2012 Model Will Have OIl Cooler

b1adesofcha0s · 10-12-2011, 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed

Just got off the phone with Nissan North America, got some interesting info...kinda making me regret trading my car in.

-Base model Z's will ship with an oil-to-water cooler, as previously speculated (can't remember who said that?)

-sport package models will be available with 19 row coolers standard, and a 34 row updgrade available. No pricing is confirmed yet, but they mentioned the upgrade should be under $500. Sport package cost will most likely be raised as well, though it is not known for sure yet that it will be

-Increased sound deadening material. They won't advertise it substantially, but they attempted to quiet down the road noise just a little bit

-adjusted intake resonator-- apparently designed to help quiet the NVH concerns

-Nismo finned diff cover will be standard--apparently the bean-counters finally understood the risks of an overheating diff, and are at least making the appearance of an effort to fix things

-Brake ducting will be available through the fangs as an add-on kit. It was apparently supposed to offered from the beginning, but a clean-looking kit was never fully finished. The genteman I spoke with was 99% sure it would be backwards-compatible.

-retrofit oil-to-water coolers will be available with full warranty protection. The oil-to-air coolers WILL NOT be available under warranty

-most importantly, your mother has grown frightful after your recent engagement at the schoolyard, and the cab is on it's way to pick you up for the trip to Bel Air.

phelan · 10-12-2011, 04:44 PM

do i get to drink orange juice out of a champagne glass?

NYBladeZ · 10-12-2011, 04:44 PM

hmm the option costs the same as what many of us paid to get our own coolers. At least this way the magazine editors testing future models will stop complaining.

Red__Zed · 10-12-2011, 04:55 PM

It is good they are doing something fresh
The principal issue has really been due to bell-shape front end, which cuts airflow to the brakes.

b1adesofcha0s · 10-12-2011, 04:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red__Zed

It is good they are doing something fresh
The principal issue has really been due to bell-shape front end, which cuts airflow to the brakes.

It looks so sexy though

maro · 10-12-2011, 05:09 PM

is oil to water cooler better than just normal oil cooler? or r they the same thing??!!

Red__Zed · 10-12-2011, 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by maro

is oil to water cooler better than just normal oil cooler? or r they the same thing??!!

Oil to water is usually implemented as a u-channel by the filter, where they cool the oil using the radiator water. The s2000 used this setup.

Streetlife · 10-12-2011, 05:28 PM

Good news indeed!

Pharmacist · 10-12-2011, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed

Oil to water is usually implemented as a u-channel by the filter, where they cool the oil using the radiator water. The s2000 used this setup.

I woud imagine a direct to air cooler would be better since it dumps the heat straight into the atmosphere as opposed to overloading the cooling system. Besides, you can get a larger surface area via a direct to air cooler as opposed to using the radiator's already existing area to vent more heat. Not to mention that cooling will be quicker due to greater temp differential between oil and air than between oil and radiator coolant.

FL 4Motion · 10-12-2011, 05:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red__Zed

Just got off the phone with Nissan North America, got some interesting info...kinda making me regret trading my car in.

-Base model Z's will ship with an oil-to-water cooler, as previously speculated (can't remember who said that?)

-sport package models will be available with 19 row coolers standard, and a 34 row updgrade available. No pricing is confirmed yet, but they mentioned the upgrade should be under $500. Sport package cost will most likely be raised as well, though it is not known for sure yet that it will be

-Increased sound deadening material. They won't advertise it substantially, but they attempted to quiet down the road noise just a little bit

-adjusted intake resonator-- apparently designed to help quiet the NVH concerns

-Nismo finned diff cover will be standard--apparently the bean-counters finally understood the risks of an overheating diff, and are at least making the appearance of an effort to fix things

-Brake ducting will be available through the fangs as an add-on kit. It was apparently supposed to offered from the beginning, but a clean-looking kit was never fully finished. The genteman I spoke with was 99% sure it would be backwards-compatible.

-retrofit oil-to-water coolers will be available with full warranty protection. The oil-to-air coolers WILL NOT be available under warranty

-most importantly, your mother has grown frightful after your recent engagement at the schoolyard, and the cab is on it's way to pick you up for the trip to Bel Air.

I was with you up to the Nismo diff cover and then was like

Red__Zed · 10-12-2011, 05:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pharmacist

I woud imagine a direct to air cooler would be better since it dumps the heat straight into the atmosphere as opposed to overloading the cooling system. Besides, you can get a larger surface area via a direct to air cooler as opposed to using the radiator's already existing area to vent more heat. Not to mention that cooling will be quicker due to greater temp differential between oil and air than between oil and radiator coolant.

There are benefit to both.

KaienZ34 · 10-12-2011, 06:45 PM

Damn that is what 15k threads all on the same info. Can everyone please do a search before starting more and more and more and more and more of the same BS threads I mean WHAT THE FVCK!¡

ImportConvert · 10-12-2011, 07:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pharmacist

I woud imagine a direct to air cooler would be better since it dumps the heat straight into the atmosphere as opposed to overloading the cooling system. Besides, you can get a larger surface area via a direct to air cooler as opposed to using the radiator's already existing area to vent more heat. Not to mention that cooling will be quicker due to greater temp differential between oil and air than between oil and radiator coolant.

The flip side is that cruising on the highway on a 30* morning will have your oil running way too cool. Very glad to see it's oil/water. Z06, ZR1, S2000, they all use/used it. It's good stuff. Creates a lot more stable environment re: oil temps.

KaienZ34 · 10-12-2011, 09:03 PM

Not really I have no problems with mine I just let it run/warm up for a few mins and little longer in the winter. The thermostatic plate doesn't ever close all the way and fully opens at 180 degrees.

ImportConvert · 10-12-2011, 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by KaienZ34

Not really I have no problems with mine I just let it run/warm up for a few mins and little longer in the winter. The thermostatic plate doesn't ever close all the way and fully opens at 180 degrees.

Why have no manufacturers uses a thermostatic plate, though? I suspect that there is a liability associated with it since they have almost universally refused to use one.

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Red__Zed A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: window seat Posts: 28,940 Drives: Mostly on two wheels Rep Power: 119	It is good they are doing something fresh The principal issue has really been due to bell-shape front end, which cuts airflow to the brakes. Last edited by Red__Zed; 10-12-2011 at 05:04 PM.

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KaienZ34 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: LA. not L.a. Posts: 21,652 Drives: Z34 Tour/Sport Rep Power: 177	Damn that is what 15k threads all on the same info. Can everyone please do a search before starting more and more and more and more and more of the same BS threads I mean WHAT THE FVCK!¡ __________________ *"These Violent Delights Have Violent Ends"* http://www.the370z.com/members/kaienz34-albums-z34.html

10-12-2011, 09:03 PM	#134 (permalink)
KaienZ34 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: LA. not L.a. Posts: 21,652 Drives: Z34 Tour/Sport Rep Power: 177	Not really I have no problems with mine I just let it run/warm up for a few mins and little longer in the winter. The thermostatic plate doesn't ever close all the way and fully opens at 180 degrees. __________________ *"These Violent Delights Have Violent Ends"* http://www.the370z.com/members/kaienz34-albums-z34.html

10-12-2011, 05:09 PM	#126 (permalink)
maro Enthusiast Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Az Posts: 414 Drives: PW Maro Z Rep Power: 15	is oil to water cooler better than just normal oil cooler? or r they the same thing??!!

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Streetlife Enthusiast Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 466 Drives: 2012 370z Mont/sport Rep Power: 15	Good news indeed!

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