

mags won't be hitting limp mode in their testing, that's almost guaranteed.

when you are heating the coolant at both ends, you run into issues. trust me. i've run into this issue before. the tipping point on the last car I ran with this setup was about 270.

Pharmacist

What about track rats? Would it be possible to do a 20-30 min hard lapping session without overheating the oil using this OEM cooler? If not, then we're back where we started 3 years ago, and the Z would still require an aftermarket oil cooler to be track worthy.

And what do you mean by heating the coolant "at both ends"? Is the oil cooler supplied by coolant flowing from the radiator to the engine or the engine to the radiator? Why would it cause a problem anyway? Look at the size of the hose going into that cooler. It's much smaller than the radiator hose. That means only a very small volume of coolant is flowing into that oil cooler. It doesn't seem likely to significantly affect the cooling system that much.

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Red__Zed

or about 130C...or about 400K...whichever is to your liking.

Red__Zed

it remains to be seen how flow is set up. I guess we will find out.

b1adesofcha0s

Anyone who is doing serious tracking will want a better oil cooling system anyway. That would be like trying to do serious tracking on the stock brake pads.

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Pharmacist

That's kinda my point actually. That this oil cooler may just be a mere PR stunt to appease the magazine critics. The Z really doesn't have an oil temp problem on the road. Just on the track, most of the time at least. So if the oil cooler doesn't solve the overheating during prolonged track driving and the owner still has to get an aftermarket kit anyway, then what's the point of this cooler?

Funny that you mentioned brake pads since they too have a similar problem. Stock pads are more than good enough on the street but caused lots of problems on the track, including car and driver crashing a nismo. So in response nissan developed nismo pads that supposedly were better able to handle heat and brake fade. Only it turned out that these overpriced pads were a marginal improvement over the oem pad at best, and owners still had to get aftermarket pads for the track anyway.

But I agree with red zed however. Lets not put the cart before the horse. Lets wait until someone gets one of these 2012 cars and actually flogs them on a track. Who knows? Maybe that tiny oil to water cooler will actually perform admirably and i'll be forced to eat my words.

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Red__Zed

also, pharmacist, remember we could now swap the radiator instead of adding an air cooled system and probably get more from the car...

at this point, no real purpose in borrowing trouble from the future. I'm sure someone will find out where the limits are, and we can cross that bridge when we get there.

KaienZ34

Of course you know this means war!!

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Can I haz some soda with that popcorn?

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KaienZ34

You want grape or what?

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b1adesofcha0s

Nah get me a Pepsi.

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Red__Zed

Red__Zed

^check your usercp

chuckd05

350z's had basically the same oil cooler in them, and they decided to not give it to the 370z.

Very odd because Nissan had to know the oil temps got hotter than they should while developing the car.

350z's also didnt have an oil temperature gauge to my knowledge...

So its like Nissan said .... lets spend the money on an oil temperature gauge (so people can not let there oil get too hot), but we'll do that with the money we saved from removing the $30 oil cooler....

not sure why the vq37 runs oil hotter than the 35de or 35hr other than the lack of that oc they now added...

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